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post #18916 of 21741
12/4/12 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


That "rule" is utterly wrong. I've heard it before, often to justify why an otherwise respectable store doesn't bother stocking size 30 belts, and never understood why people continue to repeat it. Your belt size should be the same as your waist size- you're supposed to use the middle hole, with the others to provide some give in either direction. Belts are measured to the middle hole- if you buckle a 32" belt in the middle hole, it will form a loop 32 inches in circumference.
Now, with vanity sizing and the expectation that you'll only get fatter instead of any thinner, getting a larger belt might be justified in some cases, but should hardly be considered the rule. I wear a size 29 or 30 waist depending on the pant and the day, and wear exclusively size 30 belts.

I have been burned by this before. The people at the Allen Edmonds store told me to size up 2 inches. Well, now I am on the tighest hole. It still looks fine, but if I had bought true-to-size, I would have been able to fasten it right in the middle.

 

Belt makers should understand that we wear belts over pants and size them to accomodate someone of the specified size. The same goes for jackets/coats: they get worn over top of suit jackets, and should be sized with this in mind. I have yet to find a company for which this does not hold true.

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post #18917 of 21741
12/4/12 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

That "rule" is utterly wrong. I've heard it before, often to justify why an otherwise respectable store doesn't bother stocking size 30 belts, and never understood why people continue to repeat it. Your belt size should be the same as your waist size- you're supposed to use the middle hole, with the others to provide some give in either direction. Belts are measured to the middle hole- if you buckle a 32" belt in the middle hole, it will form a loop 32 inches in circumference.
Now, with vanity sizing and the expectation that you'll only get fatter instead of any thinner, getting a larger belt might be justified in some cases, but should hardly be considered the rule. I wear a size 29 or 30 waist depending on the pant and the day, and wear exclusively size 30 belts.


This can not go unchallenged. I wear size 34 pants -- all my belts are 36. Before I embraced the Ben & Jerry's subculture, I wore size 32 pants and all the belts were 34. Go figure. OH! OH! an epiphany ---The pants waist band, collectively = the 2". That must be it, since I recall when I lazing out at the nudist resort, I wore the same size belt as my waist measurement.
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post #18918 of 21741
12/4/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Roger Everett View Post


This can not go unchallenged. I wear size 34 pants -- all my belts are 36. Before I embraced the Ben & Jerry's subculture, I wore size 32 pants and all the belts were 34. Go figure. OH! OH! an epiphany ---The pants waist band, collectively = the 2". That must be it, since I recall when I lazing out at the nudist resort, I wore the same size belt as my waist measurement.

Sure you can get away with a size 34 belt since there are like 6 holes on the belt, each 1" apart. What hole are you fastening the belt on?

 

As I mentioned in my previous post, we should not have to play guessing games about what size belt or pants to wear. They already tell you in the given size. That doesn't mean the actual garment measures the given size. It almost certainly doesn't. I figure the belt makers could pre-calculate how much give there should be as well as how much the waist band takes up.

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post #18919 of 21741
12/4/12 at 4:13pm
I have what I believe is a quick question. I am attending a business casual (but really semi-formal) dinner/christmas party at work and rather than do the same interview suit deal that I saw everyone do last year, I'm striking out in a different direction that I want to ensure is fashionably responsible. That being said, I plan on wearing a red/plum velvet jacket, white shirt (french cuffs), matching black pants and waistcoat/vest, and a green tie (holiday clothing is a part of the dress code), is this an acceptable choice?
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post #18920 of 21741
12/4/12 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by clarksdb View Post

I am in the market for suede double monks. Do you guys think these Meermin or Peal & Co would be better? Both will be around $300 (assuming Brooks has ~50% off during Boxing Day sale, like last year).
http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Double-Monk-Straps/MH00194,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00194_Color=BRWN&contentpos=10&cgid=0522
http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=2311
Which last is better? The better quality of the two?
The Peal & Co's are C&J. If they will both fit you the same and cost the same I would go with the Peal & Co.
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Originally Posted by Roger Everett View Post

This can not go unchallenged. I wear size 34 pants -- all my belts are 36. Before I embraced the Ben & Jerry's subculture, I wore size 32 pants and all the belts were 34. Go figure. OH! OH! an epiphany ---The pants waist band, collectively = the 2". That must be it, since I recall when I lazing out at the nudist resort, I wore the same size belt as my waist measurement.
Your pants were/are probably vanity sized.

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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

I have what I believe is a quick question. I am attending a business casual (but really semi-formal) dinner/christmas party at work and rather than do the same interview suit deal that I saw everyone do last year, I'm striking out in a different direction that I want to ensure is fashionably responsible. That being said, I plan on wearing a red/plum velvet jacket, white shirt (french cuffs), matching black pants and waistcoat/vest, and a green tie (holiday clothing is a part of the dress code), is this an acceptable choice?

You're definitely going to stick out. I'm not sure I would want to stick out that much.
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post #18921 of 21741
12/4/12 at 5:00pm
I don't mind sticking out, I'm pretty confident about breaking fashion rules, I just wanted to hear some thoughts from people that know more about these things. My wife isn't as confident as me, but last year I went with a chocolate suede odd jacket, gray trousers, chocolate/gray argyle sweater and I felt I stood out in a good way (I can't afford/find a midnight blue suit that I really want for these sorts of things). Thanks for responding.
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post #18922 of 21741
12/4/12 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

I have what I believe is a quick question. I am attending a business casual (but really semi-formal) dinner/christmas party at work and rather than do the same interview suit deal that I saw everyone do last year, I'm striking out in a different direction that I want to ensure is fashionably responsible. That being said, I plan on wearing a red/plum velvet jacket, white shirt (french cuffs), matching black pants and waistcoat/vest, and a green tie (holiday clothing is a part of the dress code), is this an acceptable choice?

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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

The Peal & Co's are C&J. If they will both fit you the same and cost the same I would go with the Peal & Co.
Your pants were/are probably vanity sized.
You're definitely going to stick out. I'm not sure I would want to stick out that much.

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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

I don't mind sticking out, I'm pretty confident about breaking fashion rules, I just wanted to hear some thoughts from people that know more about these things. My wife isn't as confident as me, but last year I went with a chocolate suede odd jacket, gray trousers, chocolate/gray argyle sweater and I felt I stood out in a good way (I can't afford/find a midnight blue suit that I really want for these sorts of things). Thanks for responding.

Velvet jacket is pretty formal in my opinion. You may look out of place
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post #18923 of 21741
12/4/12 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

I don't mind sticking out, I'm pretty confident about breaking fashion rules, I just wanted to hear some thoughts from people that know more about these things. My wife isn't as confident as me, but last year I went with a chocolate suede odd jacket, gray trousers, chocolate/gray argyle sweater and I felt I stood out in a good way (I can't afford/find a midnight blue suit that I really want for these sorts of things). Thanks for responding.

I'd be a lot more comfortable in last year's outfit. This year's is very dandy IMO.
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post #18924 of 21741
12/4/12 at 5:16pm
Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I guess I'll think on this some more. Part of my issue is that the language they used to describe the dress code doesn't exactly match up with what was actually being worn. They say business casual, but you were way off base if you didn't have at least a sportcoat and tie. There were a ton of power suits present and women were going all out, so I thought I'd have some more fun this year and try to use christmas colors. Maybe the velvet is too much...
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post #18925 of 21741
12/4/12 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I guess I'll think on this some more. Part of my issue is that the language they used to describe the dress code doesn't exactly match up with what was actually being worn. They say business casual, but you were way off base if you didn't have at least a sportcoat and tie. There were a ton of power suits present and women were going all out, so I thought I'd have some more fun this year and try to use christmas colors. Maybe the velvet is too much...

I would compromise with something like a tweed jacket and a somewhat bold shirt and tie.
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post #18926 of 21741
12/4/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by dragun57 View Post

I have what I believe is a quick question. I am attending a business casual (but really semi-formal) dinner/christmas party at work and rather than do the same interview suit deal that I saw everyone do last year, I'm striking out in a different direction that I want to ensure is fashionably responsible. That being said, I plan on wearing a red/plum velvet jacket, white shirt (french cuffs), matching black pants and waistcoat/vest, and a green tie (holiday clothing is a part of the dress code), is this an acceptable choice?

I think that's fine. I would go with a darker green tie that's not too wide - between 3 and 3 1/2 inches in width. That way you will still look professional and in sync with the holiday theme, without looking like your clowning around:)
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post #18927 of 21741
12/4/12 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

That "rule" is utterly wrong. I've heard it before, often to justify why an otherwise respectable store doesn't bother stocking size 30 belts, and never understood why people continue to repeat it. Your belt size should be the same as your waist size- you're supposed to use the middle hole, with the others to provide some give in either direction. Belts are measured to the middle hole- if you buckle a 32" belt in the middle hole, it will form a loop 32 inches in circumference.
Now, with vanity sizing and the expectation that you'll only get fatter instead of any thinner, getting a larger belt might be justified in some cases, but should hardly be considered the rule. I wear a size 29 or 30 waist depending on the pant and the day, and wear exclusively size 30 belts.

Excellent reply. I have a 30" waist, but bought a 32" belt for my two previous belt purchases. Definitely the wrong decision,as I found them to be too large. This recent belt discussion is a nice segue into my question.

I just purchased a new leather belt from corter leather, and e-mail them my question, but did not receive a reply.
This is from their website: Black belts are hand dyed in house, but not oiled - please treat with oil to prevent bleeding before use.

What type of oil should I use to prevent bleeding?
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post #18928 of 21741
12/4/12 at 9:10pm

Hi all!

 

First time poster here. I recently came across these shoes but cannot make out the brand. Any clue what they are? Any insight will be greatly appreciated!

 

 

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post #18929 of 21741
12/4/12 at 10:30pm
Google corrects a close enough approximation of the spelling to Stefano Branchini. I know nothing about the brand, so I can't help you there, but they make shoes, and that seems to be their logo.
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post #18930 of 21741
12/4/12 at 10:56pm
So I've been building my business wardrobe and I think my next logical step is to purchase an "odd" jacket that I can wear on casual fridays and the like. Can anyone give me some examples of an odd jacket that is a good foundational piece for a beginning business wardrobe, something that is very flexible and can be worn with many outfits?
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