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post #32251 of 33197
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Black shoes are generally too formal for chinos.

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The second pair looks to be dark brown? Brown suede derbys should be fine with chinos. But agreed, not black.

yep dark brown. thanks.




follow up question:

anyone have any experience with Lands' End Sail Rigger shirts?

http://www.landsend.com/products/mens-sail-rigger-oxford-shirt/id_248653
post #32252 of 33197
I decided to get rid of all my ill fitting odd jackets and at the moment I only own a navy hopsack blazer which is very light so only suited for summer. For max versatility I would like to add a navy jacket for the winter months. I live in a mild climate place so I don't need extremely heavy fabrics. Then I would like to add a brown jacket, in tweed probably, but at the moment I want to focus on the navy jacket.
What would be a good fabric for a winter navy blazer? Obviously something versatile that would go with flannel trousers, cords, etc.
post #32253 of 33197

Anybody have a good ascot pattern to go with this suit and a white shirt?

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post #32254 of 33197
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yep dark brown. thanks.




follow up question:

anyone have any experience with Lands' End Sail Rigger shirts?

http://www.landsend.com/products/mens-sail-rigger-oxford-shirt/id_248653

 

The quality is pretty decent for the price, I just don't like the short, stubby collars.

post #32255 of 33197
What tie brands should I look at that are a step above the Tie Bar?
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When wearing clothing with texture is it advisable to make sure the types of texture are disparate? For example, if I have a blue herringbone tweed jacket and brown herringbone tweed pants, should I avoid wearing them together?
post #32257 of 33197
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What tie brands should I look at that are a step above the Tie Bar?

Not an exhaustive list, and various exceptions exist, but -

Kiton, Borrelli, Attolini, Isaia, Bulgari, Charvet, Marinella, Hermes, Carlo Franco, Sam Hober.

Perhaps a little below those, are Brioni, Stefano Ricci, Nicky of Milan, Drake, Holliday & Brown, Turnbull & Asser, Massimo Bizzocchi, Breuer, Robert Talbott (the sevenfolds and the Best of Class line), Four in Hand, Zegna (but not the Villa Bolgheri line), Canali.

Dropping down another step might be Altea, Pucci, Dolce & Gabbana, Zegna Villa Bolgheri line, Ralph Lauren Purple Label, Robert Talbott's lesser lines, and Brooks Brothers.

I've compiled this list based largely on things other people have posted. And since some of the posts are nearly a decade old, the ratings may have changed over time. I have little to no personal experience with most of the aforementioned brands. I usually just buy Brooks (usually during a great sale, although I'm perfectly willing to buy new Brooks ties off of eBay for a fraction of their normal selling price). I do own (and wear) the odd Robert Talbott, Tie Bar, Lands' End, etc.

If I were to look for something nicer than Brooks, I'd just order a tie from Sam Hober, and call it a day.
post #32258 of 33197
Is the quality on the Tie Bar ties good. I have one, but can't really tell. From a price point perspective, it's a pretty low bar.
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No, not really.

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Is the quality on the Tie Bar ties good.
Tie Bar ties have been addressed previously, both here on SF, and elsewhere. What did you think of these past discussions and reviews when you looked at them? Was there some aspect of the ties upon which nobody has touched, and which is personally important to you?
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I have one, but can't really tell.
Realistically, if you already own one, and you're satisfied with it, then I'd maintain that pretty much by definition, you find it to be a satisfactory tie.

Sure, there may be ties which are of better quality in various ways, but if, as you suggest, differences in tie quality are largely lost on you ("can't tell"), then to you those quality differences have little real significance. So why worry about them?

To give a personal example, to me all whiskey tastes equally vile. I have friends who are whiskey connoisseurs. Thanks to them, I've tried some fairly expensive, well regarded whiskeys. But whether it's from a >$100 bottle of Laphroaig or Glenfiddich, or from a <$10 bottle that would cause a whiskey lover to recoil in horror, it's all the same to me. So for me to worry about the quality of the whiskey I'm drinking is rather pointless; I can detect no difference whatsoever.

(On those occasions when I buy one of them a nice bottle as a gift, I simply buy whichever Scotch whiskey I've heard them speak of in favorable terms, and which falls into the desired price range. Same way that when they buy me a bottle of wine, I suspect they go to the store and buy whichever bottle has a little card next to it, saying "95 points from Wine Spectator!")
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From a price point perspective, it's a pretty low bar.
Agreed, even with the price hike up to $20, they're fairly inexpensive for new neckties.
post #32261 of 33197

Is there some definitive answer to how low the lowest button should be on an overcoat? 

 

I have one with 3 buttons single breasted with a fourth button at the stop to close up the lapels but is normally hidden. 

 

What is the lowest the button should go that would be acceptable? 

post #32262 of 33197
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

Tie Bar ties have been addressed previously, both here on SF, and elsewhere. What did you think of these past discussions and reviews when you looked at them? Was there some aspect of the ties upon which nobody has touched, and which is personally important to you?
Realistically, if you already own one, and you're satisfied with it, then I'd maintain that pretty much by definition, you find it to be a satisfactory tie.

Sure, there may be ties which are of better quality in various ways, but if, as you suggest, differences in tie quality are largely lost on you ("can't tell"), then to you those quality differences have little real significance. So why worry about them?

To give a personal example, to me all whiskey tastes equally vile. I have friends who are whiskey connoisseurs. Thanks to them, I've tried some fairly expensive, well regarded whiskeys. But whether it's from a >$100 bottle of Laphroaig or Glenfiddich, or from a <$10 bottle that would cause a whiskey lover to recoil in horror, it's all the same to me. So for me to worry about the quality of the whiskey I'm drinking is rather pointless; I can detect no difference whatsoever.

(On those occasions when I buy one of them a nice bottle as a gift, I simply buy whichever Scotch whiskey I've heard them speak of in favorable terms, and which falls into the desired price range. Same way that when they buy me a bottle of wine, I suspect they go to the store and buy whichever bottle has a little card next to it, saying "95 points from Wine Spectator!")
Agreed, even with the price hike up to $20, they're fairly inexpensive for new neckties.
Honestly haven't seen the discussions regarding The Tie Bar before on SF. I'm not sure how to describe it, but I do feel like my more expensive ties are nicer. But then again maybe it's a placebo affect. I received the Tie Bar one as a gift.
post #32263 of 33197
I have an event tonight with the ambiguous dresscode (at least in this day and age) "cocktail attire". I checked with the student committee arranging the event, and at least a shirt with a collar is expected (duh), so attire will likely range from jeans with untucked shirts to suit and tie. As this is a medical student event, there will be copious amounts of ethyl alcohol consumed. I'm going to opening night of Swan Lake tomorrow, and as my black-tie rig is not yet ready for action, I want to preserve my suit and good shirt for that, not risking spillage tonight.
My options are thus nice dark blue jeans or black chinos with a black SC, shirt and tie/no tie. I need a new shirt anyway, what color would work with this? As I've learned on this forum, a black coat is hardly versatile, but it's what I've got. Thoughts?
post #32264 of 33197
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Originally Posted by AdductorMagnus View Post

I have an event tonight with the ambiguous dresscode (at least in this day and age) "cocktail attire". I checked with the student committee arranging the event, and at least a shirt with a collar is expected (duh), so attire will likely range from jeans with untucked shirts to suit and tie. As this is a medical student event, there will be copious amounts of ethyl alcohol consumed. I'm going to opening night of Swan Lake tomorrow, and as my black-tie rig is not yet ready for action, I want to preserve my suit and good shirt for that, not risking spillage tonight.
My options are thus nice dark blue jeans or black chinos with a black SC, shirt and tie/no tie. I need a new shirt anyway, what color would work with this? As I've learned on this forum, a black coat is hardly versatile, but it's what I've got. Thoughts?

Despite the fancy language in the invite, it's a drunken party. Go with the jeans, shirt and a black coat if you have one (e.g. don't go out and buy anything). No tie. If I had a knit tie, I'd wear one just to show effort. I'd probably not buy one at short notice for a drinking party though.

Black chinos and black coat will be a bad look; especially if you're wearing a light shirt since it'll look like you've tried to do evening wear on the cheap without appreciating how far from the mark you've fallen.

Shirt-wise though, and this is a personal preference, I'd stick with light colours with either a small-scale or no pattern. Probably light blue to pull out the colour in the jeans.
post #32265 of 33197
If this wasn't a university event and you hadn't already gotten direction from the student committee, I would say that cocktail attire would be suit and tie or nice dress if you were a woman.
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