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patrickBOOTH · Apr 18, 2012

Does anybody know where I can source buttons similar to the thick mother of pearl buttons that come on Borrelli shirts?

patrickBOOTH · Apr 18, 2012

Cordwinder said:
Im going to get ridiculed for being dressed by the internet but is this ok?
First time wearing a pocket square. I'll be wearing a navy suit, with a lime green shirt and light blue necktie. The suit is the same style as in the picture.
It was posted in the pocketsquare thread, if in doubt skip it, I really want to try wearing one.

The suit is fine, but a lime green shirt and a light blue tie? No. Wear a white shirt, or a light blue shirt with a grey, or midnight navy tie. The white linen square is always acceptable, however don't make it look too neat like that. Fold it without thinking too much and shove it in, no fancy points.

Winston S. · Apr 18, 2012

patrickBOOTH said:
Does anybody know where I can source buttons similar to the thick mother of pearl buttons that come on Borrelli shirts?

Perhaps you have seen already, but there is a vendor on the B&S forum that sells MoP buttons. Not sure how they are compared to Borrelli ones.

Liam O · Apr 18, 2012

find a chewed up one on ebay, those things are deceptively expensive.

patrickBOOTH said:
Does anybody know where I can source buttons similar to the thick mother of pearl buttons that come on Borrelli shirts?

Liam O · Apr 18, 2012

pBoops hit the nail on the head, he's a smart old fart.
Stick to pure wool, English wool tends to be tougher, Harris Tweed makes suiting fabrics, and you can buy fabrics from them, or buy the suit for about what you were saying you'd wind up spending anyway.
I can't speak too much to suits, but UprCrust would be a good person to watch if you're looking for practical finance-appropriate suiting that looks good and won't wear too quick, and I'd recommend staying way the hell away from any lightweight shirts. A slightly worn suit is a lot less noticeable and a lot more understandable than a shirt with an orange collar and wear out the ass.
I personally recommend Charles Tyrwhitt, but stay well the hell away from poplin, twill weaves FTW. Summer weight BR actually has some pretty decent linen stuff even though I'm going to get crucified for recommending that, and linen will keep you cooler than poplin, and wear better too.

also, better to give the suit a day off than wear it for two days in a row, both for wear and image.

JRGEICO said:
I am well aware that I need to read much more (I have a post count of 10, what did you expect ) but time is a very scarce good for me so I try to optimize whenever I can.

I currently work in finance, where a typical day for me starts at 9 and ends at 9+ (excluding time on the road). This means that, when expanding my wardrobe, I have to make sure that I buy stuff that can withstand being worn +12 hours a day (for 2 or max 3 days). By extreme example, a Vicuña suit would not last long.

I try to switch suits every 2 days. At the moment I own four suits, 3 are Suit Supply and 1 is SOCI3TY (which as I type it reads very very cheap (it wasnt)), but I admit that I never really paid attention to type of lapels, fabric etc etc.
As I want to change this and dress more consciously (I am a huge believer of the dress good feel good theory) I made an appointment with a local tailor in Brussels (to give you an idea: custom suits start at EUR 750) and I am now starting to do research to make sure that I will not be hassled (after all, it is Brussels ).

That's why I was wondering whether there is this kind of scale that says

Low Durability -- High Durability
Vicuna -- Steel

Is this a more sufficient explanation?

JRGEICO · Apr 18, 2012

Liam O said:
pBoops hit the nail on the head, he's a smart old fart.
Stick to pure wool, English wool tends to be tougher, Harris Tweed makes suiting fabrics, and you can buy fabrics from them, or buy the suit for about what you were saying you'd wind up spending anyway.
I can't speak too much to suits, but UprCrust would be a good person to watch if you're looking for practical finance-appropriate suiting that looks good and won't wear too quick, and I'd recommend staying way the hell away from any lightweight shirts. A slightly worn suit is a lot less noticeable and a lot more understandable than a shirt with an orange collar and wear out the ass.
I personally recommend Charles Tyrwhitt, but stay well the hell away from poplin, twill weaves FTW. Summer weight BR actually has some pretty decent linen stuff even though I'm going to get crucified for recommending that, and linen will keep you cooler than poplin, and wear better too.

also, better to give the suit a day off than wear it for two days in a row, both for wear and image.

Pbooth and Liam: Thanks for the information, I will look into this as soon as of this weekend. I made an appointment with a "businesswear " (or at least that is what he advertises on his website

) tailor who I know is also used by companies such as Deloitte.

I just quickly browsed Charles Tyrwhitt, when I opt for Businesswear I can only select 100% wool as material so I think that is already putting me in the right direction. Also thanks for the tips on the type of weave, definitely something I have to remember

And the suits are not even expensive?

And I'll also keep in mind the tip for new day different suit.

Actually, my post in short, thanks for the tips!

patrickBOOTH · Apr 18, 2012

Liam O said:
pBoops hit the nail on the head, he's a smart old fart.
Stick to pure wool, English wool tends to be tougher, Harris Tweed makes suiting fabrics, and you can buy fabrics from them, or buy the suit for about what you were saying you'd wind up spending anyway.

I can't speak too much to suits, but UprCrust would be a good person to watch if you're looking for practical finance-appropriate suiting that looks good and won't wear too quick, and I'd recommend staying way the hell away from any lightweight shirts. A slightly worn suit is a lot less noticeable and a lot more understandable than a shirt with an orange collar and wear out the ass.
I personally recommend Charles Tyrwhitt, but stay well the hell away from poplin, twill weaves FTW. Summer weight BR actually has some pretty decent linen stuff even though I'm going to get crucified for recommending that, and linen will keep you cooler than poplin, and wear better too.

also, better to give the suit a day off than wear it for two days in a row, both for wear and image.

I disagree with this. Poplin is classic businesswear. I don't care for twill dress shirts honestly. I think pinpoint is nice because of the open weave. It is thicker, yet wears cooler, and since it is an open weave it actually washes a little nicer and lasts longer than poplin in my experience.

Liam O · Apr 18, 2012

patrickBOOTH said:
I disagree with this. Poplin is classic businesswear. I don't care for twill dress shirts honestly. I think pinpoint is nice because of the open weave. It is thicker, yet wears cooler, and since it is an open weave it actually washes a little nicer and lasts longer than poplin in my experience.

I don't know if we disagree on the point, more on what we'd replace it with. Poplins are conservative business dress to be sure, but unless you have the money for absolute top shelf they make the transition from starched tissues to used tissues a lot quicker than oxford cloth or twill will.

AtticusFench · Apr 18, 2012

My first post!

I'm attending a wedding this weekend in Oxford, MS. Being Spring time in the South and at Ole Miss, I want to wear my new linen suit. Problem is that the forcast is calling for a high of only 72 and possible showers and a low of 58. Is this unacceptable weather for a linen suit?

ter1413 · Apr 18, 2012

AtticusFench said:
My first post!

I'm attending a wedding this weekend in Oxford, MS. Being Spring time in the South and at Ole Miss, I want to wear my new linen suit. Problem is that the forcast is calling for a high of only 72 and possible showers and a low of 58. Is this unacceptable weather for a linen suit?

It's not unacceptable..but I would not do it...

12345Michael54321 · Apr 18, 2012

AtticusFench said:
Is this unacceptable weather for a linen suit?

It's springtime, you'll be in Mississippi, and the temperature will exceed 70 degrees. You can wear the linen suit, if you want. Assuming - temperature aside - that a linen suit is an appropriate choice for the wedding, of course.

They're not ideal linen suit conditions, but it's not like you're asking about wearing seersucker to a Christmas party, or heavy tweed to a 4th of July barbecue. Nobody will have any cause to think you're clueless and have no idea how to dress.

Oh, and wear a bow tie, please. If a man can't get away with wearing a bow tie with a linen suit to a wedding in Mississippi, just when can he wear one, I ask you?

And you might want to remember to keep an umbrella in the car, just in case the possible showers turn out to be a torrential downpour. Wearing soggy linen is neither smart-looking, nor particularly comfortable.

Enjoy the wedding. Don't be distracted from your enjoyment of the occasion by foolish worries that you're not dressed properly.
--
Michael

ter1413 · Apr 18, 2012

12345Michael54321 said:
It's springtime, you'll be in Mississippi, and the temperature will exceed 70 degrees. You can wear the line suit, if you want. Assuming - temperature aside - that a linen suit is an appropriate choice for the wedding, of course.
They're not ideal linen suit conditions, but it's not like you're asking about wearing seersucker to a Christmas party, or heavy tweed to a 4th of July barbecue. Nobody will have any cause to think you're clueless and have no idea how to dress.
Oh, and [COLOR=FF00AA]wear a bow tie, please. If a man can't get away with wearing a bow tie with a linen suit to a wedding in Mississippi, just when can he wear one, I ask you?[/COLOR]
And you might want to remember to keep an umbrella in the car, just in case the possible showers turn out to be a torrential downpour. Wearing soggy linen is neither smart-looking, nor particularly comfortable.
Enjoy the wedding. Don't be distracted from your enjoyment of the occasion by foolish worries that you're not dressed properly.
--
Michael

Winston S. · Apr 18, 2012

12345Michael54321 said:
And you might want to remember to keep an umbrella in the car, just in case the possible showers turn out to be a torrential downpour. Wearing soggy linen is neither smart-looking, nor particularly comfortable.

At least he won't smell like wet wool if his linen suit gets wet.

12345Michael54321 · Apr 18, 2012

Granted, a wet wool suit is no fun, either. And yes, ideally a man will try to avoid getting drenched, regardless of the composition of his suit. But if I knew there were a good chance that I'd be getting rained upon, I'd absolutely prefer to be wearing a wool suit, than a linen suit.

Probably not a major consideration for an indoor wedding, unless for some reason an unusual amount of walking outdoors will be involved. Umbrellas are good, but they don't englobe one in a magical force field which no raindrop can penetrate. And in general, if it's warm enough that I'd want to wear a linen suit, it's warm enough that I'd just as soon not be wearing a raincoat.
--
Michael

Cordwinder · Apr 18, 2012

patrickBOOTH said:
The suit is fine, but a lime green shirt and a light blue tie? No. Wear a white shirt, or a light blue shirt with a grey, or midnight navy tie. The white linen square is always acceptable, however don't make it look too neat like that. Fold it without thinking too much and shove it in, no fancy points.

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my first post.
I thought of wearing a navy suit in the same style as the suit in the picture, with a lime green shirt and light blue shirt. My bags are packed already, I didn't want to unpack my suit just to take a picture.
I'm attending a family wedding. I wanted to dress a little differently from everyone else. Maybe a lime green shirt is already different enough. But I did pack a white shirt just in case I wimp out.

Thank you for your advice.

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