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post #18421 of 27514
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Originally Posted by Bartleby Trout View Post

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When would it be appropriate to wear these shoes in black? What kind of pants would be all right? Would jeans be too much? I'm new to this whole "caring about how you look" thing. Basically, I'm a colorblind fashion newb who needs as much help as he can get.

Thank you!

I also have a pending post with an inserted pic with a different pair of shoes.

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF5705_1_40000000001_-1?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=Fifth-Avenue&gclid=CL6N24GfyLMCFQyk4Aodh1YA7A

Basically, you should never wear black shoes with jeans. It simply looks awful. A black shoe like that would only be appropriate with wool trousers or gray and olive khakis- it's a fairly casual styling in a formal color, which is a really awkward pairing.

The fifth avenues that you just posted are a much better choice. Suits, wool trousers, gray or olive khakis. Again, no jeans, since they're still black. Get the same shoe in brown, and it could work with jeans, but that's a rather formal styling.

Basically, the only shoe that can really work all the way from jeans to suits are brown or burgundy wingtips. And those have their detractors on either end- some hate them with jeans, some hate them with suits. You might also be able to shoehorn a brown plaintoe monk into that category, but those stand out enough that they really should be worn as part of a wider shoe rotation.

IMO, you need two pairs of shoes- one pair of brown/burgundy in a more casual styling that can work with jeans up through wool trousers, and a fairly formal black pair that will see use with suits and jacket/trouser pairings. Of course, that's just the starting point. biggrin.gif
post #18422 of 27514
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Basically, you should never wear black shoes with jeans. It simply looks awful. A black shoe like that would only be appropriate with wool trousers or gray and olive khakis- it's a fairly casual styling in a formal color, which is a really awkward pairing.
The fifth avenues that you just posted are a much better choice. Suits, wool trousers, gray or olive khakis. Again, no jeans, since they're still black. Get the same shoe in brown, and it could work with jeans, but that's a rather formal styling.
Basically, the only shoe that can really work all the way from jeans to suits are brown or burgundy wingtips. And those have their detractors on either end- some hate them with jeans, some hate them with suits. You might also be able to shoehorn a brown plaintoe monk into that category, but those stand out enough that they really should be worn as part of a wider shoe rotation.
IMO, you need two pairs of shoes- one pair of brown/burgundy in a more casual styling that can work with jeans up through wool trousers, and a fairly formal black pair that will see use with suits and jacket/trouser pairings. Of course, that's just the starting point. biggrin.gif

Thank you so much for your well thought-out and quick response! So, would the shoes I posted count for the "formal black" pair? 

 

Again, I really appreciate the help... I have a LOT of questions stored up!

post #18423 of 27514
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Basically, you should never wear black shoes with jeans. It simply looks awful. A black shoe like that would only be appropriate with wool trousers or gray and olive khakis- it's a fairly casual styling in a formal color, which is a really awkward pairing.
The fifth avenues that you just posted are a much better choice. Suits, wool trousers, gray or olive khakis. Again, no jeans, since they're still black. Get the same shoe in brown, and it could work with jeans, but that's a rather formal styling.
Basically, the only shoe that can really work all the way from jeans to suits are brown or burgundy wingtips. And those have their detractors on either end- some hate them with jeans, some hate them with suits. You might also be able to shoehorn a brown plaintoe monk into that category, but those stand out enough that they really should be worn as part of a wider shoe rotation.
IMO, you need two pairs of shoes- one pair of brown/burgundy in a more casual styling that can work with jeans up through wool trousers, and a fairly formal black pair that will see use with suits and jacket/trouser pairings. Of course, that's just the starting point. biggrin.gif

Also, you mention wool, but what about cotton pants?

 

I would have edited this into my last reply, but since I'm new, I can't view it yet.

post #18424 of 27514
The Fifth Avenue in black is a pretty formal shoe--would look out of place with jeans. With a suit, or a sportcoat with wool trousers and a tie, it'd look great.

Basically, black is more formal than brown--and the darker the brown, the more formal. The less brogueing/details, the more formal. This is both black and has little brogueing, and is thus quite formal.
post #18425 of 27514

So sorry to post a few in a row (when my other posts are cleared, that is), but I forgot to mention that I also own these:

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF4112_1_40000000001_-1

 

Would they be more like the brown casual to formal shoes you were talking about, or are these too loud for formal? Could these be worn with jeans?

 

Like I said... total newb here.

 

Thanks again!


Edited by Bartleby Trout - 11/12/12 at 10:42am
post #18426 of 27514

Has anyone in NYC been to LNC post-Sandy? I dropped off a suit on 10/20 and was told I'd be getting a call from him, still haven't heard back, tried calling several times over the weekend with no answer. I'm wondering if maybe LNC is still closed.

post #18427 of 27514

do all Zegna Couture coats/suits have a collar tag to show where they are made in? I have seen some on ebay without a collar tag but everything else checks out fine. 

 

was wondering if its a fake or not.

 

Thanks!

post #18428 of 27514

How many of you iron a crease into your shirt collars?  I love the really nice roll some people get on their colors with ties, however every time I get my shirts back from the dry cleaner they iron a pretty decent crease in the collar, which makes the collar look crisper but not sure if the roll is the same that way, nor if its good for the shirt. As a side note, I typically hand wash and press shirts myself.

post #18429 of 27514

How does this shirt fit? It feels just a little snug around the midsection, but I think it looks OK there so I'm not sure. Are the sleeves a bit too long?

 

 

post #18430 of 27514
It would be easier to tell if the images showed the shirt tucked in. It's hard to tell when it's untucked.
post #18431 of 27514
How tight should a shoe tree fit in a pair of shoes? I get the feeling I'm pushing too hard on the springs to get the trees in.
post #18432 of 27514
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Originally Posted by OlenWeaver View Post

How does this shirt fit? It feels just a little snug around the midsection, but I think it looks OK there so I'm not sure. Are the sleeves a bit too long? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Sleeves appear long, and the shirt overall appears a bit short. Neither of these are too bad however, as long as the shirt stays tucked in. How does the neck fit when buttoned?
post #18433 of 27514
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Originally Posted by NaTionS View Post

How tight should a shoe tree fit in a pair of shoes? I get the feeling I'm pushing too hard on the springs to get the trees in.

Snug, but not like it's stretching the shoe. Is it just sticking a bit on the leather, or are you really having to wedge it down in there?
post #18434 of 27514
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Originally Posted by IrateCustomer View Post

It would be easier to tell if the images showed the shirt tucked in. It's hard to tell when it's untucked.

 

I don't know why I did that. Here you go:

 

 

post #18435 of 27514
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


Sleeves appear long, and the shirt overall appears a bit short. Neither of these are too bad however, as long as the shirt stays tucked in. How does the neck fit when buttoned?


The neck is fine. That's the only part I feel good about judging by myself.

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