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post #21511 of 28546

That tie is not lovely, but it's better.  Go with that. ;)

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Oh fuck no.

 

Luke, thank God you posted....

 

It's true that navy or grey is nicer and easier than black.  But the issue with black is more about aesthetics that social acceptability: it looks a bit washed out and greenish in bright light, usually, whereas dark blues tend to keep their hue in any light.  So wearing the black, if it's all you've got, is not a problem.  I can't say I like the cut of it (although it's hard to say when you're not wearing it), and the skinny lapels make me think of Justin Bieber (that's not a good thing, by the way).  But you are, presumably, a young fellow, and it is the fashion these days.  I doubt you'll lose marks for it.  So, as long as it fits, the suit is fine.  

 

But three things:

 

- Firstly, burn that skinny, floral, evil motherfucker of a tie.  Find something with a deep colour - burgundy, navy blue, even bottle green - that's either a solid colour, a very small pattern, or a subdued stripe.  And preferably between 3 and 3.5 inches wide at the widest point.  Not straight and skinny.  Again, you might see it on Bieber, and to some mothering older woman it might look boyish and endearing.  But to a gentleman over forty, it will just make you look like a cunt.  So wear an average-width tie.

 

- Secondly, if you're worried about the stark black and white contrast of your suit and shirt, you can always change the shirt.  Light blue, or a very narrow stripe, would be the obvious alternatives and soften the look a bit.  But keep it muted, and if white's the only formal shirt you've got, go with it.  The tie will add sufficient colour.  If you're a young man with very limited formal wardrobe, as we'd assume, then it's simple: pick the most formal shirt you have with the best collar!  No scruffy edges, no silly collar shapes.  A nice, neat, old farts' shirt that fits your neck and doesn't have dirt or holes in it.

 

- Thirdly, and this is a biggie: if you come to frequent this forum, it might well take over your life.  Shoes, son, shoes. (The following links are just examples of what these things look like)  You have a black suit, so black shoes are your only option.  They should preferably be captoe oxfords or wholecuts.  A plain or cap toe derby is acceptable -  although not as formal in my book - and the Norwegian split toe is quite common in America, and passes too.  Some people don't like brogues with formal wear, but I think they're fine.  Partial brogueing is slightly smarter.  Either way, get one of these.  If you're really desperate, yes you can get away with loafers, although monks are arguably a touch smarter.  But here's the thing:  you will polish them.  Polish the absolute fuck out of them.  And make sure you wash the polish off your hands and clean your nails.  Oh, and with a black suit and black shoes, you'd better wear black socks - especially if you only have loafers.

 

 

Good luck.  Your journey to being the best dress man at work, starts here. 

I would have to agree with a lot of what Mimo has said here.  If you need advice on how to mix and match suits with shirts and ties for future reference, feel free to visit my blog post category on this entitled 'color theory' at http://suitupdressup.wordpress.com/category/color-theory/

Please let me know if you have any questions! 

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Go with the second tie- but try to find a discount clothing shop and pick up an inexpensive tie if you have a chance.  That one is not great but it's better than the "floral evil motherfucker of a tie" that looks like it was made from a blouse my mom used to wear. 

 

We're busting you balls a little, but we really do want to help you out.  I'm gad you're asking for some guidance- please feel welcome to troll the threads and start learning from the guys here- they know their stuff! 

post #21514 of 28546
2 questions from a fresh grad.

- So I got my suit, and a few BB ESFs. I realized I lack a good rotation of plain shirts though. Looking @ Tyrwhitt since they are most available to me.
Judging from search results, the opinion is divided, but is their quality & extra slim fit decent enough? My other option is to go local MTM (Singapore), but the quality seems sub-par (polycotton wtf) unless I'm willing to double my budget

- Is there a source of well-priced ties to start my tie wardrobe? All I have is one 2.5" navy repp and a 2.5" cotton knit grenadine from Muji. I did go through thetiebar but heard differing reviews on their items.
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If I was looking for a good canvas messenger bag to take back and forth to class with a 17" laptop and a few books where would be a good place to start? I also considered leather but then thought of how beat up it would get in a dorm and out on campus. Any advice is very much appreciated.
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Ernest Alexander or Property of for waxed canvas, Mission Workshop if u want to go the tech route. Definitely can hold mbp + book since I tried on all 3 brands whilst shopping.

I don't mind proxying property of as well since its way cheaper in my country
post #21517 of 28546

Cole Haan "Air Madison" Oxford, buy it?

I was thinking of purchasing these shoes in burgundy, what do you think?

 

 

 

'Air Madison' Oxford

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/cole-haan-air-madison-oxford/3225678?origin=category&BaseUrl=Cap+Toe

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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

Go with the second tie- but try to find a discount clothing shop and pick up an inexpensive tie if you have a chance.  That one is not great but it's better than the "floral evil motherfucker of a tie" that looks like it was made from a blouse my mom used to wear. 

Go to Marshall's and pick through the ties to find a Brooks Brothers irregular tie. It'll probably about $15, but it will be better than any other $15 tie you will find.
post #21519 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

Ernest Alexander or Property of for waxed canvas, Mission Workshop if u want to go the tech route. Definitely can hold mbp + book since I tried on all 3 brands whilst shopping.

I don't mind proxying property of as well since its way cheaper in my country

Thanks for the advice. When you say tech route I take it as meaning a big laptop. I will be studying computer science in school and will probably by carrying a 17" laptop so the only bag that would work for me would be the mission Workshop she'd line if I am reading these correctly.
Edited by aglose - 5/6/13 at 9:23pm
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Flame,  Tyrwhitt are fine.  Personally I prefer them to Lewin - they wear a bit lighter but the collars and construction seem resilent enough.  With ready to wear shirts, you're always going to find that one suits more than another.  The good thing about these brands is that they sell a large selection online, and always have something on clearance.  So I'd say go for it - my Tyrwhitt shirts came from an outlet and with a 4-for whatever deal or something, worked out about $25 each.  Edit: ties - thetiebar.com has a huge selection; they're not the greatest ties you'll ever own, but it's easy to use and if you're on a budget, it's a great way to get your basics done quick.  I have a couple myself and wear them.

 

Rick, no.  Really.  $250 for plastic-soled shoes?  They might be comfortable, but the leather's awful, they're one step up from sneakers and they look like shit.  Get some Allen Edmonds on sale for the same price, or read a few shoe threads here and check out other cheap options for surprisingly decent shoes: Meermin from Spain, Loake's L1 range (English company, but cheaper range made in India), and a whole lot of others for around that price or below.  They're all way better than that stinker.


Edited by mimo - 5/7/13 at 7:42am
post #21521 of 28546
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Originally Posted by aglose View Post

Thanks for the advice. When you say tech route I take it as meaning a big laptop. I will be studying computer science in school and will probably by carrying a 17" laptop so the only bag that would work for me would be the mission Workshop she'd line if I am reading these correctly.
Haha no, I meant the style. Some prefer a leather bag since its more dressed up, some prefer ballistic nylon used by mission workshop since its a very durable technical fabric. There has been a recent fashion trend towards technical fabrics and function meets style, like outlier.cc and Arcteryx veilance. The MW bags fits these styles better, hence the "tech" tag.

Tbh your bag choice shld depend on what you wear normally. Also waxed cotton is IMO a happy medium= can be dressed up or down
post #21522 of 28546

Who is "Vox"?

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Who is "Vox"?

check here and here
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Who is "Vox"?

Hahahahaha--time for that again?
post #21525 of 28546
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Originally Posted by Flame View Post

Ernest Alexander or Property of for waxed canvas, Mission Workshop if u want to go the tech route. Definitely can hold mbp + book since I tried on all 3 brands whilst shopping.

I don't mind proxying property of as well since its way cheaper in my country

With respect to Property Of, at retail you can definitely get better quality than that. I have a few Property Of items (tote and card wallets) and they have not held up too well.
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