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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


It's extremely versatile. The color is ideal.

(Come on, people. estranged has been asking about shoes and more shoes, all the while practically begging us to tell him his latest choice is versatile and worth buying. He's bounced around from penny loafers to monkstraps to boots. Help put an end to the drama. Tell him that the shoe in question is unsurpassed in versatility, and he'd be utterly insane not to buy it and wear it brilliantly with everything from 3" running shorts to a tuxedo.)

You probably have some comprehension issues. All I wanted is shoe which i can combine with business casual AND jeans. That's it, i don't need shoe for a suit or shorts, etc.

 

Anyways, you're just spamming..

post #32882 of 33197
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Originally Posted by estranged View Post
 

[snip] All I wanted is shoe which i can combine with business casual AND jeans. That's it, i don't need shoe for a suit or shorts, etc.

 


Then stick with a derby, (open lacing). Those burgundy closed laced balmorals you posted above are traditionally used with suits. I don't think many people on this forum would ever consider using those with jeans.

Maybe consider this as a nod to traditional use, blended with your own sense of style:

Derby's, (open laced shoes), maybe with some broging and/or antiqued looking dye. The colour variations in a well-made pair of new shoes can resemble an older pair of well-loved shoes. A pair that you love so much that you wear to casual business days as well as with jeans. :) 

post #32883 of 33197
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You probably have some comprehension issues. All I wanted is shoe which i can combine with business casual AND jeans. That's it, i don't need shoe for a suit or shorts, etc.

Anyways, you're just spamming..

I think you must be a sock puppet for one of the old timers. Is that you Vox? In topic, those shoes are perfect with jeans. I'd even wear them with shorts!
post #32884 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I think you must be a sock puppet for one of the old timers. Is that you Vox? In topic, those shoes are perfect with jeans. I'd even wear them with shorts!

I'm not an old timer and I would NOT wear them with jeans or shorts.
post #32885 of 33197
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I'm not an old timer and I would NOT wear them with jeans or shorts.

You must not like super versatile shoes! Perfect with jeans, shorts, pajamas, AND speedos.
post #32886 of 33197
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I think you must be a sock puppet for one of the old timers. Is that you Vox? In topic, those shoes are perfect with jeans. I'd even wear them with shorts!

My daughter came up with a perfect idea for her expensive brand new dress shoes. Using them with her scooter. I would have shot her and her grandparents over it but thanks to this everlasting topic I've come to realise that it's just natural and there is no difference in use for shoes...so yes...those oxfords are perfect for anything and everything. Go hiking, traverse a few creeks, toss them on with a suit or wear them sock less with shorts. And don't worry, they'll go great with jeans and business casual as well. I bet they'll even be great for riding scooters up and down hills and using them as the brake. Now go get your prius and sign up for the indy 500 tomorrow, an off road race the day after, & take it to a Hollywood red carpet premier the day after that.

But seriously...I was at fault for allowing my daughter to take the shoes to school...Although I told her not to use her dress shoes as gym shoes...and even put gym shoes in her bag...She is a child.... Her grandparents weren't informed as to my intentions for the shoes and I shouldn't have expected them to pay attention to the matter. So as the only informed adult it comes down to me...but....

I am assuming (perhaps wrongly) that you (Estranged) are an adult of sorts? You have been informed at length and in detail by the SF community, correct? Perhaps you should now act as an informed adult and make an informed decision on your own(& take whatever consequences that might bring) versus showing us the same freaking model shoe (oxfords) & asking us the same question? Has anybody come out and stated any of the oxfords you've shown are versatile for the purposes you've mentioned? And you've shown dozens by now....yet here you are again...with another Oxford...asking the same question & getting the same responses....so it begs the question....are you a child? are you slow minded? Or are you just playing around & wasting everyone's time?
Edited by justonemore - 6/9/16 at 1:07am
post #32887 of 33197
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Originally Posted by facet View Post

I thought a black grenadine tie was considered one of the most versatile ties one could have?


Perhaps you confused that with a burgundy grenadine tie?

post #32888 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post
 

Hi,

 

As a complete novice to style and dressing (but having learnt a lot from this forum) I wonder whether somebody could advise on the appropriateness of a black belt.

 

I received the black belt at the same time as my black shoes which are strictly for formal occasions but obviously braces are the accepted norm for such occasions (annoyingly the braces would have cost a fraction of the belt but hey ho).

 

What would people's suggestions be as an appropriate outfit for a black belt or do I need a pair of non-formal black shoes to justify the belt?


I don't get your point as to formality here...Is the belt informal and the shoes formal? A black belt is what you would normally wear with black shoes....The basic rule being that your belt should go with your shoes...I would guess that's why you received them together. Now if the belt is a wide informal jeans type of belt I wouldn't pair it with a suit & oxfords...Nor would I pair a dress belt with jeans and hiking boots....Pictures might help...

post #32889 of 33197
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Originally Posted by justonemore View Post
 


I don't get your point as to formality here...Is the belt informal and the shoes formal? A black belt is what you would normally wear with black shoes....The basic rule being that your belt should go with your shoes...I would guess that's why you received them together. Now if the belt is a wide informal jeans type of belt I wouldn't pair it with a suit & oxfords...Nor would I pair a dress belt with jeans and hiking boots....Pictures might help...

 

Sorry - should have been more specific.

 

The shoes are black G&G Holdens (Deco last) and the belt is from G&G also (silver buckle).

 

I wear my Holdens for formal occasions only and the belt was obviously bought to go with the shoes. I have discovered (through this forum) that formal occasions warrant braces and belts are deemed too informal for such attire.

 

So in essence what I was querying is whether this is a hard and fast rule or whether I should only be wearing a black belt with a less dressy outfit along with some less dressy shoes (obviously still being black)?

post #32890 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post

Sorry - should have been more specific.

The shoes are black G&G Holdens (Deco last) and the belt is from G&G also (silver buckle).

I wear my Holdens for formal occasions only and the belt was obviously bought to go with the shoes. I have discovered (through this forum) that formal occasions warrant braces and belts are deemed too informal for such attire.

So in essence what I was querying is whether this is a hard and fast rule or whether I should only be wearing a black belt with a less dressy outfit along with some less dressy shoes (obviously still being black)?

Not sure what formal events you're talking about. I often wear suits...even to my daughter's flute concerts...sometimes I will pick a black shoe (I have several)...when I wear a black dress shoe, I wear a black dress belt. I do not go black tie or specialty outfits. When I go to the opera, or the theatre, or a concert...I will usually go with a charcoal suit, black captoe oxfords, and a black belt. The same black belt I use for my high end "formal" black captoe oxfords (EG, G&G, Cleverley), I use for my "less formal" half-brother, full brogue, and tassel loafers. And honestly....I can't remember the last time I used braces...perhaps I'm just not fancy enough?
post #32891 of 33197
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Originally Posted by justonemore View Post


Not sure what formal events you're talking about. I often wear suits...even to my daughter's flute concerts...sometimes I will pick a black shoe (I have several)...when I wear a black dress shoe, I wear a black dress belt. I do not go black tie or specialty outfits. When I go to the opera, or the theatre, or a concert...I will usually go with a charcoal suit, black captoe oxfords, and a black belt. The same black belt I use for my high end "formal" black captoe oxfords (EG, G&G, Cleverley), I use for my "less formal" half-brother, full brogue, and tassel loafers. And honestly....I can't remember the last time I used braces...perhaps I'm just not fancy enough?


I was referring to the same sort of occasions as yourself.

 

Having read various threads on the forum it seemed as though it was a cardinal sin to wear a belt at any other time than completely casual (which then would negate the need for a black belt).

 

Thank you for your assistance.


Edited by Steven Cash - 6/9/16 at 6:05am
post #32892 of 33197
If your tux is cut classically, people shouldn't be seeing your belt either way. If it's not, then the belt would be consistently "not correct".
post #32893 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post
 


I was referring to the same sort of occasions as yourself.

 

Having read various threads on the forum it seemed as though it was a cardinal sin to wear a black tie (particularly bow tie) and a belt .

 

Thank you for your assistance.


First off I would never wear a black tie other than a bow tie...and I get a feeling that's the case with most people here...Perhaps you might consider getting something more than a black tie? A nice burgundy or navy?

 

To my knowledge...for suits...braces or belt is acceptable..it's a matter of choice...Although there might be an occasion where braces are more acceptable, I'm not particularly aware of it...but again..I don't wear formal dinner wear or breakfast wear, or garden party wear, or queens coronation wear, or anything like that...The most formal outfits I have are suits....and I always wear them with a belt...and I've never been aware that I've dressed wrongly overall for the events I've attended..

post #32894 of 33197

^^^^

 

Thanks for the replies chaps.

 

I do own a black tie but as you say bow tie is more commonly used for such events and I do wear other colour bow ties besides black also.

post #32895 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Steven Cash View Post
 

^^^^

 

Thanks for the replies chaps.

 

I do own a black tie but as you say bow tie is more commonly used for such events and I do wear other colour bow ties besides black also.


Ok...but you can wear black shoes and black belts with more than a black tie....

 

I myself never wear bowties...now if there's some correlation with bowties and braces, I have no idea...but any number of suits will go with any number of ties which will go with any number of black shoes and black belts...

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