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Hello all,

 

I'm new here, but have been looking to this site for quite some time for tips on improving my wardrobe. I've got a few interviews for scholarships and study abroad programs coming up and am looking to pick up a grenadine tie or two to go with my outfit. I was wondering if anyone could weigh in on grenadine ties by Turnbull & Asser vs. Drake's. I've found a few in colors that would work and the difference between the brands is about 10 GBP. Any advice on which of these to choose or for any other brands to check out would be greatly appreciated.

 

-Monty

Hi all,

i like to wear slim fitting trousers as i have very slim legs. I purchased these Benjamin Mid Grey trousers the other day online and not sure if i like the fit (as in not slim enough for my liking), what is your opinion on these and should i get them tailored in?

My EP and HY trousers fit slimmer in my opinion.

many thanks

Sam Hober.

(He'll probably want to send me 3 or 4 of his Grenadine Grossa ties for my having mentioned him here. But I'd feel funny accepting more than 2. Even if my birthday is coming up in just 3 1/2 more weeks, and it's a big, important birthday.)

(You hear that, Sam Hober? I will not accept more than 2 of your Grenadine Grossa ties. Say, one in navy, and one in charcoal. So don't expect me to also accept a purple one. In 61" length and 3.75" width. Because I'd probably tell you that the third tie is just too much. Unless you really insisted, because I wouldn't want to be rude. I'm serious about this.)

I'm a bit familiar with Sam Hober. I was initially turned off by having to choose my own construction as I don't know what would be optimal for a grenadine grossa tie. Assuming cost is no object, What is the best construction option?
 

I'm not sure how well Sam, David's daughter, makes ties, but you know, they'd certainly be cute.

 

As far as grenadine, yeah, Hober is the best around. Panta has some very good ones as well, but I'm not sure if they're carrying any at the moment.

 

One of the awesome things about dealing with David is that he's super communicative. He'll give you all the advice you need willingly. With my grenadine grossas, I had 55 inches (a bit shorter since they're best tied with a FIH instead of a half-winsdor), 3.6 inches and regular wool lining.

It depends.

What's best for one person, and for one type of tie, may not be best for the next person or for a different type of tie.

If you lack sufficient understanding to determine, based on your specific needs and likes, which construction options are best for you, then I'd suggest you either (1) devote time and effort to educating yourself on matters both subtle and gross of necktie construction; or (2) choose the tie you like, and accept the "default" options, deviating - if at all - only after consultation with the tie maker, and only in pretty obvious ways (like specifying several inches extra tie length, if a standard length necktie is clearly too short for you).

In most cases, option #2 is both easier, and will yield a superior tie. ("Superior," because unless you really know what you're doing, a multitude of opportunities to choose "options" tends to become a multitude of opportunities to screw up.)

Regardless, go to Hober. I ordered one with all the default options and then used that as a basis for further experimentation (length, width, lining, etc). That's one option that you simply will not have with any other company.
 

I have a v neck sweater with a yellow shirt under. I have these new black and yellow shoes I want to wear but idont know what kind of pants or color should I wear with them? Any help?

Both brands are held in highest regard by the cognoscenti, so it's mostly down to personal choice. Much as I like the guys at Drakes, I would probably go with Turnbull & Asser, which I consider the classic grenadine brand (among other things, they provided Sean Connery with the grenadines he wore in the early Bond films).

Whether they are slim enough or not depends on how you are going to use them. If you're planning on using them with sport jackets and blazers, they are about as slim as you can go without throwing the whole balance off; if, on the other hand, you're planning on using them with tees and tank tops, they could definitely stand to be slimmed down some more. In both cases, you need to have them hemmed, but I guess that goes without saying ...

See how the pockets are protruding out, and those rumples across the front of your hips - those indicate these trousers are in fact too small. You can clearly see the poor things stretching and straining across the front - this should not be the case, even in slim fitting trousers, and those pockets should lie flat, giving you a clean line down the sides of your legs. You could probably wear more tapered legs if you must (though it's hard to tell until you've hemmed them), but this pair are too small for you higher up.


I think it says on Hober's website somewhere that the standard construction they recommend for grenadines is 4 fold, lined (as opposed to 3 fold lined for most other types of silk). That's what I have and they're great.


Doesn't sound promising, but it's hard to tell what you're talking about. Post some pics maybe?

Just tell him that and he will give you a "standard" make. He's great, don't feel uncomfortable.

Good evening (Because it's evening here :D)

Today I have two question that need you to enlighten for me:

1. Is it a compulsion to wear a tie that match a pocket square in term of colour, fabric etc?

2. In a tropical summer, can I wear a tie with a dress shirt without a suit jacket? Does it look ludicrous?

1. Your pocket square shouldn't match anything, unless it's white linen and a white shirt. Otherwise, it should coordinate, but not match.
2. Don't wear a tie without a jacket, you will look like either a waiter or a child. Neither is a good thing. Get some warmer weather jackets (linen, unlined open weaves, etc), and leave the tie at home if necessary.

Pocket square should NOT match in color, pattern, or (ideally) texture, though the last one can be tough.

It is not recommended to wear a tie without a jacket.

Thank you for quickly responding, I got it :)