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post #21331 of 28797

The French say "my name is insouciance"?  Weird.

 

Anyway, what I forgot to add was that there should be some gap.  And maybe a "hint of metal" as you put it, is OK.  But really, if you can see the whole thing and/or shirt and tie, then something's not quite right.

post #21332 of 28797
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

The French say "my name is insouciance"?  Weird.

 

Anyway, what I forgot to add was that there should be some gap.  And maybe a "hint of metal" as you put it, is OK.  But really, if you can see the whole thing and/or shirt and tie, then something's not quite right.


I was being purposely malapropic with a phrase (hence the winky thingy)...I'm sure you were expecting "je ne sais quoi"...I thought it was clever...c'est la vie...jokes like fashion choices sometimes fall flat...non?

post #21333 of 28797

Haha...OK that's kind of what I thought...we're on the same page after all!

post #21334 of 28797
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Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post

Skip this if you are not interested in minutiae of shirt measurement.



Now and then I am asked to measure a shirt like we measure a suit; shoulder seam to shoulder seam, and shoulder seam to end of sleeve. I have already provided actual collar and sleeve measurements (measured the traditional way) and usually have provided P2P. In my experience, if a shirt has the correct neck-sleeve size for me then the shoulder seam falls at the right spot. That is 100% of the time.

I know that the shoulder seam to end of sleeve measurement is unnecessary. If the sleeve length in the collar-sleeve size format is your sleeve length then the end of the sleeve will be in the right place at your wrist.

The question is whether the shoulder seam to shoulder seam measurement is of any use to anyone. Do any of you find that some OTR shirts which are of the correct size (collar-sleeve actual measurements) actually do not fit you because the shoulder seam to shoulder seam width is too wide or too narrow?

I actually find the 16-33 slim fits and extra slim fits that my neck and arms need from Brooks Brothers are slightly too wide in the shoulder. Maybe 1/4"-1/2" on each side. But so far it does not bother me enough to do anything about it.

post #21335 of 28797

I tried searching, but to no avail. I really do not know how waist suppression work, so here's my question:

 

Can a waist suppression on a suit jacket be undone? If yes, would it go back to the way it exactly was before the suppression was made? 

post #21336 of 28797
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Originally Posted by wohwoh View Post

I tried searching, but to no avail. I really do not know how waist suppression work, so here's my question:

Can a waist suppression on a suit jacket be undone? If yes, would it go back to the way it exactly was before the suppression was made? 

It depends on whether the original material was cut off or left inside the lining. Smart tailors would probably leave a little more room for "undoing" the suppression. Only looking inside the lining would tell.
post #21337 of 28797
Hello all,

I was wondering if these would go both dress pants and jeans/chinos.

Thanks a lot
post #21338 of 28797
IMHO, the contrast sole edge makes them a little more casual, but they would go perfectly with chinos and jeans.
post #21339 of 28797

A D&G jacket size 44 reg will have chest measure 42" whats up with that??

post #21340 of 28797
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Originally Posted by Bartleby Trout View Post

Hello all,

I was wondering if these would go both dress pants and jeans/chinos.

Thanks a lot

 

Depends what you mean by "dress pants".  You couldn't really wear these with a formal suit, but then if you were wearing something light in colour, like a beige linen suit, it would fly OK.  These are fun, casual shoes, but could still pair with classic "dress" wear if it is light and informal.

post #21341 of 28797
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Originally Posted by wohwoh View Post

I tried searching, but to no avail. I really do not know how waist suppression work, so here's my question:

 

Can a waist suppression on a suit jacket be undone? If yes, would it go back to the way it exactly was before the suppression was made? 

I second the comment above- it would seem to me that of the fabric was not cut out during the original alteration that it could be taken back out.

 

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Originally Posted by Bartleby Trout View Post

Hello all,

I was wondering if these would go both dress pants and jeans/chinos.

Thanks a lot

Good comments on this so far- they are nice enough for slacks, linen, etc, but not good for a proper suit.  Informal dress would be fine. 

post #21342 of 28797
Really helpful answers, thanks everyone.
post #21343 of 28797
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Originally Posted by acecow View Post

It depends on whether the original material was cut off or left inside the lining. Smart tailors would probably leave a little more room for "undoing" the suppression. Only looking inside the lining would tell.

I meant like work casualish. Dress pants with button down shirt and tie (or no tie). Sleeves probably rolled up.
post #21344 of 28797
I have a question about formal pumps. I always thought patent leather was the convention for black tie, but seeing this picture from Vox's tumblr has me reconsidering. As there's no mistaking formal pumps for standard dress shoes that have been polished up for the occasion, would calf be preferable? I don't have any fondness for patent and I feel patent pumps might be a bit in-your-face.
post #21345 of 28797
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Originally Posted by Displacement View Post

I have a question about formal pumps. I always thought patent leather was the convention for black tie, but seeing this picture from Vox's tumblr has me reconsidering. As there's no mistaking formal pumps for standard dress shoes that have been polished up for the occasion, would calf be preferable? I don't have any fondness for patent and I feel patent pumps might be a bit in-your-face.

I've seen formal pumps in both patent and calf. I personally prefer calf, as I can't stand the idea that my shoes have been coated with plastic. I think either one is appropriate. If you polish the calf at the beginning of the evening, they will shine almost as much as patent.

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