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Originally Posted by Veremund View Post

Will you need a suit at work? Regardless, you do need brown shoes. Get a pair pronto. You can't go to work every day in the same black shoes and same blue suit.

How old and where are you?
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Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan View Post

+1. You really need a minimum of 3 suits to ensure proper rotation (allow the fabric to air out and wrinkles to fall out, and so on) to allow the life of the suit to... well, not be extremely short lived. You really only need a pair of black shoes for interviews and formal events, but they are a necessity at some point in the shoe wardrobe, whether first or last. You also need at least two pairs of shoes to rotate (also to air out and settle back to form), although I really think three is optimal and the minimum rotation I use.

I think the conclusion is - spend your money now on a navy or charcoal suit for your interview. Thrift it and get some alterations done. The major noticeable important alterations would be sleeve length and waist - my tailor charges $15 for sleeves and $15 for waist generally. If you have some time and patience, get your measurements taken and scour eBay, get something close to your measurements (usually slightly bigger is better, as a tailor can take away cloth, but can't add it), and have it altered. If the current shirt you have is muted, it's fine, otherwise, get a plain white dress shirt (not OCBD). The shoes you have will do for your interview. Get a tie - solid or muted pattern, dark earth tones (maroon, green, navy, etc - NOT bright red, gold, bright blue, any neon type color etc.)

I'd generalize that in the US, engineers are relatively sloppy dressers. That doesn't mean you have to be, but you need to dress at a formality level relative to your peers so as to make them comfortable. You'd look strange in a suit every day compared to your peers, managers would think you are trying to one-up them, etc, not good. I'd assume Mexico is similar. OCBDs and chinos will be perfect once you actually get the job. So, your first paycheck will be 2-3 more pairs of chinos (get maybe another shade of tan from what you already have, a navy, and maybe grey), 4-5 OCBDs (white, blue, salmon/pink, and maybe some muted stripes or gingham check), and brown shoes. Throw the black shoes in your closet and don't pull them out again until a formal event, performance assessment, another interview, etc. Again, if you have patience, you can find gold at thrift shops or eBay, but if not, do the best you can in department stores.

Fit is INFINITELY more important than quality at this stage for you. Make sure everything fits, and if it doesn't make sure you get it cheap enough to afford alterations to make it fit. The most common offenders are pant legs too long and shirts too big in the body. Get pants hemmed so the top of the pants just touches the top of your shoe and has a slight bend, should be under $10 per pair of pants to have done. If shirts are billow-y in the body or there is a lot of bunching when you tuck them in, get the shirts taken in at the sides or have darts added to slim down the body. Cost will depend on how much work is needed, but maybe anywhere from $5-15 would be a guess. It's better to have 5 perfectly fitted shirts than 10 that are huge, with the same cost in the end. You just have to do laundry more, but you'll look better every day. Some will argue to not waste money on alterations unless it's a designer piece of clothing, but you don't want to wait to look good until you can afford those brands, right?

Next purchase would be a second pair of brown shoes, different style and color. Why? Because shoes last longer when they can air out and dry out between wears, so you rotate them every day. Then, I'd sprinkle in a few more shirts and save for a third pair of brown shoes, just to expand the rotation. Pick up a second tie at some point so in the event you have to wear your suit 2 days in a row, you can at least rotate the tie (it's OK to wear the same suit 2 days in a row, no one will notice that). At that point, you don't need any more, so save your money for some life events.
post #27422 of 28664
^^^ Listen to the man, for he is wise.
post #27423 of 28664
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Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post

^^^ Listen to the man, for he is wise.

Thanks. Do as I say, not as I do. I wish I could follow my own advice. I'm a very "shiny object" kind of guy - I spend way too much money on stuff I don't actually need. I have about 10 gold ties for example. I'd argue I don't even need one. But it was a great deal at the time!
post #27424 of 28664
Hey dude
yes ive checked other websites and youtube channles about how to dress well, most of them tell me the same advice, " a cheap tailored shirt is worth 2 or 3 exensive unfiting shirts", those r not exactly the words but i get the idea. ill make sure to consider a tailor when necessary.

And yes ill definitely invest in shoes after my first paycheck and some OCBTs, i will have to dress shitty for a couple of weeks but i dont care as long as i get the job.
By the way engineers are popular for dressing sloopy here also. it seems they have the same reputation all over the world lol.

I must say that i didnt expect so much help from this site when i first got here but dude, i was so wrong tongue.gif. Thanks everybody for your advice.

Regards
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Originally Posted by Albertoctro View Post

Hey dude
yes ive checked other websites and youtube channles about how to dress well, most of them tell me the same advice, " a cheap tailored shirt is worth 2 or 3 exensive unfiting shirts", those r not exactly the words but i get the idea. ill make sure to consider a tailor when necessary.

And yes ill definitely invest in shoes after my first paycheck and some OCBTs, i will have to dress shitty for a couple of weeks but i dont care as long as i get the job.
By the way engineers are popular for dressing sloopy here also. it seems they have the same reputation all over the world lol.

I must say that i didnt expect so much help from this site when i first got here but dude, i was so wrong tongue.gif. Thanks everybody for your advice.

Regards

I'm an accountant, our reputation isn't much better. Good luck!

Check out Stafford from JCPenney. Low quality, but when on sale, extremely cheap. Their "fitted" style is like a perfect fit for me, no alterations required. I pick them up when on sale to use for traveling or other beater situations. Their OCBDs are part poly and have a slightly rougher texture, but have a nice stiff collar that generates a really nice collar roll.

Edit: by extremely cheap, I mean I just grabbed one last week for $8. Sales are always happening.
post #27426 of 28664
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Originally Posted by TJhambone09 View Post

I wish I could follow my own advice. I'm a very "shiny object" kind of guy - I spend way too much money on stuff I don't actually need. I have about 10 gold ties for example. I'd argue I don't even need one. But it was a great deal at the time!

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Hello all, 

 

Looking into getting some tattersall shirts and am unsure if I should go with a button down, spread, or NOBD collar. Thoughts? I am not keen on wearing button downs with a suit and thus feel forced to choose between more formal or more casual. If I make it a spread, I would be less prone to wearing it with a blazer or sport coat, and or without a tie (with jacket), or even casually without a jacket or tie. If I make it a button down, I would be less prone to wearing with a suit.

 

Thank you.  

post #27428 of 28664
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Originally Posted by TJhambone09 View Post

Thanks. Do as I say, not as I do. I wish I could follow my own advice. I'm a very "shiny object" kind of guy - I spend way too much money on stuff I don't actually need. I have about 10 gold ties for example. I'd argue I don't even need one. But it was a great deal at the time!

My only suit, until last week, was a steel blue three piece, with 2.5" lapels. I went in with the plan of navy or charcoal. I really did. I could have ordered the same suit in navy, or charcoal, same price, but I tried on the steel and it was so sparkly!
post #27429 of 28664
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Originally Posted by SirJamesWinston View Post
 

Hello all, 

 

Looking into getting some tattersall shirts and am unsure if I should go with a button down, spread, or NOBD collar. Thoughts? I am not keen on wearing button downs with a suit and thus feel forced to choose between more formal or more casual. If I make it a spread, I would be less prone to wearing it with a blazer or sport coat, and or without a tie (with jacket), or even casually without a jacket or tie. If I make it a button down, I would be less prone to wearing with a suit.

 

Thank you.  


If it's a true tattersall, you shouldn't be wearing it with a suit.

 

If it's some kind of refined grid check, then it could go either way.

 

I have tattersalls with both spread collars and BD collars. I have some poplin grid checks with BD collars that I like, and one or two true tattersalls with BD collars, which I also like. I'd like some subtly checked spread collar shirts to wear with more refined clothes, and then some spread collar tattersall shirts to wear with tweeds and ties, when I'm feeling like a bit of an Anglophile.

 

If you show the cloth you're thinking of, I'd be happy to let you know what I think, for what it's worth. Also, if you could remind me what the NOBD collar is again (something with the member of that name, and with Luxire, but beyond that I don't recall).

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Originally Posted by YRR92 View Post
 


If it's a true tattersall, you shouldn't be wearing it with a suit.

 

If it's some kind of refined grid check, then it could go either way.

 

I have tattersalls with both spread collars and BD collars. I have some poplin grid checks with BD collars that I like, and one or two true tattersalls with BD collars, which I also like. I'd like some subtly checked spread collar shirts to wear with more refined clothes, and then some spread collar tattersall shirts to wear with tweeds and ties, when I'm feeling like a bit of an Anglophile.

 

If you show the cloth you're thinking of, I'd be happy to let you know what I think, for what it's worth. Also, if you could remind me what the NOBD collar is again (something with the member of that name, and with Luxire, but beyond that I don't recall).

Thank you for the response. Here are the shirt patters:

-http://custom.luxire.com/collections/all-sorted-by-price-low-to-high/products/red-navy-big-tattersall

-http://custom.luxire.com/collections/all-sorted-by-price-low-to-high/products/orange-blue-big-tattersall

-http://custom.luxire.com/collections/all-sorted-by-price-low-to-high/products/blue-black-tattersall

-http://custom.luxire.com/collections/all-sorted-by-price-low-to-high/products/green-blue-large-tattersall

-http://custom.luxire.com/collections/dress-shirts/products/red-pink-navy-tattersall (like this one the least)

 

Here is the NOBD collar, seems like a more casual spread and Luxire stated it was their most popular non button down collar at the present time. 

 

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With and without tie:

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Also, is it safe to say with patterned shirts and suits, that the larger the pattern the less safe it is to wear with a suit? For example, gingham is acceptable to wear with a suit, but is pushing it. the line. Anything larger=more casual/sport shirt? For example, this is clearly a suit shirt (can be worn with other items, but natural fit is with a suit):
 
 
 
post #27431 of 28664
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Originally Posted by TJhambone09 View Post

I'm an accountant, our reputation isn't much better. Good luck!

Check out Stafford from JCPenney. Low quality, but when on sale, extremely cheap. Their "fitted" style is like a perfect fit for me, no alterations required. I pick them up when on sale to use for traveling or other beater situations. Their OCBDs are part poly and have a slightly rougher texture, but have a nice stiff collar that generates a really nice collar roll.

Edit: by extremely cheap, I mean I just grabbed one last week for $8. Sales are always happening.

Ive alreay checked the site, theres a lot to pick from and yeah the prices r almost ridiculous wich is good. ive also noticed that most sttaford oxford shirts say "dress shirt", Can i use those dress shirts untucked?. I do apoligize if its a dumb question.
post #27432 of 28664
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Originally Posted by Albertoctro View Post

Ive alreay checked the site, theres a lot to pick from and yeah the prices r almost ridiculous wich is good. ive also noticed that most sttaford oxford shirts say "dress shirt", Can i use those dress shirts untucked?. I do apoligize if its a dumb question.

No question is dumb unless you could have easily obtained the answer yourself like by searching. You will notice here that most everyone will jump down your throat pretty quickly if you ask a question that has been answered 1,000 other times. Yours have been pretty specific to your situation, so they are fine, and you asked them in the right place. I'd avoid starting new threads for questions for the most part, just ask here.

They are probably a little long to wear untucked, but it depends on your environment. I wouldn't wear them untucked to work, regardless of what others at work do. That's just too far below professional for me. But if you mean making them dual purpose to wear on the weekend or something, it would be up to you. I don't as I feel they are too long, but you may get one and think it's fine.
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Originally Posted by Albertoctro View Post


Ive alreay checked the site, theres a lot to pick from and yeah the prices r almost ridiculous wich is good. ive also noticed that most sttaford oxford shirts say "dress shirt", Can i use those dress shirts untucked?. I do apoligize if its a dumb question.

 

I would look at H&M for dress shirts to wear untucked. They'd probably run you about 12-15 bucks each.

post #27434 of 28664

What are the names of each of these shoe styles in the following link? Thank you.

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XZgkX8ierKQ/UDaMeiAW5xI/AAAAAAAAAmI/sJ9atOlM_i0/s1600/david+gandy1.jpg

post #27435 of 28664

First looks like a pair of cap toes and the 2nd and 3rd look like chelsea boots.

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