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Edited by Fox Arthur - 2/24/13 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by Scalable View Post

How do you guys manage to tie your shoelaces without having your neatly-tucked shirt get all pulled out of shape in the back?

 

I do the military tuck with my shirts and always wear a belt, but whenever I bend down, I can feel my shirttails rising from beneath my trousers, eager to escape. When I get up, the shirt back has usually ballooned significantly.

 

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Originally Posted by usctrojans31 View Post


The simple answer is that your shirt does not fit you well. Where are the armholes of the shirt? They should be right under your armpit, which allows you 360 degree mobility, which also prevents untucking from simple movements.

 

I was going to suggest the same thing as USC has.  If you shirt is tailored properly this will greatly reduce your problem.   It's only $15ish to get you shirt tailored, so think about getting 1 or 2 done each payday. 

 

However- if you won't be doing that there are other solutions:

When dressing, put on your pants but don't zip them up yet.  Then tie your shoes (double knot) and then stand up and tuck your shirt, then finish your pants and belt. 

We also will use shirt stays in the military to keep the shirt tight (but I don't do it in my civilian clothes).  We attach the top of the stay to the pleat in the shirt (on both sides-front and back) and then cross them in an X around your legs and attach the bottom clips to the socks.  This keeps the shirt tight- but you will be uncomfortable and lose leg hair. 

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I'm looking for a pair of double monks for around $400.  I am a 9E on a Brannock device and in the Allen Edmonds 1-511 last.  I've considered the Howard Yount model but I've heard bolognese construction is not quite as durable as I'd like.  The Neumora is an option, of course, but I'd like to hear what else is available.

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Originally Posted by Doktor Corn View Post

I'm looking for a pair of double monks for around $400.  I am a 9E on a Brannock device and in the Allen Edmonds 1-511 last.  I've considered the Howard Yount model but I've heard bolognese construction is not quite as durable as I'd like.  The Neumora is an option, of course, but I'd like to hear what else is available.

 

What about these? http://www.carmina.telemaco.es/articulo.asp?idarticulo=4369270

 

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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

 

 

I was going to suggest the same thing as USC has.  If you shirt is tailored properly this will greatly reduce your problem.   It's only $15ish to get you shirt tailored, so think about getting 1 or 2 done each payday. 

 

However- if you won't be doing that there are other solutions:

When dressing, put on your pants but don't zip them up yet.  Then tie your shoes (double knot) and then stand up and tuck your shirt, then finish your pants and belt. 

We also will use shirt stays in the military to keep the shirt tight (but I don't do it in my civilian clothes).  We attach the top of the stay to the pleat in the shirt (on both sides-front and back) and then cross them in an X around your legs and attach the bottom clips to the socks.  This keeps the shirt tight- but you will be uncomfortable and lose leg hair. 

just wondering, what is it that you would ask to have done by the tailor? 

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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

 

What about these? http://www.carmina.telemaco.es/articulo.asp?idarticulo=4369270

 

Those are absolutely gorgeous!  I didn't realize I could order directly from Carmina.  I only worry about the fit since returns overseas are a chore; I know the Inca last runs wide, but is it a true equivalent to a US E width?  I know there's a thread specifically for Carmina sizing from Google searches, but I haven't made my way through the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by bik2101 View Post

just wondering, what is it that you would ask to have done by the tailor? 

Just tell the tailor that you want to have more mobility with your arms. Basically, tell him exactly what you told us here and he will let you know what he can do to solve the problem. Just make sure that you find a decent tailor first.

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Originally Posted by biged781 View Post

Noob opinion incoming; I can't imagine pinstripes looking good on an odd jacket.  I sat here for a few minutes trying to visualize it, but I can only see it working as a suit.

Definitely this.

You could maybe, *maybe* pull off a chalkstripe with jeans, but it would be very #menswear, and 95% chance it looks godawful.
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Originally Posted by Doktor Corn View Post

I'm looking for a pair of double monks for around $400.  I am a 9E on a Brannock device and in the Allen Edmonds 1-511 last.  I've considered the Howard Yount model but I've heard bolognese construction is not quite as durable as I'd like.  The Neumora is an option, of course, but I'd like to hear what else is available.

 

Taking a guess at your UK size being 8.5F or FX (in these makers anyway), the following options are available in your size in stock, and ship to the US for about $30.  I've dealt with both companies, their shipping is quick and they are very helpful.  

 

In your case, it might be best to use Pediwear as they ship via EMS, which means you'll receive them via USPS and are more likely to get away without customs and brokerage fees.  Herring use DHL, who are a bit faster, but you know better than I do how that works for you.

 

The prices range from roughly $300-$500

 

http://herringshoes.co.uk/product-info.php?&shoeid=5374&colourid=2848&brandid=6

 

http://herringshoes.co.uk/product-info.php?&colset=1&styleid=1421&shoeid=5197&brandid=6&catid=129&oldcolid=2713&stype=0&colourid=2943

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/4587.php

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/5292.php

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/5282.php

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/alfred-sargent/products/5270.php

 

 

I would also second the Carmina recommendation above on what I've heard, but I've not dealt with them personally.

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Curious about any learned gentleman's opinion of this suit?

 

http://www.gilt.com/sale/men/michael-hainey-sale/product/171366603-belvest-mini-check-suit

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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post


We also will use shirt stays in the military to keep the shirt tight (but I don't do it in my civilian clothes).  We attach the top of the stay to the pleat in the shirt (on both sides-front and back) and then cross them in an X around your legs and attach the bottom clips to the socks.  This keeps the shirt tight- but you will be uncomfortable and lose leg hair. 

This type of item also works very well - http://www.militaryuniformsupply.com/military-dress-rubber-belt-shirt-stay

I do not find it uncomfortable. There are only a few shirts I wear it with because tailoring is not justified for my more casual shirts. But as others have said, the best solution is to make sure your dress shirt fits properly to begin with.
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Originally Posted by bik2101 View Post

just wondering, what is it that you would ask to have done by the tailor? 


Just ask to have it tailored, they will know what needs done- but for me, they usually take in the side seam and raise the arm hole.  The arm hole is key to keeping the shirt tucked in properly.  

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Originally Posted by Touching Cloth View Post

Curious about any learned gentleman's opinion of this suit?
Excessively slim-fitting and ridiculously short.

Admittedly, I'm no fan of slim-fitting suits, but some just strike me as being worse than others. This one looks worse than most. Even on the slender model, the pants on this suit are laughably short and overly snug. And the jacket length is equally silly.

In fairness, the mini-check pattern is actually quite nicely represented here. Also, it lacks a ticket pocket, and since I generally dislike ticket pockets, I'll give it points for that omission.

I can't speak in detail to the construction quality of the suit, without actually examining the suit.

It's explicitly described as a "Long-sleeve super 160's wool two-button single-breasted mini check suit." Which gives rise to the question, "Are there so many _short_ sleeve suits out there that it's truly necessary to point out this suit's long-sleeve nature?" smile.gif

The super 160s wool part is, I suspect, more a marketing hook than anything else. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with Super 160s wool - although, all things being equal, it will tend to wear much faster and less well than would a more mainstream wool, like Super 120s. But many suit buyers who know just enough to catch the occasional buzzword, but not quite enough to be able to meaningfully evaluate suit quality, will read "Super 160s," and figure "Wow, that's, like, 40 numbers better than the other suit's Super 120s wool!"

Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, I don't think very highly of this suit. But I'm sure there will be some folks here at SF who love it. If only because there's almost no article of clothing which someone at SF won't say could look good.

So, what is your opinion of the suit? And why do you think that about it? It seems only fair that in asking others for opinions about an item, you speak up and express your own take on the item. Learned gentleman, or not.
--
Michael
Edited by 12345Michael54321 - 2/22/13 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Excessively slim-fitting and ridiculously short.

Admittedly, I'm no fan of slim-fitting suits, but some just strike me as being worse than others. This one looks worst than most. Even on the slender model, the pants on this suit are laughably short and overly snug. And the jacket length is equally silly.

In fairness, notch lapels may not be a terrible idea, particularly on fashion suits intended primarily for social situations. (I don't love the lapels, but I suppose they're in keeping with the overall nature of the suit.) And the mini-check pattern is actually quite nicely represented here. Also, it lacks a ticket pocket, and since I generally dislike ticket pockets, I'll give it points for that omission.

I can't speak in detail to the construction quality of the suit, without actually examining the suit.

It's explicitly described as a "Long-sleeve super 160's wool two-button single-breasted mini check suit." Which gives rise to the question, "Are there so many _short_ sleeve suits out there that it's truly necessary to point out this suit's long-sleeve nature?" smile.gif

The super 160s wool part is, I suspect, more a marketing hook than anything else. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with Super 160s wool - although, all things being equal, it will tend to wear much faster and less well than would a more mainstream wool, like Super 120s. But many suit buyers who know just enough to catch the occasional buzzword, but not quite enough to be able to meaningfully evaluate suit quality, will read "Super 160s," and figure "Wow, that's, like, 40 numbers better than the other suit's Super 120s wool!"

Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, I don't think very highly of this suit. But I'm sure there will be some folks here at SF who love it. If only because there's almost no article of clothing which someone at SF won't say could look good.

So, what is your opinion of the suit? And why do you think that about it? It seems only fair that in asking others for opinions about an item, you speak up and express your own take on the item. Learned gentleman, or not.
--
Michael

 

Well, we'll soon find out. I bought it with the hopes of evaluating it for a wedding (and all-around) suit. (I don't need suits for professional purposes as I work in silicon valley).

 

Fully laughed at the bizarre need to point out that it's long-sleeved as well.

 

I do prefer shorter, slimmer fitting garments, so I'm actually chuffed that you describe it that way. ;)

 

The lapel width is not an ideal for me, but will be best judged when wearing. Notched, however, is my preference. I find it hard to discern how the shoulders will wear on me without seeing it in person, and I know Belvest has a variety of fits.

 

What I do love is the reputation Belvest has for quality, the price and the fabric (not the 160s nature of it, but the lovely looking small check pattern which seems a perfect way to add a little interest to a dark gray suit). Since I won't be wearing it all that often, I'm not so worried about the potentially less-than-durable nature of Super 160s.

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New the site, had a quick question for everyone...the advice is much appreciated!  

 

I have a business casual dress requirement for an interview.  I was wondering what colors (shirt/tie/pants) would work with a brown/tan blazer like the one in the link below.  How would a sweater look with a shirt/tie and coat?     http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_297868

 

 

 

Thanks again for the help.

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