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post #23401 of 28693
Prior to revisiting the tailor should I get pants pressed first to make sure the pant legs are falling correctly, or just go back and rely on the eye of said professional?

Also, is it true that ordinarily to properly taper a pair of trousers both inseam and out seam needs to be taken in, otherwise, the center crease will be crooked. Hence, causing imbalance and/or fit issues in the way pant legs drape. Kind of goes back to first question.
post #23402 of 28693
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Originally Posted by GloryField View Post

Hi everyone, what do you think of the following outfit for internship? Both the size/fit, and the color choices? And what are some other colors that would go well with mahogany/maroon pants, white and light blue solids?
 

 

Where are you interning?  If it's anywhere more formal than a deli, I'd suggest the following:

 

- Normal business dress is still a suit, unless otherwise instructed.  Also, wearing a tie without a jacket is a major Styleforum sin.

 

- Your tie is loud and rather slim; that's fashionable and you're young so it's fine.  But it will need a sober companion.

 

- Such as a navy blue suit.  This is the default, the suit that's never wrong.  Single breasted, two button, solid dark navy.  And the suit that this shirt and tie will look best with, too.  "Maroon" trousers are perfectly nice, but not office wear.

 

- Your shirt is fine.  It's not a matter of how much you spend, and later you will get better ones and you become more established.  It's clean, neutral and looks like a shirt for work.  When you get more, mix up the white with some light blue: it's actually more versatile: white can look a little stark with grey or charcoal suits, whereas light blue is stunning with either, and also with navy.  

 

- You don't need to get an expensive suit.  But you do need to have, at least, two cheap ones.  Don't worry about the label, just make sure it fits well (but not too tight), and is preferably all wool.  A wool/polyester mix will not look much different to most people, and might be OK, if a little warm.

 

- If you only take one piece of advice from this thread, it's this last point: wear decent shoes.  Clean, polished, and well-made (welted) - regardless of price or label.  They are the single most fundamental item in making you look well-dressed.  

 

- Oh, and don't put shit in your hair.  Just comb it.  I don't know if that's your habit, I'm just saying. 

 

Good luck with the internship!

 

P.S. Regarding accessibly-priced proper shoes, read these previous posts:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/22605#post_6451546

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/22635#post_6453044

post #23403 of 28693
Also: wear a belt.
post #23404 of 28693
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Originally Posted by gettoasty View Post

Prior to revisiting the tailor should I get pants pressed first to make sure the pant legs are falling correctly?
Also, is it true that ordinarily to properly taper a pair of trousers both inseam and out seam needs to be taken in?

No and no.
post #23405 of 28693

Considering getting some wholecuts in stingray. Does anyone have some color suggestions? Ever seen some in person? If so, how did it look? Would be Enzo Bonafe 3643 model. Personally I think black or dark blue would be best, but the dark green is also intriguing. 

 

Thanks!

post #23406 of 28693
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Where are you interning?  If it's anywhere more formal than a deli, I'd suggest the following:

- Normal business dress is still a suit, unless otherwise instructed.  

In what city? In what industry? If you're in banking, yes. If you're in Manhattan, perhaps. But in most places in the US I'd venture that you're more likely to be wrong than right with this statement (i.e., <50% of businesses have suits as the normal attire). Can't speak to other parts of the world.
post #23407 of 28693
If I want to wear a navy sport coat with a pair of (on the light side) grey pants, what else should I wear? Shirt tie shoe belt colors/patterns.
post #23408 of 28693
Thank you for the suggestions, sorry I was a little too vague.

I am a student interning at a hospital setting, where we'll have a white coat on, it would be very out of place for us to wear a suit jacket, and dress shirt + tie with chinos are required unfortunately.

I own a pair of charcoal gray 3 button and a lighter gray 2 button suits, but it's rare for me to wear them. If I do pick up another pair then navy would definitely be the next set. This picture of the 3 button charcoal gray suit is around 4 years ago and I don't wear that tie or such a dark shade of lavender shirt anymore, but the suit fits approximately the same, I gained slightly more muscles in the chest/shoulders/neck since then:
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/2533/img0264fc.jpg

For dress shirts, I have solid white, solid light blue, solid light lavender, solid light pink, light blue with white stripes, and light lavender with white stripes (from above).

For shoes, I own a pair of cap-toes that are very similar to the AE Park Aves, but with open lacing so it's casual enough to wear without a suit. The quality is nice and I take good care of it, so it's lasted me several years with light use. For casual going to school/class, I have:
brown suede slipon loafers, look very similar to these:
http://www.skechers.com/style/63972/florio-devin/brn

dark brown suede chukkas/desert boots
http://www.skechers.com/style/68012/taswell/dkbr

brown leather tassel loafers:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/neil-m-scot-tassel-shoes-loafers-leather-for-men~p~3261v

and just got these:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/dunham-aft-2-eye-shoes-leather-for-men~p~5244c/


Quote:
Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Where are you interning?  If it's anywhere more formal than a deli, I'd suggest the following:

- Normal business dress is still a suit, unless otherwise instructed.  Also, wearing a tie without a jacket is a major Styleforum sin.

- Your tie is loud and rather slim; that's fashionable and you're young so it's fine.  But it will need a sober companion.

- Such as a navy blue suit.  This is the default, the suit that's never wrong.  Single breasted, two button, solid dark navy.  And the suit that this shirt and tie will look best with, too.  "Maroon" trousers are perfectly nice, but not office wear.

- Your shirt is fine.  It's not a matter of how much you spend, and later you will get better ones and you become more established.  It's clean, neutral and looks like a shirt for work.  When you get more, mix up the white with some light blue: it's actually more versatile: white can look a little stark with grey or charcoal suits, whereas light blue is stunning with either, and also with navy.  

- You don't need to get an expensive suit.  But you do need to have, at least, two cheap ones.  Don't worry about the label, just make sure it fits well (but not too tight), and is preferably all wool.  A wool/polyester mix will not look much different to most people, and might be OK, if a little warm.

- If you only take one piece of advice from this thread, it's this last point: wear decent shoes.  Clean, polished, and well-made (welted) - regardless of price or label.  They are the single most fundamental item in making you look well-dressed.  

- Oh, and don't put shit in your hair.  Just comb it.  I don't know if that's your habit, I'm just saying. 

Good luck with the internship!

P.S. Regarding accessibly-priced proper shoes, read these previous posts:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/22605#post_6451546

http://www.styleforum.net/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/22635#post_6453044
post #23409 of 28693

These are the suits I selected from my Size range. Anyone know if any of these are quality brands? Or if the site is good to buy from?

 

Been shopping around online and someone posted a link to this, figured I could ask in this thread. 

 

 

http://www.yoox.com/us/men/sale/shoponline?dept=salemen&gender=U#/dept=salemen&gender=U&page=1&size=8&attributes=%7b%27ctgr%27%3a%5b%27bt%27%5d%7d&season=P

post #23410 of 28693
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Originally Posted by AMProf View Post


In what city? In what industry? If you're in banking, yes. If you're in Manhattan, perhaps. But in most places in the US I'd venture that you're more likely to be wrong than right with this statement (i.e., <50% of businesses have suits as the normal attire). Can't speak to other parts of the world.

 

You can take your jacket and tie off if you really feel overdressed.  If you're not sure, a suit is never wrong.  But as I said, "unless otherwise instructed".  And this is the Classic Menswear forum - what kind of business dress recommendation would you expect?  Where I live, perhaps one man in a hundred wears a suit.  Being that man is good.  Classic Menswear is good.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by IAmCaulfield View Post

If I want to wear a navy sport coat with a pair of (on the light side) grey pants, what else should I wear? Shirt tie shoe belt colors/patterns.

Look at the "What Are You Wearing Right Now" thread on this side of the forum for examples.  There are too many to mention but you will find plenty of combinations there based around this sort of combination.  You will also find comments and criticism of them aplenty to inform your decision!  

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryField View Post

Thank you for the suggestions, sorry I was a little too vague.

I am a student interning at a hospital setting, where we'll have a white coat on, it would be very out of place for us to wear a suit jacket, and dress shirt + tie with chinos are required unfortunately.

I own a pair of charcoal gray 3 button and a lighter gray 2 button suits, but it's rare for me to wear them. If I do pick up another pair then navy would definitely be the next set. This picture of the 3 button charcoal gray suit is around 4 years ago and I don't wear that tie or such a dark shade of lavender shirt anymore, but the suit fits approximately the same, I gained slightly more muscles in the chest/shoulders/neck since then:
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/2533/img0264fc.jpg

For dress shirts, I have solid white, solid light blue, solid light lavender, solid light pink, light blue with white stripes, and light lavender with white stripes (from above).

For shoes, I own a pair of cap-toes that are very similar to the AE Park Aves, but with open lacing so it's casual enough to wear without a suit. The quality is nice and I take good care of it, so it's lasted me several years with light use. For casual going to school/class, I have:
brown suede slipon loafers, look very similar to these:
http://www.skechers.com/style/63972/florio-devin/brn

dark brown suede chukkas/desert boots
http://www.skechers.com/style/68012/taswell/dkbr

brown leather tassel loafers:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/neil-m-scot-tassel-shoes-loafers-leather-for-men~p~3261v

and just got these:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/dunham-aft-2-eye-shoes-leather-for-men~p~5244c/

 

Thanks for the clarification - makes perfect sense.  From your original post I couldn't tell your age or wardrobe so defaulted to 1.1.  Well, your shoes are fine, your shirts are fine, and with a white coat, frankly any trousers that keep the wind off your balls are probably acceptable.  But I would personally still go with business-y greys, blues etc to look extra professional.  When you're working long shifts and mishaps are possible, they also don't show small stains etc as quickly!  Nothing wrong with chinos or similar if that's your thing either, but again, I suspect you might want a practical colour.  In the mean time, I don't think anyone will shoot you for the ones you're wearing.

 

As for shoes, nothing at all wrong with a cap toe derby for your purposes, although "similar to" does not make me feel confident!  Also, there's no rule saying you can't wear an oxford unless you wear a suit, and quality counts.  The actual Park Aves are not beyond you, and there are many alternatives too!  I wouldn't wear suede or tassel loafers, boat shoes or chukkas to work.  My advice above on shoes stands - stop buying glued together crap and invest in two pairs of welted shoes - I'd suggest a black oxford and a tan derby as your first two buys, to be the basis of the rest of your life!

 

That only leaves the tie.  Yours is OK, but as it's the only formal part of your attire when you slip your coat on, and certainly the one most visible, I'd go another way: you want to come across as mature, confident and together.  I think I'd lean towards something a little more conservative.  As you have a white shirt and white coat (and no possibility of a pocket square), black/white/grey should probably be off your list: try variations on navy (especially with these trousers), dark burgundy (not with these trousers), burnt orange or brown, or a deep olive green.  Small patterns or solids with some texture are most classy in my opinion.

post #23411 of 28693
Thanks again for the suggestions. I'd love to get AE's when I actually start working, but I think I'll have to stick with what I have right now and regularly clean/polish them using the AE cleaner and wax. I can't exactly drop $200 for a pair of shoes when my rent is $450 a month. The shoes I have are not welted, but I've had them for a long time and don't plan on wearing them past next summer. I have the same pair of cap toes in black as well.



For pants, I also have navy chinos and medium gray (a lot darker than the picture appears) trousers which see much more frequent use than the burgandy pair I posted. I wear the beige and the black pair much less.



I guess my original post was mainly looking for suggestions on shirt/tie combinations, and casual wear combinations that would go well with the burgandy chinos. It has turned a little more into my wardrobe, which I don't mind and do appreciate, since I haven't added any items in the last year other than the burgandy chinos and the navy chinos from Express.

Here are my ties and shirts, which I only wear in the hospital 3 days of the week. The rest of the time I have college/grad school classes and just wear plain solid colored v neck tees or more casual shirts with Levi 514's.





Watch:


For weekend events I may wear the burgandy or navy chinos with a tee or a shirt, and agray/bronze colored denim jacket, I'll take a picture shortly.

Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by mimo View Post

You can take your jacket and tie off if you really feel overdressed.  If you're not sure, a suit is never wrong.  But as I said, "unless otherwise instructed".  And this is the Classic Menswear forum - what kind of business dress recommendation would you expect?  Where I live, perhaps one man in a hundred wears a suit.  Being that man is good.  Classic Menswear is good.

Look at the "What Are You Wearing Right Now" thread on this side of the forum for examples.  There are too many to mention but you will find plenty of combinations there based around this sort of combination.  You will also find comments and criticism of them aplenty to inform your decision!  


Thanks for the clarification - makes perfect sense.  From your original post I couldn't tell your age or wardrobe so defaulted to 1.1.  Well, your shoes are fine, your shirts are fine, and with a white coat, frankly any trousers that keep the wind off your balls are probably acceptable.  But I would personally still go with business-y greys, blues etc to look extra professional.  When you're working long shifts and mishaps are possible, they also don't show small stains etc as quickly!  Nothing wrong with chinos or similar if that's your thing either, but again, I suspect you might want a practical colour.  In the mean time, I don't think anyone will shoot you for the ones you're wearing.

As for shoes, nothing at all wrong with a cap toe derby for your purposes, although "similar to" does not make me feel confident!  Also, there's no rule saying you can't wear an oxford unless you wear a suit, and quality counts.  The actual Park Aves are not beyond you, and there are many alternatives too!  I wouldn't wear suede or tassel loafers, boat shoes or chukkas to work.  My advice above on shoes stands - stop buying glued together crap and invest in two pairs of welted shoes - I'd suggest a black oxford and a tan derby as your first two buys, to be the basis of the rest of your life!

That only leaves the tie.  Yours is OK, but as it's the only formal part of your attire when you slip your coat on, and certainly the one most visible, I'd go another way: you want to come across as mature, confident and together.  I think I'd lean towards something a little more conservative.  As you have a white shirt and white coat (and no possibility of a pocket square), black/white/grey should probably be off your list: try variations on navy (especially with these trousers), dark burgundy (not with these trousers), burnt orange or brown, or a deep olive green.  Small patterns or solids with some texture are most classy in my opinion.
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post #23412 of 28693
So, for somewhat casual things like a weekend brunch or coffee, or maybe even a casual dinner, I was thinking of wearing the burgandy chinos with a light teal tee and this gray jacket with bronze stitchings. I also have a variety of other colored tees like light blue, light gray, light lavender, to slightly darker shades. I didn't think a shirt would look good with this jacket due to the double collars.

And back to one of my original questions, is the size on the chinos ok or is it considered too tight? I have muscular thighs and calves but a slightly smaller waist or 32".

post #23413 of 28693
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Originally Posted by GloryField View Post

So, for somewhat casual things like a weekend brunch or coffee, or maybe even a casual dinner, I was thinking of wearing the burgundy chinos with a light teal tee and this gray jacket with bronze stitching. I also have a variety of other colored tees like light blue, light gray, light lavender, to slightly darker shades. I didn't think a shirt would look good with this jacket due to the double collars.

And back to one of my original questions, is the size on the chinos ok or is it considered too tight? I have muscular thighs and calves but a smaller waist.

Chino size is great. By the way that isn't a jacket it is a Shacket (A shirt being worn as a jacket). The colors don't really work together, burgundy chinos are hard to pull off, but I would run with something navy blue perhaps a polo shirt or if it is cooler out a navy blue cotton jacket (a real one).

 

Something like this

post #23414 of 28693
I see, it's quite thick/heavy though, and is made of denim. But yea the collar makes it awkward to pair with anything other than tees.

Would either of these 2 shirts or the striped short sleeve polo work with it?

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Originally Posted by Shoeluv View Post

Chino size is great. By the way that isn't a jacket it is a Shacket (A shirt being worn as a jacket). The colors don't really work together, burgundy chinos are hard to pull off, but I would run with something navy blue perhaps a polo shirt or if it is cooler out a navy blue cotton jacket (a real one).

Something like this

post #23415 of 28693

GF, your shoes are indeed nasty.  But if you read the posts I linked to in my first reply, you'll find some good replacements under $100.  Seriously.  But, if they were a nicer shape and better made, conceptually there's not really anything to bitch about!  Your shirt and tie selection are perfectly respectable too, and indeed admirable for someone just moving from long-term student status to the workplace.

 

Regarding your weekend stuff, I think you're rather in the wrong place.  This is the "Classic Menswear" side.  You'll get better advice on that sort of thing in the "Streetwear and Denim" section.  Also, I NEVER go there.  Which might be a bonus.

 

P.S.  Your trousers are certainly slim.  But that's de rigeur, it seems, and nobody can tell your religion just yet, so enjoy. :)

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