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post #1156 of 1197

Were they drop shipped direct from Red Wing?  That could make the mix-up more understandable...

post #1157 of 1197
They were shipped from Brooks Brothers. My guess is there was a mix up at Red Wing and nobody at Brooks Brothers ever looked in the box.
post #1158 of 1197
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Originally Posted by JamesT View Post

So it got a little strange. Turns out I should have looked at the tongue. The pair I received was the J Crew exclusive 4511 (interesting how those shipped out from Brooks Brothers). They are shipped a correct pair to me tomorrow so I guess that's solved that mystery.

 

Wow! You mean these?

 

That's trippy indeed ...

 

Cool looking boots, though ... but totally different leather than the Brooks Bros ... that J Crew boot is almost a "finished" or even "patent" leather ... the Brooks Bros are *completely* different being an "oiled" leather ... 

 

Post some pics once you get the right pair ...

post #1159 of 1197

Hi everyone,

 

Just after some sizing advice. I'm looking to buy a pair of Amber Harness.

First, there is no retailer in my country so i can't try the boots, i have to go blind. Second, since i will buy them online overseas there is no option for me to buy 2 pairs, 2 widths, return, refund, and so on...is not worth it, i have one shot.

I don't have wide feet, or very narrow feet, or flat feet, i have average feet. I don't intend to put insoles in the boots, or wear thick wool socks, i want to wear them with athletic socks or medium cotton socks.

My current (US) shoe sizes are:

11 in all my running shoes(new ballance, nike, asics)

11 in all my skate shoes(vans, fallen, globe, etnies)

10.5D in Frye rogan engineer boots

The store from where i intend to buy doesn't have the Amber Harness in EE, only D. So based on what i have read here my options are 10D or 10.5D. I can only buy one. What do you recommend?

 

Thanks!

post #1160 of 1197
I am a true 9D on Brannock Device and based on what you are looking at, no insoles or thick socks, 8D should fit like a glove. They are pretty narrow though as compared to other work boots but if you are of a normal width, you should be fine.
post #1161 of 1197
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Originally Posted by Johnny5 View Post

I am a true 9D on Brannock Device and based on what you are looking at, no insoles or thick socks, 8D should fit like a glove. They are pretty narrow though as compared to other work boots but if you are of a normal width, you should be fine.

 

So one size down. Thanks Johnny5!

 

All recommendations will be appreciated!

post #1162 of 1197
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Originally Posted by ricochet View Post
 

Hi everyone,

 

Just after some sizing advice. I'm looking to buy a pair of Amber Harness.

First, there is no retailer in my country so i can't try the boots, i have to go blind. Second, since i will buy them online overseas there is no option for me to buy 2 pairs, 2 widths, return, refund, and so on...is not worth it, i have one shot.

I don't have wide feet, or very narrow feet, or flat feet, i have average feet. I don't intend to put insoles in the boots, or wear thick wool socks, i want to wear them with athletic socks or medium cotton socks.

My current (US) shoe sizes are:

11 in all my running shoes(new ballance, nike, asics)

11 in all my skate shoes(vans, fallen, globe, etnies)

10.5D in Frye rogan engineer boots

The store from where i intend to buy doesn't have the Amber Harness in EE, only D. So based on what i have read here my options are 10D or 10.5D. I can only buy one. What do you recommend?

 

Thanks!

 

Being a pretty average guy myself and having bought three pairs of Iron Rangers?  I would definitely recommend going a full size down.  All of mine are a full size down and fit *perfect* ... even with a thick boot sock.  Half size down worked okay for me but were way too long in the front .. 

 

Post some thoughts when you get them ... 

post #1163 of 1197

Celebrated my 1 year anniversary for my IRs (with vibram sole).

 

It's gone thru snow, mud, dirt and streets and continue to stay in heavy rotation with my other boots. The color has darkened up very nicely with RW mink oil.

Fits me like a pair of gloves and has molded in extremely well though breaking these in was a beeching experience ;-).

 

Saving up for get another pair just to throw in the mix (eyeing the hawthorne tan or Copper or any ligther shade). There's NO comparison in this price range. I've had Wolverine 1ks briefly and sold it and kept the IRs.

post #1164 of 1197
Bootseason again. Amber Harness going on their 6th winter season

post #1165 of 1197
This is gonna get confusing once I get my PADI as well:D:D
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Originally Posted by SSingh1975 View Post

Celebrated my 1 year anniversary for my IRs (with vibram sole).

It's gone thru snow, mud, dirt and streets and continue to stay in heavy rotation with my other boots. The color has darkened up very nicely with RW mink oil.
Fits me like a pair of gloves and has molded in extremely well though breaking these in was a beeching experience ;-).

Saving up for get another pair just to throw in the mix (eyeing the hawthorne tan or Copper or any ligther shade). There's NO comparison in this price range. I've had Wolverine 1ks briefly and sold it and kept the IRs.

post #1166 of 1197
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post
 

 

Being a pretty average guy myself and having bought three pairs of Iron Rangers?  I would definitely recommend going a full size down.  All of mine are a full size down and fit *perfect* ... even with a thick boot sock.  Half size down worked okay for me but were way too long in the front .. 

 

Post some thoughts when you get them ... 

Seems that everybody recommends going down one full size, so that's what i will do.
Definitely i will share some thoughts here after i got them.

Thanks s1rrah!

post #1167 of 1197
Hello everyone.
I would like to share a problem I have with my red wing IRs. I have a pair of boots 9.5 size that the left one has creased to perfection , and the right one has a crease exactly behind the stitching of the cap to that digs into my big toe and kills it. I know that my right foot is a bit smaller than the left but also I noticed that the CAP TOE at the right boot is 0.5 cm longer than the left . Could this be the reason that the leather can't crease properly or is it just my feet ?
If it's my feet I can try and live with it , if it's because of the boot , im really fed up with the red wing boots " small " and " expected " defects (as they state) .

Pic attached that you can see the difference in cap toe length and creasing

Any help is appreciated .
post #1168 of 1197
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Originally Posted by stuntman86 View Post

Hello everyone.
I would like to share a problem I have with my red wing IRs. I have a pair of boots 9.5 size that the left one has creased to perfection , and the right one has a crease exactly behind the stitching of the cap to that digs into my big toe and kills it. I know that my right foot is a bit smaller than the left but also I noticed that the CAP TOE at the right boot is 0.5 cm longer than the left . Could this be the reason that the leather can't crease properly or is it just my feet ?
If it's my feet I can try and live with it , if it's because of the boot , im really fed up with the red wing boots " small " and " expected " defects (as they state) .

Pic attached that you can see the difference in cap toe length and creasing

Any help is appreciated .

 

Those don't look too abnormal at all ... both of my IR's have creased slightly different (can take some pictures later) ... 

 

Also, when new, both of mine caused me the same sort of grief when first wearing them ... IE> they pressed down on my toes when ever I bent at the forefoot when walking ... in a review I did at Amazon, I called it "toe biting" ... 

 

After a decent few week break in period, they've never bothered me since.

 

I personally wouldn't fault the boot and the admitted slight differences you might see/measure in them; this is going to be exactly the case with any boot, really... and even more so with those hand constructed, just a fact of production.

 

Here is something you might try, though.  I did this and it helped tremendously (especially on my Black Harness IR's because their leather is a bit stiffer than other boots and also is not as absorbent when conditioning with oils):

 

Get some decent boot oil such as standard mink oil or something like Obenauf's boot oil, the more liquid the better ... and using your finger, coat the INSIDE of the entire crease area with a nice coat of the oil until you can feel the leather noticeably loosen up.

 

This worked quite well for me and I personally used Saphir Renovator Medaille dOr 1925 ... a super nice boot creme that you can apply quite liberally to the inside area of that crease; it has the added benefit of smelling super nice as well and the worst it might do is make your socks smell good too. Here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/Saphir-Renovator-75ml-Medaille-Paris/dp/B00MS1IDIA/ref=pd_lpo_309_bs_t_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HWGJ96QRX9DAH3W3Q3BY

 

But really, for maximum softening of that area of the forefoot, I would go with something more "liquid" like Obenauf's boot oil as it saturates the leather more and therefore loosens it more. The Obenauf oil even comes with a little cotton like "dobber" that you can use to apply the oil on the INSIDE of the forefoot ... with those black IR's, there will be no harmful or perceived effects to the exterior of the boot (it looks like you polish them with wax polish, BTW ... which can also stiffen the leather) ...

 

So try that and see if it helps.

 

Also, not sure what sort of socks your wearing but a nice, thick boot sock also helps (personally, though, I can wear my IR's barefoot or with super thin socks and am never bothered in the least.

 

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Hope that helps ...

 

joel

post #1169 of 1197
Joel, first of all thanks for the help. I understand what you say and that minor differences between hand made boots are normal. Of course it does not bother me if it's just " decoration " fault . My main concern is that the crease on the right boot is exactly behind the cap toe , and is like there is no space for the leather to turn around like a wave ( like the left shoe) , because the stitched area of the cap toe is not flexible . I use mink oil as you say , from the inside as well . I hope it becomes so soft that I don't feel it anymore what can I say !

I post two pics though so you have a better idea of what I speak about . Appreciated if you could post your pics too !

First pic is the right boot ( that the crease is more front than the left boot and kills me for the moment.

In the second pic is left boot that the crease is fine and before the cap toe the leather has made a " wave " that pushes the cap toe .




post #1170 of 1197
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Originally Posted by stuntman86 View Post

Joel, first of all thanks for the help. I understand what you say and that minor differences between hand made boots are normal. Of course it does not bother me if it's just " decoration " fault . My main concern is that the crease on the right boot is exactly behind the cap toe , and is like there is no space for the leather to turn around like a wave ( like the left shoe) , because the stitched area of the cap toe is not flexible . I use mink oil as you say , from the inside as well . I hope it becomes so soft that I don't feel it anymore what can I say !

I post two pics though so you have a better idea of what I speak about . Appreciated if you could post your pics too !

 

Hi there ...

 

I had a chance to take some side by side photos of my Black Harness IR's this morning; I had not had a chance to give them a serious look but, as I thought, the crease point is totally different on each boot.

 

On my left boot, the crease is right at the edge of the toe cap...

 

And on my right boot, the crease is a good bit before the toe cap, forming what you refer to as a "wave" ... neither boot hurt or irritate my feet at all ... completely comfortable ...

 

Here's the shots...

 

(also, for those who might be interested, these are size 8.5D which is a *full* size down from my normal shoe size of 9.5D. Mentioned so you might see how a full size down might wear/look in the toe area for a guy with completely average width feet)

 

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Otherwise, ...

 

How do the boots fit, overall?  In your photos, the boots look like they might be a little small for your foot, judging by the look of your toe box area (the look short in the front compared to mine); from the way they have worn, it looks as though you should have more room in the toe box/forefoot area??

 

But do try applying a good application of boot oil on the inside of your boot; perhaps that will help?

 

Best of luck!

 

Joel

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