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post #21946 of 29358
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Originally Posted by newguytosf View Post

 

Then I looked up pairing navy suits with tan shoes and it seems about half are convinced it can be a very sharp look and half are convinced it's breaking all the style rules.  What do you guys think of this combination? 

 

 

 

The Shoes

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It's fine, and the Cole Haan shoes are fine too.  They will tell you they suck, but if you know you will throw them out once they wear out, who cares?  

post #21947 of 29358
A question of ethics: A local Marshalls/Winners is selling a Brooks Brothers jacket, which a certain member is currently listing in the B&S forum with a 150% markup. Due to several identifying marks, I am absolutely sure this is the exact jacket currently hanging on the rack. Should I call him out?
post #21948 of 29358
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Originally Posted by pnin22 View Post

A question of ethics: A local Marshalls/Winners is selling a Brooks Brothers jacket, which a certain member is currently listing in the B&S forum with a 150% markup. Due to several identifying marks, I am absolutely sure this is the exact jacket currently hanging on the rack. Should I call him out?


My gut says no. People can charge whatever they want for their items. Hence why loads of people make big money selling not very good stuff that just happens to catch on as trendy or cool. I would leave the man to be and pray no one is dumb enough to fall for his tricks, or if they are that tj
hey have the coin to waste.
Just my $0.02.
post #21949 of 29358
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Originally Posted by aglose View Post


My gut says no. People can charge whatever they want for their items. Hence why loads of people make big money selling not very good stuff that just happens to catch on as trendy or cool. I would leave the man to be and pray no one is dumb enough to fall for his tricks, or if they are that tj
hey have the coin to waste.
Just my $0.02.

I agree. There is nothing unethical about this, other than that the seller does not appear to have purchased the item yet, which may not be available by the time the sale completes, thus wasting the buyer's time.

post #21950 of 29358
Most people sell on B&S to make money or clean out their closets; not for charity.
That being said, some of the nicer guys will proxy for no additional fees if there's an item someone wants.
post #21951 of 29358

I am noob.

 

I have a question for pros. When it comes to dress pants whether you guys do MTO or Off The Rack and alter them?

None of the OTR items fit me properly and sometime just hemming doesn't do any improvements.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

post #21952 of 29358
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Originally Posted by gtvisa2002 View Post

When it comes to dress pants whether you guys do MTO or Off The Rack and alter them?
If OTR fits you well, then feel free to buy OTR. And always bear in mind that there are many different "makes" and "fits" in discussing OTR pants. Just because one make of OTR is a less than ideal match for your body type, doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't others which would suit you better.

If OTR does not fit you well, then determine (1) how much it might cost in alterations to get OTR pants to fit you well; and (2) how the final result would stack up against buying MTM pants in the first place. Then weigh (1) and (2) against the cost difference between OTR + alterations, and MTM, and decide which is the most sensible approach.

As some of this is inherently subjective (ie. how good a result looks and feels, how much a given amount of money means to you, etc.), nobody can tell you what to do. You have to decide for yourself.
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None of the OTR items fit me properly and sometime just hemming doesn't do any improvements.
A skilled tailor can go far, far beyond simply hemming a pair of pants. If the only alteration you're thinking of is hemming, it's not surprising that you find it difficult to get a pair of OTR pants to fit you as well as you might like.

This is not to suggest that it's necessarily wise to spend large amounts of money on what amounts to major pants surgery - there is the old saw about silk purses and sows' ears. But there are lots of alterations beyond merely hemming your pants, which are still within the realm of the reasonable and affordable.
post #21953 of 29358
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


If OTR fits you well, then feel free to buy OTR. And always bear in mind that there are many different "makes" and "fits" in discussing OTR pants. Just because one make of OTR is a less than ideal match for your body type, doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't others which would suit you better.

If OTR does not fit you well, then determine (1) how much it might cost in alterations to get OTR pants to fit you well; and (2) how the final result would stack up against buying MTM pants in the first place. Then weigh (1) and (2) against the cost difference between OTR + alterations, and MTM, and decide which is the most sensible approach.

As some of this is inherently subjective (ie. how good a result looks and feels, how much a given amount of money means to you, etc.), nobody can tell you what to do. You have to decide for yourself.
A skilled tailor can go far, far beyond simply hemming a pair of pants. If the only alteration you're thinking of is hemming, it's not surprising that you find it difficult to get a pair of OTR pants to fit you as well as you might like.

This is not to suggest that it's necessarily wise to spend large amounts of money on what amounts to major pants surgery - there is the old saw about silk purses and sows' ears. But there are lots of alterations beyond merely hemming your pants, which are still within the realm of the reasonable and affordable.


Thanks for the inputs Michael. You point about weighing the options on cost and fit makes perfect sense. That's what I was getting to. Your next sentence clarified that.

 

On alterations other than hemming, how do I determine the right tailor. I always use local dry cleaners and they don't seem to get the point. They don't understand the idea of perfect fit.

If you could suggest some pointers that I need to look for when picking my tailor, that will be really helpful. Again thanks much.

post #21954 of 29358
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Originally Posted by gtvisa2002 View Post

On alterations other than hemming, how do I determine the right tailor. I always use local dry cleaners and they don't seem to get the point.
What I did some years back was post (over on AAAC, although I suppose one could do the same here) that I lived in Baltimore County, Maryland, and was wondering if anyone could recommend a good alterations tailor. Within a day or two, I had multiple recommendations.

Assuming you don't live within a 5 minute bike ride of the middle of nowhere, there's a decent chance you could start a thread asking for suggestions for a good local tailor, and get some results. Worth trying, at least.

You could also google around a little, looking for online reviews of local tailors, dry cleaners, etc. And lots of places, there's a local paper that does annual "Best of..." awards, where one category might well be "Best Local Place for Clothing Alterations." Heck, if there's a local menswear store, maybe they have a good tailor on staff, or could recommend one to you. Or maybe you have a friend, or a family member, whose clothes fit particularly well, and who wouldn't mind you asking whom he uses for alterations. These are just a few ideas.

Finding a competent local tailor is worth a little effort, but it's hardly rocket science. (Even rocket science isn't even rocket science anymore.) I'm confident that with a little time and thought you can come up with some leads.
post #21955 of 29358
Does anybody know the name of this type of collar?
post #21956 of 29358
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Originally Posted by pnin22 View Post

A question of ethics: A local Marshalls/Winners is selling a Brooks Brothers jacket, which a certain member is currently listing in the B&S forum with a 150% markup. Due to several identifying marks, I am absolutely sure this is the exact jacket currently hanging on the rack. Should I call him out?

On what grounds would you "call him out"? Should he pass it on at cost? The amount that he pays for it has no bearing on its value. If it is a winning proposition for a buyer then the buyer pays the price. Everyone wins.
post #21957 of 29358
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Originally Posted by pnin22 View Post

A question of ethics: A local Marshalls/Winners is selling a Brooks Brothers jacket, which a certain member is currently listing in the B&S forum with a 150% markup. Due to several identifying marks, I am absolutely sure this is the exact jacket currently hanging on the rack. Should I call him out?
I once bought an antique fountain pen from a local store. I then listed it for sale on a fountain pen site, and sold it for a profit.

Mind explaining to me just how my actions were ethically questionable? Because for the life of me, I don't see how I did anything wrong.

I mean, are you suggesting that just because two parties happen to visit the same website, they're somehow family, so it's morally wrong for one to profit off the other? Or are you arguing in support of some weird quasi-Utopian economic theory, whereby it's immoral to set a price in excess of one's cost? Or do you interpret some holy book as forbidding the sale of Brooks Brothers jackets for more than they sell for at Marshalls/Winners?
post #21958 of 29358
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

I once bought an antique fountain pen from a local store. I then listed it for sale on a fountain pen site, and sold it for a profit.

Mind explaining to me just how my actions were ethically questionable? Because for the life of me, I don't see how I did anything wrong.

I mean, are you suggesting that just because two parties happen to visit the same website, they're somehow family, so it's morally wrong for one to profit off the other? Or are you arguing in support of some weird quasi-Utopian economic theory, whereby it's immoral to set a price in excess of one's cost? Or do you interpret some holy book as forbidding the sale of Brooks Brothers jackets for more than they sell for at Marshalls/Winners?

Shit. This is the post which I wish I had written.
post #21959 of 29358

Likewise, feel free to purchase the jacket yourself and offer it for 125% of the cost, if you think the seller's proposed profit margin is so exorbitant.

post #21960 of 29358

Before I joined this website, I was unaware of the fact that you could get some nice suits at a discount so I ended up paying full retail prices on two of my RLBL suits. I want to slap myself in the face. I've seen some people pay less than 50% of what I paid. I want to punch myself in the face. This is what happens when you are uninformed. LML. 

 

By the way, they were black solid and navy blue solid. I want a charcoal. Do I just snoop around here?

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