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post #19861 of 28507
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Originally Posted by dustinmyself View Post

whats a good "summer tie"?
Too broad a question. 
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Would Cashmere work?
Given the right circumstances, anything's possible. But I tend to think of cashmere (or wool ties, generally) as more winter, than summer.
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(would be wearing with a linen suit, and i don't think a linen tie would be optimal, right?)
Ah, now you've at least narrowed it down a little.

I would prefer not to wear a linen tie with a linen suit. It could be done, sure. But generally speaking, I don't think it tends to be the best combination.

With a linen suit, there's actually nothing fundamentally wrong with the tried and true silk necktie. The textures tend to be different enough to keep things interesting, and I don't associate silk with winter, the way I sort of associate cashmere with winter.

A more definite recommendation of a good "summer tie" would depend on factors you haven't mentioned, such as the color of the suit, your geographic location, the setting where the suit and tie will be worn, your choice of shirt (collar, color, and so forth), your coloring, etc. Although, of course, certain colors are typically associated more strongly with summer, than they are with winter, and this could influence one's choice of summer tie, as well.

BTW, I recently purchased a Brooks Brothers navy blazer, that's 37% silk, 33% linen, and 30% wool. With that sucker, I figure I'm ready for any type of tie and any season of the year. smile.gif
post #19862 of 28507

i want something textured, that's why i was steering away from silk.

 

cotton would work, but i was leaning towards cashmere due to the texture.

post #19863 of 28507
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Originally Posted by dustinmyself View Post

i want something textured, that's why i was steering away from silk.
How about silk knit? It's got the texture thing going for it, and silk knit ties tend to be more casual than most. Since linen summer suits also tend to be relatively informal (by suit standards), the pairing of line suit with silk knit tie would seem a good one.

A silk grenadine tie might work, too. (Even though such a tie is not, generally speaking, considered to be a particularly casual tie. But its texture would work with a linen suit.)

Anyway, I don't understand why you'd steer away from silk, for textural reasons. The texture of a "normal" (non-knit, non-grenadine) silk tie can definitely differ from that of a linen suit. Thus, you have contrast between the two textures. And that's presumably what you want. Nor does the contrast have to be night-and-day. A more subtle difference is often perfectly adequate.

I agree that cashmere has its own texture, but I just don't see it as a great summer tie. There are alternatives to cashmere (some of which I've mentioned), so I'd recommend steering away from cashmere.
post #19864 of 28507
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

How about silk knit? It's got the texture thing going for it, and silk knit ties tend to be more casual than most. Since linen summer suits also tend to be relatively informal (by suit standards), the pairing of line suit with silk knit tie would seem a good one.

A silk grenadine tie might work, too. (Even though such a tie is not, generally speaking, considered to be a particularly casual tie. But its texture would work with a linen suit.)

Anyway, I don't understand why you'd steer away from silk, for textural reasons. The texture of a "normal" (non-knit, non-grenadine) silk tie can definitely differ from that of a linen suit. Thus, you have contrast between the two textures. And that's presumably what you want. Nor does the contrast have to be night-and-day. A more subtle difference is often perfectly adequate.

I agree that cashmere has its own texture, but I just don't see it as a great summer tie. There are alternatives to cashmere (some of which I've mentioned), so I'd recommend steering away from cashmere.

Grenadines can run up and down the formality spectrum pretty easily, though. They're sort of unique that way among ties. For a more casual or rusticated look, you could go with an unlined and untipped grenadine in a looser weave, like garza grossa.
post #19865 of 28507
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Originally Posted by dustinmyself View Post

whats a good "summer tie"? 

 

something with texture. Would Cashmere work?

 

(would be wearing with a linen suit, and i don't think a linen tie would be optimal, right?)

 

You may wear any silk tie you like, but perhaps something similar to a Drakes untipped raw silk tie?  Raw shantung silk will give you that texture you are after. 

 

 

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http://www.drakes-london.com/ties/woven/untipped-woven-shantung-8cm-silk-tie-4080

 

This might be the perfect tie...now I'll need to buy one for myself! 

post #19866 of 28507
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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

 

You may wear any silk tie you like, but perhaps something similar to a Drakes untipped raw silk tie?  Raw shantung silk will give you that texture you are after. 

 

 

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http://www.drakes-london.com/ties/woven/untipped-woven-shantung-8cm-silk-tie-4080

 

This might be the perfect tie...now I'll need to buy one for myself! 

 

THATS what i'm talking about, i googled and googled and couldn't find that. THATS what i was looking for.

 

thank you much.

post #19867 of 28507
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Too broad a question. 
Given the right circumstances, anything's possible. But I tend to think of cashmere (or wool ties, generally) as more winter, than summer.
Ah, now you've at least narrowed it down a little.

I would prefer not to wear a linen tie with a linen suit. It could be done, sure. But generally speaking, I don't think it tends to be the best combination.

With a linen suit, there's actually nothing fundamentally wrong with the tried and true silk necktie. The textures tend to be different enough to keep things interesting, and I don't associate silk with winter, the way I sort of associate cashmere with winter.

A more definite recommendation of a good "summer tie" would depend on factors you haven't mentioned, such as the color of the suit, your geographic location, the setting where the suit and tie will be worn, your choice of shirt (collar, color, and so forth), your coloring, etc. Although, of course, certain colors are typically associated more strongly with summer, than they are with winter, and this could influence one's choice of summer tie, as well.

BTW, I recently purchased a Brooks Brothers navy blazer, that's 37% silk, 33% linen, and 30% wool. With that sucker, I figure I'm ready for any type of tie and any season of the year. smile.gif

That blazer sounds really nice. Pictures?

post #19868 of 28507
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Originally Posted by Chase H View Post

That blazer sounds really nice. Pictures?
Not my pics, but they'll do.

From Brooks Bros. 1818 line. Madison fit. 2-button navy herringbone blazer. 37% silk, 33% linen, 30% wool.

(Not slim-fitting, which means it probably won't get much love here on SF, but I strongly prefer a fuller, more traditional fit, so I like it.)

AppleMark

AppleMark
post #19869 of 28507
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Originally Posted by dustinmyself View Post

 

THATS what i'm talking about, i googled and googled and couldn't find that. THATS what i was looking for.

 

thank you much.


Awesome- post a pic once you get it! 

post #19870 of 28507
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Not my pics, but they'll do.

From Brooks Bros. 1818 line. Madison fit. 2-button navy herringbone blazer. 37% silk, 33% linen, 30% wool.

(Not slim-fitting, which means it probably won't get much love here on SF, but I strongly prefer a fuller, more traditional fit, so I like it.)

AppleMark

AppleMark

Well, that's what tailors are for. It's a gorgeous blazer.

post #19871 of 28507
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


What you are referring to is not a trench coat. You can certainly have single breasted raincoats, and they look perfectly fine, but they are not trenchcoats. Words have meanings, and trenchcoat is a specific type of raincoat, not just a word used to describe any classic raincoat you want. Basically, double breasted and belted are the key elements to a trenchcoat- some would also say it has to be mid length, but makers have been playing around with the length from day one, so I wouldn't include that.

As for color, your size doesn't matter, whoever told you that you shouldn't wear a real trenchcoat was wrong. Wear what you like, just make sure it's sized appropriately. I'm 5'6" and own both a classic tan trenchcoat and a black Mackintosh (single breasted raincoat with a covered fly, probably what you're looking at). I find the trench gets more wear when I'm dressed fairly formally and the Mac more wear when I'm in business casual. YMMV. Tan is certainly a perfectly acceptable color for a smaller guy to wear, as is navy. Pick whichever you like.

Thank you for enlighten me, I use the words "single breasted trench coat" because I find it here:http://artofmanliness.com/2010/10/20/man-guide-trench-coat/

And they said: 

 

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The classic trench coat is double breasted with six to ten buttons depending on length.  Although single breasted jackets are available, I recommend most men purchase a double breasted coat as it will for 95% of them be the only double breasted garment in their wardrobe.  The single breasted variety is best reserved for petite men who may appear buried in too much excess fabric.

And a given photo describe this one is a trench coat ( so do the Burberry and Aquascutum official websites):

 

 

I have a black double breasted coat (yes it's a trench coat) of Burberry and now I want to purchase one more. I think I should buy another style such as a single breasted coat. But since I almost wear the my black trench coat in the evening, I think I should buy a navy (or maybe a tan) double breasted instead so I can wear it in under the daylight.

After having your help, I think I can buy a light color coat (tan, honey...) with confidence.

post #19872 of 28507
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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

Really any combo you mention will work- I think it comes down to personal preferences and what suits you the best. 

For me, I would go grey suit white shirt and the tie/PS you show above- but I'm a pretty conservative guy and that may be a little too dry for your style.  I wouldn't go blue suit with this blue tie, perhaps a lighter blue but I try to avoid being too Regis Philbin with the color palette. 

Try laying the outfits on your bed and play with the options- or post pics for better guidance than mine!   

 

OK, so I'll stick with the grey suit. 

 

I'll make up my mind at friday/saturday before the ball by laying the two different shirts and the tie/ps combination on my bed to assess it, but it's good that you think the combination would work. Thanks! :)

post #19873 of 28507
Is a 3" tie minimum for business professional?
post #19874 of 28507
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Originally Posted by hypnotiq View Post

Is a 3" tie minimum for business professional?

Depends on the office, but that's a reasonable standard.
post #19875 of 28507

Hey guys, since I am not from US, I can not access usa.tommy.com site properly (I can browse it, but can not see which sizes are available). I would like to ask those of you, who live in the US, to check availibility of the shoes in the pictures below:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxkcaqoqvlony80/shoes1.png

I am interested in the brown color - same as in the picture.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkr023r37dmabea/shoe.png

Also the brown color.

 

Best would be just to make print screen of the whole site, where I can see which sizes are available. Thanks a lot!

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