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post #991 of 1205
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post
 

 

The only caveat being that I can only find/source "mustang paste" from one retailer and it's $60 a bottle ... 

 

Fuck.

 

;-) 

 

There are cheaper options on Ebay ... they market themselves under the term, "Horse Oil" ... 

 

I have no idea if these are legitimate or not ... 

 

FYI...

 

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joel

post #992 of 1205
Tempted by a pair of Engineer boots (2991). Anyone know how they fit compared to Iron Rangers or Moc Toes?
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Tempted by a pair of Engineer boots (2991). Anyone know how they fit compared to Iron Rangers or Moc Toes?

 

Man those are pretty...

 

I can't comment on the fit, though.  The only Red Wing's I've owned are the "Lineman/Pole climbers" ... the Iron Rangers and also many of their generic "Worx" brand ... all fit large to me ... with the "Worx" brand boots fitting most to my typical size ... 

post #994 of 1205
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Originally Posted by ManofKent View Post

Tempted by a pair of Engineer boots (2991). Anyone know how they fit compared to Iron Rangers or Moc Toes?

 I have the 2970, same last as the 2991. I'd say the fit is more similar to the 23 last(the moc toe) than the 8 last(rangers). 

 

I wear an US 8 in all 3 styles. I find the 8 last to be a little long, the 23 last to be a little shorter than the 8 last, but a tad wider/more voluminous, and the 522 last(engineers), to be very similar in volume and length of the 23 last. 

 

Hope that helps

post #995 of 1205
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Originally Posted by EPrest90 View Post

 I have the 2970, same last as the 2991. I'd say the fit is more similar to the 23 last(the moc toe) than the 8 last(rangers). 

I wear an US 8 in all 3 styles. I find the 8 last to be a little long, the 23 last to be a little shorter than the 8 last, but a tad wider/more voluminous, and the 522 last(engineers), to be very similar in volume and length of the 23 last. 

Hope that helps

Thanks much appreciated - any link to which models use which last - the Red Wing site is a bit vague?

Annoyingly the 2991's seem to jump from a UK 11 (US12) to a UK 12 (US13) with no half size. My 213's have stretched enough to be okay in a UK 11, but the 8173's are a tad too narrow and short to be really comfortable. IR's are fine length-wise in a UK 11, but again are a tad too narrow in the forefoot (wearable with thin socks after having them stretched).
post #996 of 1205
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Originally Posted by ManofKent View Post


Thanks much appreciated - any link to which models use which last - the Red Wing site is a bit vague?

Annoyingly the 2991's seem to jump from a UK 11 (US12) to a UK 12 (US13) with no half size. My 213's have stretched enough to be okay in a UK 11, but the 8173's are a tad too narrow and short to be really comfortable. IR's are fine length-wise in a UK 11, but again are a tad too narrow in the forefoot (wearable with thin socks after having them stretched).

They're kinda hidden. On their website, look under the "materials" tab on a model and it lists the last.

post #997 of 1205
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They're kinda hidden. On their website, look under the "materials" tab on a model and it lists the last.

Thanks - found it by going through the international sites. Annoyingly last information isn't on the eu site, and not all models are shown on the US site...
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Thanks for posting that idea about using the international sites.  I hadn't looked on those before and it got me thinking about different styles.  So I searched and found the international sites for USA/Canada (I've seen that 100 times), Europe, Asia, et cetera.  WOW.  There are some very different and interesting styles in some of the other international markets.  For example, there is a Redwing wingtip iron ranger that looks almost identical to the wingtip 1000 mile boot (Addison boot) from Wolverine.  There are quite a few other interesting styles too. 

post #999 of 1205

Here's a great thread a guy did showing the difference 4 different leather treatment products have on strips of raw leather over a years period with monthly re applications and also, being left out in the elements regularly... super cool.  He shows four different strips all presented together so one can assess the level to which any given treatment will discolor the leather being treated (Obenauf's Boot Oil, Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP, Mustang Paste and Olive oil) ... the olive oil option shows up some months in to the comparison and otherwise isn't a good treatment options as it will give off a "rotten" scent eventually...

 

Here's a link:  Leather Treatment Effects Over Time

 

From the looks of it, after about a year of treatments and being left outside a great deal ... the Mustang Paste seems to have discolored the raw leather the least of any of the four ... appearing visually almost the same as the untreated, raw leather.

 

Here's a shot at day one (just minutes after first application):

 

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And here's what things look like after 8 months (monthly re applications and being left outdoors often):

 

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I'm going to stick with the oils that discolor the least as I like the original colors of my IR's ... especially the "cactus" brown ones ... so I've ordered a couple cans of Mustang Paste (also can be found under the name "Horse Oil Paste) ... generally coming out of Japan ...

 

Anyway ... cool thread that guy made ... 

 

Just an FYI for anybody thinking about committing to a conditioning/treatment regimen  ...

 

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Awesome info man!   Thanks for posting.  I have been using mainly Leather Protectant after one coat of RW leather conditioning cream on my copper rough and tough IRs.  I've used two coats of conditioning cream and leather protectant on my black brogue rangers, but since it's black doesn't really matter (sort of moot).  The LP looks OK, but I'm going to look into Mustang Oil too. 

post #1001 of 1205
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post


Here's a link:  Leather Treatment Effects Over Time



Just an FYI for anybody thinking about committing to a conditioning/treatment regimen  ...

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Thanks for this - I've been using LP on my IR's and Moc-Toes and I'll probably stick with it. Not a lot to choose between the Mustang and LP from this test (to my eyes).
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Thanks for posting.

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Red Wing for Brooks Brothers Iron Rangers came in this morning ... really digging the distressed look and color of the leather ... lug soles might not be for everyone but I think they look rad ...

 

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Another thing interesting is that they have standard "eyelets" all the way to the top as opposed to the last two being the "quick lace" variety of the typical Iron Rangers...

 

Think they will look even better with some wearing and oil ...

 

:cheers: 


Edited by s1rrah - 1/21/16 at 10:13am
post #1004 of 1205
Looks like the copper rough and tough leather which I have and LOVE. Nice boots man. I like the lug soles.

I have both options with the quick lace hooks on my IR CR&T and eyelets all the way up on my brogue rangers. The quick lace hooks are nice when putting on and taking off, but I don't mind too much lacing up two eyelets per side on m brogue rangers. The one nice thing about eyelets for me is it seems my brogue rangers with all eyelets doesn't loosen over time as I wear them throughout the day. I little bit, but I can wear the boot all day without a tighten and re-tie. On my IR CR&T, they loosen more for some reason over the course of a day and I usually have to tighten and re-tie. I could technically not do it, but they get very loose. This commonly happens on another set of work boots I have that has the quick lace hooks as well. So I just have assumed the way I wear boots tends to loosen the laces somewhat whenever I'm using a boot with quick lace hooks. For this reason I think I like the all eyelets a tad more.
Edited by Captain Insano - 1/21/16 at 7:02pm
post #1005 of 1205

new guy here.  first post on this forum.  i have always had red wing boots and bought them like 25 years ago here in toronto at the red wing store on kennedy road.  i got the 879 and a logger boot, both were the insulated version.  i also got a pair of some steel toe boots by red wing.  i don't know the model number but this one is insulated too and it's made out of that material that those timberland boots uses.  the yellowish new buck leather i think.  oh yeah, i also had a pair of those red wings with the super soles and the poron insole. 

 

i recently bought the iron rangers 8119 and the 8113.  the first just because it had the lug sole and the second one because it's freaking gorgeous after a lot of wear.  i love the speed hooks on the iron rangers.  i don't have the time to poke the laces through three pairs of holes when i am in a hurry lacing up some boots.  i also love the low profile of the iron rangers.  they are not really that bulky like the moc toe boots that are out there.

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