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post #27706 of 30956
thanks mimo! I am slowly becoming educated in the world of pants lol
post #27707 of 30956

xposting from the tailor thread, 

 

 

 

 

 

JCrew Ludlow - This is probably one of the better fitting suits off the rack that I've bought, but the jacket still looked a little boxy to me.  I have an 8-9" drop so I took it in to have the waist taken in just slightly.  I also had the sleeves and the pants shortened just a little bit.  Now I've been sitting here looking at the pictures and I can't help but fear it'll come back looking too small.  What do you think?  based on these before pictures, were these alterations warranted?  I can always call my tailor and cancel.  Anything else that sticks out to you guys?

post #27708 of 30956
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Originally Posted by sixfiveoh View Post

xposting from the tailor thread, 









 







JCrew Ludlow - This is probably one of the better fitting suits off the rack that I've bought, but the jacket still looked a little boxy to me.  I have an 8-9" drop so I took it in to have the waist taken in just slightly.  I also had the sleeves and the pants shortened just a little bit.  Now I've been sitting here looking at the pictures and I can't help but fear it'll come back looking too small.  What do you think?  based on these before pictures, were these alterations warranted?  I can always call my tailor and cancel.  Anything else that sticks out to you guys?


Looks good to me.
The lapels look too narrow , but you can't do anything about that.
post #27709 of 30956
Ok, I'm looking for accessories help. I'll probably be wearing the following suit / tie combo for my wedding (would this work with a similarly colored bowtie, or would that look silly?):



I will also be wearing a white lilly of the valley lapel flower and black park aves.

I am considering adding to this (1) a pocket square; (2) a white shirt; and (3) cufflinks. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

(1) Pocket Square

I was thinking about this one (kent wang, leaf pattern on white). My concern is that a white pocket square + white lapel flower could be too much?



(2) White Shirt

Any tips on where to get a nice white shirt? Collar should flatter a somewhat narrower face. My size is 14.5 so picking one up at CT isn't an option (they only stock 15 and up at their store). My budget's about $75 and my main preference, besides fit and look, is that the shirt breaths well and wears cool.

(3) Cufflinks

I'm leaning towards a french cuff shirt (I don't normally wear them but it feels like a fun way to dress up a bit more as a groom). If so, will getting blue cufflinks be too "matchy-matchy" with my blue tie? I was considering these (Kent wang guilloche enamel, $55, I think a bit flashier than they look in the pic given the pattern):



I have 9 days, so online MTM for the shirt at least is out of the question.

Thanks!!!
post #27710 of 30956

You have nine days before you get married, you're not sure about wearing your lounge suit, and you're thinking of ordering a shirt and some accessories online?

 

You are out of your mind.

 

Having established that, first let's give you the correct answer, which is that you should be wearing a morning suit for a daytime wedding.  For an evening wedding, a dinner suit (tuxedo) would be fine, or if you want to wear a lounge suit, then it should be a dark one.

 

Now, assuming that you're ignoring all of the above and wearing your light grey three button suit as shown above, then we clearly have limited resources with which to work.  But as we're supposed to give helpful answers, work with it we will.  I'm guessing you're young, she's pregnant, and there's some talk of firearms in the lead up to this sudden nuptual, so no more lecturing from me:

 

- The Styleforum orthodoxy is that with a three button suit, you only fasten the middle button.  However, you desperately need to make this suit as formal as possible.  So, after you've had it cleaned and pressed, do up the top two buttons.  It will give it a more structured look.  

 

- You might consider (Lord forgive me) pretending it's a morning coat and putting a non-matching waistcoat (vest) underneath it.  If your wedding is in the daytime, try to find a cream or light beige, or even light blue.  Dark grey or navy would work in the evening.

 

- Go with that white pocket square, and a white double-cuffed shirt as you suggest.  With a grey suit, the simple clean look will make it look smarter.  Any white cotton shirt will do, just make sure it fits you nicely - and comfortably.  With the combined terror of marriage, impending fatherhood and your armed in-laws, you'll be sweating enough without a too-tight collar choking you too..on which note...

 

- Wear a nice new, lightweight cotton, white undershirt - the T-shirt kind.  It will make your shirt and suit stay fresher and in shape if you do get a bit hot and nervous.  Really, it's America's gift to the world, use it.

 

- Get some over the calf socks - dark grey, black, navy, whatever.  They will not fall down and therefore you will look smarter.

 

- Your flower and black Park Avenues are perfectly appropriate. You might want to look for advice on this forum on how to shine them to an insane degree.  Or invest in a "spit shine" from your local shoe-shine expert, if there is one.

 

- Your navy tie is fine, and a navy bow tie would be too, especially if you do add a waistcoat.  Burgundy also looks great with grey, but as it's a wedding, plain shiny navy seems like a nice choice.

 

- Nothing wrong with the cufflinks.  They are double-ended which is a good thing.  Kent Wang is quick and reliable with shipping too.

 

- If you have one, wear a nice watch.  If your watch plays tunes, is shock-proof, solar-powered and nuclear-resistant, then don't wear it.

 

Good luck.  Yes, you may call the baby "Mimo" but it will not thank you.

post #27711 of 30956
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

You have nine days before you get married, you're not sure about wearing your lounge suit, and you're thinking of ordering a shirt and some accessories online?

You are out of your mind.

Having established that, first let's give you the correct answer, which is that you should be wearing a morning suit for a daytime wedding.  For an evening wedding, a dinner suit (tuxedo) would be fine, or if you want to wear a lounge suit, then it should be a dark one.

Now, assuming that you're ignoring all of the above and wearing your light grey three button suit as shown above, then we clearly have limited resources with which to work.  But as we're supposed to give helpful answers, work with it we will.  I'm guessing you're young, she's pregnant, and there's some talk of firearms in the lead up to this sudden nuptual, so no more lecturing from me:

- The Styleforum orthodoxy is that with a three button suit, you only fasten the middle button.  However, you desperately need to make this suit as formal as possible.  So, after you've had it cleaned and pressed, do up the top two buttons.  It will give it a more structured look.  

- You might consider (Lord forgive me) pretending it's a morning coat and putting a non-matching waistcoat (vest) underneath it.  If your wedding is in the daytime, try to find a cream or light beige, or even light blue.  Dark grey or navy would work in the evening.

- Go with that white pocket square, and a white double-cuffed shirt as you suggest.  With a grey suit, the simple clean look will make it look smarter.  Any white cotton shirt will do, just make sure it fits you nicely - and comfortably.  With the combined terror of marriage, impending fatherhood and your armed in-laws, you'll be sweating enough without a too-tight collar choking you too..on which note...

- Wear a nice new, lightweight cotton, white undershirt - the T-shirt kind.  It will make your shirt and suit stay fresher and in shape if you do get a bit hot and nervous.  Really, it's America's gift to the world, use it.

- Get some over the calf socks - dark grey, black, navy, whatever.  They will not fall down and therefore you will look smarter.

- Your flower and black Park Avenues are perfectly appropriate. You might want to look for advice on this forum on how to shine them to an insane degree.  Or invest in a "spit shine" from your local shoe-shine expert, if there is one.

- Your navy tie is fine, and a navy bow tie would be too, especially if you do add a waistcoat.  Burgundy also looks great with grey, but as it's a wedding, plain shiny navy seems like a nice choice.

- If you have one, wear a nice watch.  If your watch plays tunes, is shock-proof, solar-powered and nuclear-resistant, then don't wear it.

Good luck.  Yes, you may call the baby "Mimo" but it will not thank you.

I love it. Seriously. Ok, so I am wearing that suit (sorry to be unclear). This is for a backyard daytime wedding, and my goal was to be fairly formal without broiling in the hot Maryland sun (and I didn't want to do a morning suite). Doing a mid-light grey like this seemed to be the consensus at styleforum and SS when I had asked previously. In any event, it's too late to switch that. I like the 3 roll 2 look, and will probably not be pressing the suit to allow for the top two buttons to be buttoned.

I want to stay away from the waistcoat -- besides the fact that I doubt I can find one and get one fitted in time for the wedding, I want to avoid the extra layer for heat-purposes. Because being too hot is one of my top concerns. Given that, I'd assume you'd recommend going the tie (and not bowtie) look? I take it you like the one I have in my pics?

Re watches, I have a fairly nice-looking white-faced seiko 5 on a brownish-red leather band. Is it worth getting a black leather band to match my shoes/belt for the wedding, or can I stick with brown?

And thoughts about the cufflinks?

I appreciate all of the rest of your feedback smile.gif
post #27712 of 30956

Glad you have a sense of humour!

 

For me the three-roll-two look is another step down in casual, but if you like it, then  waistcoat would look odd.  As would a bow tie, I think - I wear them sometimes with less formal outfits, but I can't see it quite sitting right.  I think I mentioned that the cufflinks are fine, and from what I can see of it, the tie too.  Light grey for a sunny daytime wedding is indeed the best colour, I agree.

 

Nothing wrong with a Seiko 5 - perfectly respectable mechanical watch.  Sure, a ten dollar black leather strap might be a touch smarter, but no need to be uptight about it if it's just one more thing you really don't need to do.  

 

Just one more thing: go easy on the aftershave, especially if it's warm.  It's a horrible thing to choke on someone's Brut 33 when you're all gathered together on a hot day.  Stick deodorant unscented, and just a touch of your usual perfume - the day's special enough without asphyxiation.

 

Best of luck to you and your missus, and the baby. And don't be afraid, it's nice being married, not having to take all those decisions for yourself any more.  I'm thinking of doing it again. :)

post #27713 of 30956
I think a light grey suit is great for a less formal day time wedding. That's what I wore to mine.
post #27714 of 30956
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Originally Posted by abl View Post

my goal was to be fairly formal without broiling in the hot Maryland sun
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I want to avoid the extra layer for heat-purposes. Because being too hot is one of my top concerns.

Look, I dislike warm weather. A lot. I'm much happier in January than I am in July. And I even know that summer heat kills far, far more people than does winter cold.

But for Dog's sake man, it's May. Not August. And it's Maryland. Not Death Valley.

Looking at the National Weather Service's forecast for my own little corner of Baltimore County, Maryland, for the coming week, there's not a single day which is predicted to have a high temperature exceeding 73 degrees. And not even I worry about "broiling in the hot Maryland sun," on a day when the high barely nudges into the 70's. No, not even when I'm wearing a suit and tie (which is most days).

True, I don't normally wear a waistcoat, but again - temps in the lower part of the 70's. A waistcoat could certainly be endured, if you were inclined to wear one.

"Oh, but that's only a 7-day forecast. My wedding's in 9 days," you say. "And what if the National Weather Service is completely wrong, like off by 20 degrees or more, and it's 95 degrees and humid on my wedding day?"

Dude, if you're that paranoid about the weather, you had no business opting for an outdoor wedding in the first place. Why in the world didn't you go for an indoor, climate-controlled wedding?

Wear an undershirt. And put on some antiperspirant/deodorant. And quit worrying about the broiling, killing, planet Mercury at high noon where Robot SPD-13 runs around a pool of molten selenium, heat of Maryland in May. (Although come summer, yeah, I'll complain about the hot, muggy, horrible weather here. Such complaints are in season then.)
post #27715 of 30956
Average high for the date of my wedding at the location is 79, and the predicted temperature right now is 80. I think average humidity is usually ~60% and the predicted is around 70%. In any event, most of my weather-related decisions have been made at this point.
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Look, I dislike warm weather. A lot. I'm much happier in January than I am in July. And I even know that summer heat kills far, far more people than does winter cold.

But for Dog's sake man, it's May. Not August. And it's Maryland. Not Death Valley.

Looking at the National Weather Service's forecast for my own little corner of Baltimore County, Maryland, for the coming week, there's not a single day which is predicted to have a high temperature exceeding 73 degrees. And not even I worry about "broiling in the hot Maryland sun," on a day when the high barely nudges into the 70's. No, not even when I'm wearing a suit and tie (which is most days).

True, I don't normally wear a waistcoat, but again - temps in the lower part of the 70's. A waistcoat could certainly be endured, if you were inclined to wear one.

"Oh, but that's only a 7-day forecast. My wedding's in 9 days," you say. "And what if the National Weather Service is completely wrong, like off by 20 degrees or more, and it's 95 degrees and humid on my wedding day?"

Dude, if you're that paranoid about the weather, you had no business opting for an outdoor wedding in the first place. Why in the world didn't you go for an indoor, climate-controlled wedding?

Wear an undershirt. And put on some antiperspirant/deodorant. And quit worrying about the broiling, killing, planet Mercury at high noon where Robot SPD-13 runs around a pool of molten selenium, heat of Maryland in May. (Although come summer, yeah, I'll complain about the hot, muggy, horrible weather here. Such complaints are in season then.)
post #27716 of 30956

What would you say are the 4 most essential/versatile pairs of pants someone could own- working in a mostly business casual environment.

 

After doing some research, I would think that 

 

Medium grey flannel trousers

Khaki chinos

 

might be on the list?

post #27717 of 30956
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Originally Posted by bklyndoc12 View Post
 

What would you say are the 4 most essential/versatile pairs of pants someone could own- working in a mostly business casual environment.

 

After doing some research, I would think that 

 

Medium grey flannel trousers

Khaki chinos

 

might be on the list?

 

Navy as well as brown. 

post #27718 of 30956

Those two starters are right on the money I think, BK.  I'd add something light grey, either flannel too or perhaps lighter weight than flannel but still wool, and maybe a tan pair in a similarly light wool.  Between those four you have all kinds of versatility with odd jackets, and any level of formality an odd jacket would allow.

 

Browns are nice, but lighter is easier.  Navy is actually pretty hard to pair with an odd jacket - it's a bit of a SF cliche how awkward that is.  If you do get navy trousers, light grey jackets are their best friend - which in turn can be hard to use.

post #27719 of 30956
Quote:
Originally Posted by bklyndoc12 View Post

What would you say are the 4 most essential/versatile pairs of pants someone could own- working in a mostly business casual environment.

After doing some research, I would think that 

Medium grey flannel trousers
Khaki chinos

might be on the list?

Consider bright yellow and raw silk.
Best hemmed by hand.
post #27720 of 30956

Not here, Pickle, please.

 

Take yourself back to the PC thread, and bait the twelve-fingered vintage hand-fiddling grandmothers of Calabria as you see fit. :)

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