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post #23206 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

It's for a wedding/groomsman.
If he's your groomsman, you presumably have a decent relationship with him. So simply say to him, "I'm getting all of my groomsmen neckties. You wear an extra-long tie?" And then you'll know what length tie he wears.

Despite what I said about giving clothing as gifts, it's okay for a groom to give his groomsmen neckties. Same way that I'd discourage giving your guy friends jewelry, but giving your groomsmen matching cuff links would be okay. Groomsmen gifts fall into a special category that way.

Oh, whenever I read here on SF that someone's getting married, I have to ask - you're not having your groomsmen all dress in matching outfits, are you? Please, for the love of Dog, tell me you're not making that mistake, no matter what the bride and/or wedding planner want. You have one groomsman who is the size of Herman Munster. You probably have another who's on the short and slight side. It's unlikely that the suit and/or tuxedo which looks best on one, will also look best on the other. Moreover, in looking at old wedding photos, I've never, ever thought to myself, "I wish all of grandpa's groomsmen had been wearing identical suits." So long as the groomsmen are dressed in the appropriate tone, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having them all match, and quite a bit of reason to avoid this.
post #23207 of 28546
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

Oh, whenever I read here on SF that someone's getting married, I have to ask - you're not having your groomsmen all dress in matching outfits, are you? Please, for the love of Dog, tell me you're not making that mistake, no matter what the bride and/or wedding planner want. You have one groomsman who is the size of Herman Munster. You probably have another who's on the short and slight side. It's unlikely that the suit and/or tuxedo which looks best on one, will also look best on the other. Moreover, in looking at old wedding photos, I've never, ever thought to myself, "I wish all of grandpa's groomsmen had been wearing identical suits." So long as the groomsmen are dressed in the appropriate tone, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having them all match, and quite a bit of reason to avoid this.

No, don't worry. I've just asked them to wear solid charcoal suits (which, surprisingly, only 1/3 owned, but other other 2 were open to buying), white shirts, and black shoes (I'd prefer brown but black is safer). And I of course will provide ties, non-matching, but color coordinated. I'm trying to fight the good fight against matching, but some compromises are necessary. The wedding-industrial complex is strong.

(The white shirt thing is actually a open issue because her dress is off-white and she asked if we could get off-white dress shirts.)

I was also pissed off the one wedding I've been in that I couldn't wear my own tuxedo because it was single button, peak lapel instead of 2 button, notch lapel, so I had to shell out $200 for a Men's Wearhouse rental that didn't fit.
post #23208 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

I was also pissed off the one wedding I've been in that I couldn't wear my own tuxedo because it was single button, peak lapel instead of 2 button, notch lapel, so I had to shell out $200 for a Men's Wearhouse rental that didn't fit.

Friggin' ridiculous.
post #23209 of 28546
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Don't worry, in lieu of a suit, he can wear a sweater facepalm.gif

That dress code is just insane.

+1
post #23210 of 28546
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

That dress code is just insane.
Any rule that ridiculous is typically justified on the grounds of safety. (You know, like some of the rules at the airport.)

"Studies show that men in black suits are 2% less likely to abduct children than are men in charcoal suits. Chase cares about our children's safety. Don't you?"
post #23211 of 28546
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Originally Posted by kevinwang1219 View Post

I've been really following a lot of forums regarding suits and style, but now I think I made a bad decision.  I am 23 years old with a banker position, so I need suits on a daily basis.  People say that Jos. Bank suits don't last and have a VERY boxy look.  I am 6'0, 190 lbs with an athletic build and broad shoulders.  In my opinion, my shoulders look extremely big with the new suits I just purchased, but my mom and gf said I am just paranoid.

I got the deal where it is 70% off and if you buy 3, you get 1 for free.  I thought that was a great deal and since I need a suit 5 days out of the week, and 4 suits seem really appealing.  But like with every suit I need it altered and can imagine each suit costing around 110 to 150 in alterations.  I can stick a lot more than a fist in my jacket.

I just want to know my options.  I just spent 900 dollars on 4 suits but I really don't like the boxy look and can still return them since i didn't do any alterations to them.  I just bought it today and am regretting my decision.  I have 1 suit in my closet from high school that I can still wear for now because I start the job tomorrow, but I would like opinions on the route to go.
The water's under the bridge. You should have come to this forum before you bought those suits man. Like the post above me, I too recommend Brooks Brothers. Just have one nice suit rather than plain garbage for $900. Yikes. Come here for advice before u buy something again. This place has some great people who will give u sound advice.
post #23212 of 28546
Had a salesman at Nordstrom tell me that I should only use the middle of the three holes on monk straps, and if I'm using the third hole I should be going down a half size. All my monks fit great in the last hole, any truth to this?
post #23213 of 28546
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Originally Posted by plainnerd View Post

Had a salesman at Nordstrom tell me that I should only use the middle of the three holes on monk straps, and if I'm using the third hole I should be going down a half size. All my monks fit great in the last hole, any truth to this?
If you like how your shoes fit, and you like how they look, then you have no problem.

Please don't let a department store salesperson cause you to second guess yourself.
post #23214 of 28546
I'm happy with the look and fit, just curious. Thanks.
post #23215 of 28546

What's the size of a pocket square?

post #23216 of 28546
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Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post

What's the size of a pocket square?

Generally, there are two sizes: 30x30cm (12x12in) and 35x35 (14x14in). Sometimes even 40x40cm, but that's really large and a little unusual.
post #23217 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post


Thanks for the advice. It's for a wedding/groomsman. I'd rather get him something that looks good on him instead of getting the same ties for everyone.

 

I got everyone different ties in my groom's party.  They are to wear the day of my wedding, so they aren't really a gift, as it is quite self serving.  I also bought them cheap ones from www.thetiebar.com (though, nice patterns, good selection; will tell you about quality in a few days!)  I sent each of them a selection of photos of ties that I would be happy with them wearing, and told them each to pick one.  There was one I was disappointed no one wanted, which speaks to Michael's point.  Anyway, If you approach it that way, then if a guy needs a longer tie, he'll probably tell you.

post #23218 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Sander View Post


Generally, there are two sizes: 30x30cm (12x12in) and 35x35 (14x14in). Sometimes even 40x40cm, but that's really large and a little unusual.

 

Thanks.  Seeing about getting some made on Etsy - found a good deal and will post a review on here later, if they're worthwhile - as I need 7 for my wedding and was hoping not to pay $25 or $40 each.  But, anyway, may need to give very specific instructions to the woman who makes them.

post #23219 of 28546
Luckily I only have 3 groomsmen. Keeps costs down. The stuff brides worry about is crazy. She wants me to have all the groomsmen buy the same white shirt so the whites aren't slightly different in photos. I'm hoping to talk her out of this because I want to wear a more expensive shirt than I'd be comfortable asking people to buy.

I really wish there were more photos of SF members' weddings that I could show her as a proof-of-concept.
post #23220 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

Luckily I only have 3 groomsmen. Keeps costs down. The stuff brides worry about is crazy. She wants me to have all the groomsmen buy the same white shirt so the whites aren't slightly different in photos. I'm hoping to talk her out of this because I want to wear a more expensive shirt than I'd be comfortable asking people to buy.

I really wish there were more photos of SF members' weddings that I could show her as a proof-of-concept.

 

Well if your wedding is after August 31st, you can refer her to my photos, of three guys in three different grey suits, with three different grey toned ties, wearing whichever white shirt they chose to buy, or already had.

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