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post #23986 of 29141
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Originally Posted by YRR92 View Post
 

As well as any black shoes go with jeans. In the last week or so I've worn my very dark brown chelsea boots (current model, $100 from Lands' End) with jeans and a sweater, cords and a sportcoat, and a gray flannel suit. I'd pick up a pair in black, but I don't need them. The leather isn't great, but they're fine (they compare well to Cole Haan) and for the money that's all I can ask.

What's the leather like on those? I think the shoes I picked up would go as well as those would, but those look interesting.

 

Thanks!

post #23987 of 29141
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

^I don't think either of those boots does both formal and casual. The balmoral boot is way too formal for jeans, and the other too casual for suits.

How about a black Chelsea boot?

I have these,http://m.nordstrom.com/s/3545308/?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=shoes:men:boots&cm_ite=prada_chelsea_boot:926749&cm_ven=Google_Product_Ads&mr:referralID=f8001098-376b-11e3-bae4-001b2166c2c0

I wear them fairly often casually, but couldn't wear them seriously with a suit. They are primarily tapped for night out on the town duty.

J
post #23988 of 29141
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

You think a black chelsea boot would go with both jeans and a suit?
You'd probably be better off buying two pairs of boots - one which goes well with suits, and another which goes well with jeans.

I know you'd like to find one pair which goes well with everything. Unfortunately, you're much more likely to wind up with one pair which is a mediocre match for everything, and an excellent match for nothing. It's like buying a Swiss Army knife, because it gives you 47 tools in one. Sure, it's convenient and inexpensive, but none of those tools is likely to be as good for the job as a single, "normal" tool.

Since quality footwear, properly cared for, can give many years (decades) of use, this should be one area where spending a little more upfront, for excellent quality and excellent suitability to the role you wish the boots to play, makes sense. It's not like you'd be blowing hundreds of extra dollars on an item which you'd only be able to use a handful of times, before it grew worn out and had to be replaced. Quality footwear can be thought of as more of a long term investment.

If you absolutely, positively cannot purchase two pairs of quality boots, I'd recommend you decide which is more important to you - wearing with jeans, or wearing with suits - and buy one quality pair for that one purpose. Then, later on, when finances make it possible, buy a second pair of quality boots for the other, lesser, purpose.
post #23989 of 29141
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post


I have these,http://m.nordstrom.com/s/3545308/?cm_cat=datafeed&cm_pla=shoes:men:boots&cm_ite=prada_chelsea_boot:926749&cm_ven=Google_Product_Ads&mr:referralID=f8001098-376b-11e3-bae4-001b2166c2c0

I wear them fairly often casually, but couldn't wear them seriously with a suit. They are primarily tapped for night out on the town duty.

J

 

I really don't like shoes that look like they're super polished patent leather. Those are also way out of my price range.

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

Black shoes aren't great for casual - if I were wearing black with blue jeans, it would have to be something like a heavy scotchgrain, perhaps with a thick welt or heavy sole.  There is no one shoe for everything, and this is not the place to find people who will advise you to buy fewer shoes....

 

Of the two, pick the AE because it will actually be smart enough to wear with a suit, and it's a better-made shoe.  But assuming that's around the $300 mark even in the sale, I suggest this: if you're on a budget and that's why you only want one, then email shoebank@allenedmonds.com asking them what they have as seconds in your size (see above comments on size guide, or go into an AE shop and get measured./try stuff).  I am sure you will find some sharp black dress shoes and somethign better to wear casually, maybe even a boot or two, and get both for under $300.

The AE seconds are 250ish and I just found out they don't have my size in the bank so nevermind... I'll wait for a 2 for 250 sale.

I don't mind buying used as well, so lets see. Thanks for the response.

 

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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


You'd probably be better off buying two pairs of boots - one which goes well with suits, and another which goes well with jeans.

I know you'd like to find one pair which goes well with everything. Unfortunately, you're much more likely to wind up with one pair which is a mediocre match for everything, and an excellent match for nothing. It's like buying a Swiss Army knife, because it gives you 47 tools in one. Sure, it's convenient and inexpensive, but none of those tools is likely to be as good for the job as a single, "normal" tool.

Since quality footwear, properly cared for, can give many years (decades) of use, this should be one area where spending a little more upfront, for excellent quality and excellent suitability to the role you wish the boots to play, makes sense. It's not like you'd be blowing hundreds of extra dollars on an item which you'd only be able to use a handful of times, before it grew worn out and had to be replaced. Quality footwear can be thought of as more of a long term investment.

If you absolutely, positively cannot purchase two pairs of quality boots, I'd recommend you decide which is more important to you - wearing with jeans, or wearing with suits - and buy one quality pair for that one purpose. Then, later on, when finances make it possible, buy a second pair of quality boots for the other, lesser, purpose.

 

I kinda have two pairs of black boots. I bought a pair of used CH black 'waterproof' chukkas that turned out to be defective and I glued back the sole and they're working fine for now. I think I might be set with the Aldo's I got. I'll post a picture later.

As far as thinking long term, I have a pair of AE walnut daltons I bought used which I expect to last me for the next 5 years atleast. I could pull off a suit with them if I had to. I also have a couple of pairs of brown zip up boots that I could wear with jeans. I like black boots with black jeans though, which I do tend to wear. I also like wearing black shoes/boots with khaki's and dress pants when I go to work.

 

I have a bunch of other dress shoes too that I've sniped on ebay and they're all in good condition. A few of them might not be resole-able, but a few of them are actually pretty nice made in USA or Italy J&M's.

 

I'm kind of at the point where I almost wish that I could exclusively wear boots. So lets see what happens.

 

If anything, I have too many shoes. I should probably wear out and toss some of the meh ones though.

post #23990 of 29141
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

What's the leather like on those? I think the shoes I picked up would go as well as those would, but those look interesting.

 

Thanks!


Cheap, but they're cheap shoes, and this is full-grain which polishes up okay. Like I said, they're about on par with the full-grain Cole Haans I own, but the finishing from the factory is not nearly as good. I've probably polished them two or three times in the couple weeks I've had them, and they're starting to look pretty good.

 

In terms of what you picked up, I don't like blind brogues, there's no way I'd wear black shoes with a brown sole edge with a suit, and the overall shape is a bit clunky for a suit with a fashionably trim leg line.

post #23991 of 29141
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Originally Posted by YRR92 View Post
 


Cheap, but they're cheap shoes, and this is full-grain which polishes up okay. Like I said, they're about on par with the full-grain Cole Haans I own, but the finishing from the factory is not nearly as good. I've probably polished them two or three times in the couple weeks I've had them, and they're starting to look pretty good.

 

In terms of what you picked up, I don't like blind brogues, there's no way I'd wear black shoes with a brown sole edge with a suit, and the overall shape is a bit clunky for a suit with a fashionably trim leg line.

 

Yeah, surprisingly the Aldo's were rather sleek. Like I said, I'll post a picture. Their stitching isn't amazing, but they look reasonably constructed. I've heard on here that they suck, but we'll see.

post #23992 of 29141
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Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

Mtm wouldn't have darts
Darts are for slimming. Rack items

 

I'm new to the concept of darts, but was surprised to just notice some on my OTR shirt, which was not retailored. This makes me wonder, whether there really are other options of getting rid of back-blousiness.

post #23993 of 29141

Can a tailor do anything about overly puffy sleeves? I bought a BB sport shirt sight unseen and the sleeves are massive in the bicep area.. 

post #23994 of 29141
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post
 

Can a tailor do anything about overly puffy sleeves? I bought a BB sport shirt sight unseen and the sleeves are massive in the bicep area.. 

 

He definitely can, but it may not be worth the expense, depending how much he has to dismantle the shirt.  Take it to someone good, and ask for a quote.

post #23995 of 29141

Thanks ImTheGroom. Time to find a good tailor in Phoenix. 

post #23996 of 29141
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post
 

Thanks ImTheGroom. Time to find a good tailor in Phoenix. 

 

Search for a thread on that subject; there is likely to be one.  If there is not, start one with called "Good Tailor in Phoenix?" and I am sure you will receive many, many suggestions.

post #23997 of 29141

Woah. Didn't know about darts. Now all those BB shirts that had the right length but were too puffy for me are suddenly shirts that could fit me and look awesome. I'll have to look into it. I'm relatively skinny so having the huge poof in the back isn't so appealing...

post #23998 of 29141
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

Woah. Didn't know about darts. Now all those BB shirts that had the right length but were too puffy for me are suddenly shirts that could fit me and look awesome. I'll have to look into it. I'm relatively skinny so having the huge poof in the back isn't so appealing...

 

I get pretty much all my shirts darted; my unique combination of shoulder, torso, chest, and waist sizes just seem to be pretty uncommon.  Adds around $10 to the cost of every shirt you buy, unless your wife/gf is handy with a needle and thread.  Or you are, I suppose, but not sure how you'd pin it yourself.

post #23999 of 29141

While we're talking about BB shirts and fit, I have another question. Does BB sell any slim fit shirts that don't explicitly say "Slim Fit" on the tag? I ordered two of these shirts: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Irish-Linen-Slim-Fit-Solid-Sport-Shirt/MG00887,default,pd.html?dwvar_MG00887_Color=BLUE&contentpos=5&cgid=0310 Only the one that I mentioned earlier has arrived so far. It has the dark blue text on the tag but it does NOT say slim fit anywhere on it. I think either BB's slim fit is REALLY poofy or I got sent a regular fit shirt. 

post #24000 of 29141

Side question, does the classic menswear have an ebay finds thread? I.e. someone should snag this etc.

 

I found these prada boots in an 8.5 and someone should totally grab them if they're legit.

 

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