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post #32116 of 33195
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

Even if this is true - and I don't know that it is, but for the sake of this post, let's assume it's true - it's irrelevant. The covering is not as it should be. Therefore, the shoes are flawed, and presumably not acceptable to you.

Let us say I buy a new car, and upon taking delivery I notice that the front right fender is a different shade of blue than is the rest of the car.

I inform the dealer that there is a problem with my new car. That the front right fender is medium blue, and not dark blue like the rest of the car.

He replies that, "The color of the paint on the fender is simply a matter of aesthetics. That it's the wrong color will not affect the longevity or quality of your car."

What he has said is absolutely true. The longevity and quality of my car would not be affected, were the fender medium blue, hot pink, or purple with green polka dots.

But is this a reasonable response, which ought to settle the matter?

Of course not!

It's a flaw - even if only an aesthetic flaw. It's a legitimate reason for me to be dissatisfied. I would be entitled to a refund, a replacement car, a re-painting of the existing vehicle, or basically some sort of mutually acceptable resolution to the problem.

Seems to me, if you purchased a pair of new shoes with turn out to be aesthetically flawed, and you were not informed by the seller prior to purchase that they might be aesthetically flawed, you have a legitimate reason to be dissatisfied with the shoes.

Aesthetic flaws matter!

Demand an exchange or a refund.

Or decide that you don't really care about the flaw, and stop worrying about it.

Your choice.

Uh, that's just a channeled sole. The covering for most shallow channels like that one- which are pretty much purely aesthetic and don't affect wear- wears off pretty quickly with normal wear to the sole. It's normal and nothing to be upset about. You might not want to see it on a new shoe, but you're going to have much more significant aesthetic damage to the sole the moment you step outside.
post #32117 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Temple90 View Post

Thank you for the advice fellas! I'm also looking for a pair of loafers. I know that Hugo Boss doesn't get much love around here, but I love the sleek look of their loafers vs the bulky look of some other brands loafers.
I particularly like the following pair, but do not know if I want to drop $300 on them. Can someone recommend a similar loafer in the $200 range?

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/%27cilby%27-italian-calfskin-loafers/hbna50298157.html?cgid=71234&dwvar_hbna50298157_color=202_Dark%20Brown#prefn1=mpg&srule=sale-categories&prefv1=Shoes&sz=96&start=1

Those aren't pretty at all...they are trying to be all things at once

I think you have to realize what a loafer is about to trust the beauty of a classic loafer like Bass Weejuns or similar.

chekc this out
:http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2014/10/theres-a-new-loafer-in-town/
post #32118 of 33195
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Uh, that's just a channeled sole. The covering for most shallow channels like that one- which are pretty much purely aesthetic and don't affect wear- wears off pretty quickly with normal wear to the sole. It's normal and nothing to be upset about. You might not want to see it on a new shoe, but you're going to have much more significant aesthetic damage to the sole the moment you step outside.
That's the worst hidden channeling I've seen.
post #32119 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Churchill W View Post

That's the worst hidden channeling I've seen.

They sell welted shoes made from full grain leather for $200. Channeling is a mostly pointless aesthetic detail. So it's not done to the standards of Edward Green- what do you want from them?
post #32120 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Temple90 View Post

Thank you for the advice fellas! I'm also looking for a pair of loafers. I know that Hugo Boss doesn't get much love around here, but I love the sleek look of their loafers vs the bulky look of some other brands loafers.
I particularly like the following pair, but do not know if I want to drop $300 on them. Can someone recommend a similar loafer in the $200 range?

http://www.hugoboss.com/us/%27cilby%27-italian-calfskin-loafers/hbna50298157.html?cgid=71234&dwvar_hbna50298157_color=202_Dark%20Brown#prefn1=mpg&srule=sale-categories&prefv1=Shoes&sz=96&start=1

Those are abjectly terrible.
post #32121 of 33195
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

They sell welted shoes made from full grain leather for $200. Channeling is a mostly pointless aesthetic detail. So it's not done to the standards of Edward Green- what do you want from them?
I'd rather them not try and just stick with an open channeled sole then.
post #32122 of 33195
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Those are abjectly terrible.

Yep. $300 makes them unconscionable.
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Can anyone shed any light on this old tie I found today?  Made in Scotland by Laurie of Glasgow.  "Lawrie for Tartan".  I guess this was a kilt-making company?

 

 

 

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What would be the cheapest method to ship 2 pairs of shoes (one package) to Spain from the US?  Would need to be track-able.

 

Thanks in advance!

post #32125 of 33195
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Originally Posted by mosy View Post

What would be the cheapest method to ship 2 pairs of shoes (one package) to Spain from the US?  Would need to be track-able.

Thanks in advance!

Probably USPS, especialky if they fit into those fixed rate boxes.
I have shipped fedex and ups before and its probably going to be close to 200USD
post #32126 of 33195
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Probably USPS, especialky if they fit into those fixed rate boxes.
I have shipped fedex and ups before and its probably going to be close to 200USD

 

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post #32127 of 33195
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Originally Posted by bringusingoodale View Post


Those aren't pretty at all...they are trying to be all things at once

I think you have to realize what a loafer is about to trust the beauty of a classic loafer like Bass Weejuns or similar.

chekc this out
:http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2014/10/theres-a-new-loafer-in-town/

 

 

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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Those are abjectly terrible.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post


Yep. $300 makes them unconscionable.

 

Can you recommend a loafer or slip on style shoe that would go well with a suit? I like the look of the boss shoes, but not the buckle or the price. I'm looking to stay with a dark brown and ~$200.

post #32128 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Temple90 View Post


Can you recommend a loafer or slip on style shoe that would go well with a suit? I like the look of the boss shoes, but not the buckle or the price. I'm looking to stay with a dark brown and ~$200.

Both of these are $167 right now.




I'm not sure why you want a loafer with your suit but just for a respectable beater shoes at a good price AE is pretty typical. Also not sure about your size but there are tons of better shoes on sale right now… and there's always the factory seconds site as well.




http://www.allenedmonds.com/clearance/mens-clearance/shoes/?prefn1=size&srule=price-low-to-high&sz=54&start=0&prefv1=9.5

this search is under my size for AE … 9.5 US.
post #32129 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Temple90 View Post





Can you recommend a loafer or slip on style shoe that would go well with a suit? I like the look of the boss shoes, but not the buckle or the price. I'm looking to stay with a dark brown and ~$200.

Not sure what size you are but I am selling gently used Allen Edmonds Mcgraw in dark brown size 9.5 US.

Will probably be around $120.

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post #32130 of 33195
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Originally Posted by Pierson v Post View Post
 

Can anyone shed any light on this old tie I found today?  Made in Scotland by Laurie of Glasgow.  "Lawrie for Tartan".  I guess this was a kilt-making company?

 

 

 

I'm Scottish, I'll have a crack at it, but I'm no expert.

 

"Laurie" belongs to a family of tartans originating in Fife, an area of eastern Scotland between Edinburgh and Dundee (google "Fife" and you'll see where it is). Lawrie and Lowry are other examples of the same tartan, but with different colour schemes. My guess would be that whoever made the tie and owned the shop in Glasgow specialised in this family of tartans, or was known for it, and designed that tie using the Laurie pattern, but with a different colour scheme.

 

I could be totally wrong, but there's an educated guess for you!

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