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post #23581 of 28731
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Originally Posted by buchoelbrusco View Post
Hey I'm getting married soon in a daytime event but I really wouldn't like to be wearing a suit, I know it's a crime to use a tux before 6 pm but I'm the groom isn't there a license like wearing a red bow tie without a cummerbund and vest? Or something else... Any suggestions I really want to our a classic black tux

 

It's actually not a crime.  You won't get arrested.  It's more like walking around town in full SCUBA gear.  Inappropriate.  Evening wear is for the evening.  If it's what you want to wear, and your intended is cool with it, go ahead.  People get married in Darth Vader costumes and all sorts.

post #23582 of 28731

I'm considering these shoes: 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/sanders/products/4221.php

 

Either in black or in 'waxy' brown. I have a hard time figuring out wether they are made of good quality leather or not, so i e-mailed Sanders UK, and they informed me that both the black and the waxy brown are made of cow leather, not calf. Does this mean that they are neccesarly corrected grain? Should i avoid them because of this?

post #23583 of 28731
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

Can someone give me some advice on how much to shorten these pants by to end up with a quarter break? I don't like how they're puddling in the front. I'm thinking about 0.5 inches to 0.75 inches each

 

Ask the tailor, but I'd guess starting with a half inch would be sensible.

 

 

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Originally Posted by 850csi View Post
 

Hey fellas,

 

First time poster. What's the feeling regarding mother of pearl dials on men's watches? I know Rolex does it on the Submariner. Here's another example on an homage:

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_u20GxB_am24/SjzkBag3vEI/AAAAAAAADTA/BDyGeLdPSIc/s800/IMG_9328.JPG

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww204/MoonPhased/Fathers-Day-wrist-1.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3072/snv30102ht6.jpg

 

My feeling is that I'd like one on a watch for my lady, but not for me.  Don't do it.  And don't buy a "homage" either; there are plenty of watches in the same price range that are good in their own right.

 

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Originally Posted by buchoelbrusco View Post

Hey I'm getting married soon in a daytime event but I really wouldn't like to be wearing a suit, I know it's a crime to use a tux before 6 pm but I'm the groom isn't there a license like wearing a red bow tie without a cummerbund and vest? Or something else... Any suggestions I really want to our a classic black tux

 

Wear what you like for your wedding (actually, wear what SHE likes, really, trust me).  But if you want "Classic Menswear" approval, you're way off beam.  A "tuxedo" or dinner suit, is for dinner, after dark.  Some wear a white jacket for dinners that start during daylight hours, or in warm climates.  But really, they're not really correct in this instance.  If you feel a lounge suit is too ordinary, then I agree with you on that, too.  This whole business of getting married in a dinner suit is very much American, certainly not classic, and personally I find it a little silly. And a lounge suit is just lazy.  There is, as I said, the caveat that if she wants you to wear a cornflower blue velvet "tuxedo", then just do as you're told.  But just don't tell us.

 

So here's the thing, in proper "Classic Menswear" style: you are getting married, in the daytime.  It is therefore a very formal daytime event.  There is ONE correct dress for a very formal daytime event, and that is a morning suit or morning coat.  The hat, incidentally, you should likely never wear (as you're in some place for a wedding; hats are never worn indoors and should be removed and held when speaking to a lady or person of quality even outside), and the yellow gloves, if chosen, are just a prop to be carried.  You can probably dispense with both if you wish.  But look it up: morning dress.  It is the answer to all your questions.

 

 

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Originally Posted by chatre View Post
 

I'm considering these shoes: 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/sanders/products/4221.php

 

Either in black or in 'waxy' brown. I have a hard time figuring out wether they are made of good quality leather or not, so i e-mailed Sanders UK, and they informed me that both the black and the waxy brown are made of cow leather, not calf. Does this mean that they are neccesarly corrected grain? Should i avoid them because of this?

 

Buy them if you like them.  The quality of the leather will be as you'd expect for the price, no doubt, but personally I quite like the look of them.

post #23584 of 28731

^Thanks for the answer. I guess you are right in essence, although i sometimes find it hard to decide on wether to buy something or not without having seen it in real life. 

 

In general though, will cow leather always be corrected grain, or is there full grain cow as well?

post #23585 of 28731

There is no agreed technical definition, as far as I know, of the difference between "cow" and "calf", and no relation at all with corrected grain.  Basically, if it's very shiny it's usually corrected grain.  If it has a kind of dull glow, then it usually isn't.  In this case it's hard to tell, but they're not that expensive, they are a strong, traditional, masculine shape, and the "waxy brown" looks like a very pleasing colour.  Would be great with jeans.  And I don't even like jeans very much....

post #23586 of 28731
What colour suits are acceptable for business wear? I'm still trying to decide what to wear for my wedding which will be held at a winery in the daytime in summer with reception in the evening at same location. I'm a first year lawyer in a suburban practice and currently own only 2 suits (navy and dark grey). I want to justify getting a nice suit for the wedding by using it with more sober accessories at work afterwards.
So basically are any colours like mid-grey, (non navy) blue or non pinstripey patterns appropriate for work?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Btw- if I had a choice I would be going full morning suit but I'm an awkward shape for otr rental and can't justify $1k+ on something that can't double as a work uniform
post #23587 of 28731
Navy, charcoal, mid grey.

Subtle patterns are ok, but focus on the solids first, they are way more versatile.

Navy suit is great for a wedding, btw. I'd get a nice navy suit and wear it for normal wear afterwards.
post #23588 of 28731
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Navy, charcoal, mid grey.

Subtle patterns are ok, but focus on the solids first, they are way more versatile.

Navy suit is great for a wedding, btw. I'd get a nice navy suit and wear it for normal wear afterwards.

Yeah I thought as much. It might sound stupid but I feel stupid for getting a really nice navy suit as my first for work. So if I wear navy for the wedding I either end up wearing the suit I already own (doesn't sound like much fun) or buy Another nice navy suit and end up rotating a limited wardrobe of 1 plain grey and 2 plain navy.
Is that a ridiculous concern to have?
post #23589 of 28731

I've grown obsessed lately with the idea of a light, unlined, unconstructured sport coat in a charcoal linen. Being rather new to the bespoke process, I was curious where I would look to source the linen - something especially light in weight but in a rich, deep colour, preferably a charcoal? 3R2, dual vents, flap pockets, buttons in a subtle, aged gunmetal or bronze color.

 

Would this be relatively expensive to have made compared to a normal sport coat? It seems that since there would be such little construction, it would be cheaper.

post #23590 of 28731
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Originally Posted by buchoelbrusco View Post

Hey I'm getting married soon in a daytime event but I really wouldn't like to be wearing a suit, I know it's a crime to use a tux before 6 pm but I'm the groom isn't there a license like wearing a red bow tie without a cummerbund and vest? Or something else... Any suggestions I really want to our a classic black tux

Wear a stroller.
post #23591 of 28731
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Originally Posted by books and tweed View Post

I've grown obsessed lately with the idea of a light, unlined, unconstructured sport coat in a charcoal linen. Being rather new to the bespoke process, I was curious where I would look to source the linen - something especially light in weight but in a rich, deep colour, preferably a charcoal? 3R2, dual vents, flap pockets, buttons in a subtle, aged gunmetal or bronze color.

Would this be relatively expensive to have made compared to a normal sport coat? It seems that since there would be such little construction, it would be cheaper.

Charcoal sportscoats are not very versatile (have a look through jrd's sportscoat thread). Charcoal linen strikes me as double so. I would advise against it unless you already have an enormous wardrobe (like the owner of the one charcoal sc you'll see in jrd's thread). What did you imagine wearing it with, and for what occasions?

I'd also advise talking to your tailor and sourcing cloth through them for now. They'll get something they're happy working with.
post #23592 of 28731
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

Can someone give me some advice on how much to shorten these pants by to end up with a quarter break? I don't like how they're puddling in the front. I'm thinking about 0.5 inches to 0.75 inches each

Ask the tailor, but I'd guess starting with a half inch would be sensible.

Jrd you could consider getting them hemmed at an angle (I forget the technical term for this) - i.e. the front crease is slightly shorter than the back. The length at the back in some of you pics looks ok, even though they're bunched at the front.
post #23593 of 28731
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Originally Posted by ovlov View Post


Yeah I thought as much. It might sound stupid but I feel stupid for getting a really nice navy suit as my first for work. So if I wear navy for the wedding I either end up wearing the suit I already own (doesn't sound like much fun) or buy Another nice navy suit and end up rotating a limited wardrobe of 1 plain grey and 2 plain navy.
Is that a ridiculous concern to have?


Owning two navy suits doesn't sound like a problem to me. 80% of my suits are either navy or grey.
post #23594 of 28731

It's the suit that's never wrong.  Also, they don't have to be at all similar.  Lighter or heavier, double or single breasted, etc.

 

But deep down I feel you can work a bit harder on renting a morning suit :)

post #23595 of 28731
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

It's the suit that's never wrong.  Also, they don't have to be at all similar.  Lighter or heavier, double or single breasted, etc.

 

But deep down I feel you can work a bit harder on renting a morning suit :)

 

Mimo, to be honest  I haven't looked  that hard. But I've seen a lot of comments on other threads here about how it can be hard to pull off putting the wedding party in morning suits without making them look like kids playing dressups, and renting out suits pretty much guarantees that effect. 

I should also point out I live in Australia (not Sydney/Melbourne) so there are very few places to rent from and afaik only one store in town that sells morning attire, but almost certainly wouldn't stock it.
 
You guys might be right about the Navy though.... something in much lighter weave with peak lapels should be distinctly different enough.
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