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post #21406 of 28237
Ignorant SW&D poster here. I'm heading to a couple weddings this summer. Since I haven't worn my suits in years, I ended up selling them because they were gathering dust. That said, I have some stray blazers in "off" colors (well, not really off, but like a weird shade of grey, and a grey with a very faint print, but something that I don't have matching pants for).
ANYWAY, what is the rule about mixing colors (pants and jacket) when it comes to suits? Doable or is that a no-no? I've seen it done in a very casual setting - and I know weddings are more formal but I think these weddings are casual enough to let it slide. If acceptable...what colors go best with what (especially a grey suit jacket)?
post #21407 of 28237

^ Generally, wearing a suit jacket separately (without matching trousers) is frowned upon here. It can look good if the suit jacket is more casual - either made from casual weave (I believe people wear fresco or hopsack as blazer-suits here) or material (tweed, linen), has casual details (patch pockets, buttons in a different color than the suit) etc. Also, a navy suit jacket is going to look better separately than a gray one (gray sportcoats are a minefield, anyway).

 

The classic pants to wear with a sportcoat (especially tweed) are gray flannels. In summer, something lighter like a tropical wool would work well. A nice option for summer is also cream or white linen trousers, if the wedding is casual enough that you can wear linen.

 

For other combinations, check this excellent thread by jrd: http://www.styleforum.net/t/317329/jrds-guide-to-coherent-sportcoat-combinations/0_100

 

The question is though, if you are going to _multiple_ weddings, why not just get a suit? Suits are much easier to do right than sportcoats.

post #21408 of 28237

GQ my arse.

 

Firstly, I apologise for mis-counting buttons - I wear mine at about the fourth button then - i.e. the third excluding the collar button.  My mistake.  But still around a third of the length of the loose front blade.  Certainly less than half.  The Michael Douglas picture, apart from the obvious horrors, is not too bad in terms of the tie clip, but borderline at least.  I'd go a bit higher, his is right on the limit of sense.

 

There is a practical reason for this.  Most tie clips, in order to serve their functional purpose, have a small chain and T-bar or similar, to anchor the whole assembly to the button hole of the shirt.  This has a certain amount of flexibility by virtue of its length.  The lower the button hole to which it is attached, the longer the chain would have to be to account for your movement, especially if the jacket is buttoned.  Really, try it.  Sit down, stand up, move around a bit,  If the tie clip is attached lower down, it will tug more and probably snap at some point, making the whole apparatus rather redundant.

 

So the happy compromise between securing enough of the tie, and maintaining normal movement without breaking it, is right there.

 

As for the fastened jacket/waistcoat etc, I think another point has been missed: one's tie doesn't just tend to move out of place in the wind.  Unless you're fiddling with the damn thing eternally, it also tends sometimes to move about a bit under your jacket or waistcoat if you're moving around a lot yourself.  So fastening one's jacket or wearing a three piece doesn't obviate the need for a tie clip - it can increase it.  As for whether it's visible, that's rather dependent on the cut of the clothing in question.  But whatever that may be, it is after all the visible part of the tie that one wishes to keep firmly in place, and if the tie clip is low down under the waistcoat or on the button point of the jacket, again there is a risk that the clothing over it will tug against it and break the securing chain.

 

Therefore, wear it about a third of the way down, and probably just visible i.e. free of the jacket button or waistcoat sliding and pulling against it..  Or don't wear one at all.  I generally don't because I find them a bit flash.  I don't really like them.   But if the  tie is too short for my big neck/preferred knot and I need to secure the short back blade out of sight, and the whole tie to be sure it remains unseen, then I wear one.  And that's where I wear it, and why.  So there.

post #21409 of 28237

What colors correspond to AEs cognac? I have some mcatvishes and I am in search of a belt to be worn with chinos, etc 

post #21410 of 28237
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What colors correspond to AEs cognac? I have some mcatvishes and I am in search of a belt to be worn with chinos, etc 
While belt and shoes should, as a general thing, broadly match - for example, black belt with black shoes, and brown belt with brown shoes - there is no need to seek a perfect match.

If your shoes are light-to-medium brown, for example, and your belt is a mid-range brown, it's close enough. Indeed, some might even suggest that seeking out a perfect color match is excessive, and runs the risk of being perceived as overly "matchy-matchy."

There are parallels involving matching sock color to shoe color, or pocket square color to necktie color. Where close enough may, at times, be preferable to exact.
post #21411 of 28237

^^

 

Word.

post #21412 of 28237

I'm going to a wedding as a +1 of a bridesmaid. I need help matching pants to my blazer options.  I have two blazer options pictured below (The second one is black).  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna wear a white shirt and a white PS with black edges. 

 

I don't want to be flashy so no red pants. 

The bridesmaid's dress is purple. The wedding colors being purple and grey.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

post #21413 of 28237
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Originally Posted by wing8tesqw View Post

I'm going to a wedding as a +1 of a bridesmaid. I need help matching pants to my blazer options.  I have two blazer options pictured below (The second one is black).  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna wear a white shirt and a white PS with black edges. 

 

I don't want to be flashy so no red pants. 

The bridesmaid's dress is purple. The wedding colors being purple and grey.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Does it have to be one of these 2 blazers? Do you already own them, or planning on purchasing or renting one?

 

Also, can you tell us a bit more about the wedding (time of day, formality, etc). Weddings usually call for wearing a suit.

 

The first one is OK, but I'm not sure it is formal enough for a wedding, especially an evening one. Either way though, I think mid-gray pants are your best option, outside of a suit.

I'm not a huge fan of black blazers, but I guess, if you already own one, an evening wedding is the place to wear it.

post #21414 of 28237

I do own these blazers already. My current suits are all winter weight.  Budget not strong enough to invest in a suit I'd really really  want at this time. I'm thinking 200 max.

 

 

 

The nuptials are in the morning and the reception in the afternoon to early evening. All takes place at an Italian restaurant.  California location

 

Formality is business casual( i think).  The wedding party is definitely formal.
 

post #21415 of 28237

Better question. Why is purple a color in EVERY wedding in the past few years? I think I've been to one out of maybe five that didn't have purple.

 

 

 

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I'm not a huge fan of black blazers, but I guess, if you already own one, an evening wedding is the place to wear it.

My thoughts exactly.

post #21416 of 28237

My prom colors were purple too. Damn that was a loooong time ago...

 

Q: If I get mid-grey pants, do I wear a blue shirt or stick to white?

 

 

 

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Better question. Why is purple a color in EVERY wedding in the past few years? I think I've been to one out of maybe five that didn't have purple.

 

post #21417 of 28237
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Better question. Why is purple a color in EVERY wedding in the past few years? I think I've been to one out of maybe five that didn't have purple.

Mine didn't. Thank fucking God.

It sure does seem that way though.
post #21418 of 28237
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Originally Posted by wing8tesqw View Post

My prom colors were purple too. Damn that was a loooong time ago...

 

Q: If I get mid-grey pants, do I wear a blue shirt or stick to white?

I would go blue over white 90% of the time. If it's not your wedding, I'd wear the blue shirt. You'll find that to be the common ruling around here.

 

 

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Mine didn't. Thank fucking God.

It sure does seem that way though.
 
 
It's terrible. I only own two purple pieces of clothing, and one purple tie. I won't ever wear the purple tie or the purple shirt I don't think and the third is this pair of pants. It's quite possible I will never wear them due to the weather in Phoenix and me not knowing how to wear that color. But it looked different and far enough from normal purple I wanted to give it a try.
post #21419 of 28237

I was wondering where you guys get your laces? I have a pair brown wing tips that I need new laces for but the shoe cobblers here have some flimsy shoe laces, they're stretchy and thin.... Preferably want something thicker and more durable.

post #21420 of 28237
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Looking at some shoes and I see some excellent colors like GG's Racing Green. But what the heck do you wear these with? It seems like they'd only go well with the staples (navy/grey) and green.

 

Same for some Carmina loafers from Skoak's website. Gorgeous but not sure what I'd wear the green loafers with.

 

Anyone have any ideas for green suede loafers or GG's Racing Green?

Deep browns would look pretty good with either.

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