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post #26176 of 33197
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post


I wouldn't. I think the jacket is way too city/modern for an ocbd.

Just the gray shade, and the bit of shine on it will clash.

Really I'll only wear an ocbd with tweed or a brass button blazer.

J

I don't agree.  The patch pockets make it more casual, as does the deconstructed shoulders, etc.  Being dark grey makes it less versatile however.  Of course, it can be dressed up or down, depending upon how it is accessorized. 

post #26177 of 33197
The terms balmoral and oxford are used synonymously, referring to closd laced dress shoes. I think one word is more commonly British and the other American (not sure which).

However, there is an older, more specific use of the term balmoral, to refer to an oxford with a side seam running across to the back of the shoe, also called a galosh (which is different than the other common use of the term galosh, which refers to rubber overshoes like Swims).

Here's an example of a balmoral/galosh oxford:
post #26178 of 33197

I need some staple wool flannel pants since I have too many patterned ones at the moment.  I came across Howard Yount and I know they're a sponsor on these forums and I believe well regarded.  Can any of you speak for their wool flannel pants or their English Tweed pants?  Or possibly recommend another maker?  

post #26179 of 33197
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post
 

I need some staple wool flannel pants since I have too many patterned ones at the moment.  I came across Howard Yount and I know they're a sponsor on these forums and I believe well regarded.  Can any of you speak for their wool flannel pants or their English Tweed pants?  Or possibly recommend another maker?  

 

PRL has some really nice flannel pants by corneliani.

post #26180 of 33197

Make sure you look at the measurements closely for HY pants.  They're not really cut for bigger guys.

post #26181 of 33197
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Originally Posted by gringodaddy View Post
 

Make sure you look at the measurements closely for HY pants.  They're not really cut for bigger guys.

son of a bitch... I just looked. :brick: 

 

Edit, I did find a couple in my size. Something doesn't add up.  I'm looking on their size chart and with my waist (38") they show knee measurements as 10.25 and thigh at 13.5.  It looks like based on the picture this is around, but I can't imagine that to be the case.  I couldn't fit my arm in a 10.25" around hole.  I sent them a message to see whats up.  I understand not being cut for bigger guys but those are toothpick/anorexic measurements.


Edited by jungleroller - 1/29/14 at 10:21am
post #26182 of 33197
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post

Well, what exactly is a balmoral then?
J
See post in my sig.
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Originally Posted by gringodaddy View Post

An Oxford. It's colloquial, like soda instead of pop
It's actually not. I'd say it's similar to calling all sparkling wine, champagne, which they all are not. Not a great example, but can't think of one better.
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

To be iGent safe, I would refer to shoes as either open-laced or close-laced...
Bingo!
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Originally Posted by RyanM View Post

The terms balmoral and oxford are used synonymously, referring to closd laced dress shoes. I think one word is more commonly British and the other American (not sure which).

However, there is an older, more specific use of the term balmoral, to refer to an oxford with a side seam running across to the back of the shoe, also called a galosh (which is different than the other common use of the term galosh, which refers to rubber overshoes like Swims).

Here's an example of a balmoral/galosh oxford: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Agreed, they are used synonymously, but they shouldn't be. I've read that the English usually use balmoral and Americans use oxford. The latter is what I am referring to. Balmorals should be treated the same we treat Adelaides, which are also a type of oxford, but not a balmoral.
post #26183 of 33197
I give up. I'm sorry I asked.

If we can't get 2 people here to agree, there is no point in carrying it over to the outside world.

J
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^
I agree with Churchill W, does that count?
post #26185 of 33197

How do i ask for round quarters on a blazer. Something like Liverano & Liverano cut but just as not extreme. MTM by kent wang. Just not sure what the correct terms is to get this done. Something like this but not as extreme. Thinking about making the quarters  -1.5cm on each side. Thanks. 

 

http://www.tinaloves.com/tag/antonio-liverano/

post #26186 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Hardep Singh View Post

How do i ask for round quarters on a blazer.
Purely a guess on my part, but why don't you contact the appropriate person at Kent Wang, and tell him exactly what you told us in your post, and provide him with the same picture?

I've no idea as to the specific details involved in purchasing a MTM blazer from Kent Wang, but I have to assume that if you communicate your desires clearly, with examples, you'll get at least some sort of response from them. Your next step would depend on what sort of response you receive.
post #26187 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Churchill W View Post


See post in my sig.
It's actually not. I'd say it's similar to calling all sparkling wine, champagne, which they all are not. Not a great example, but can't think of one better.
Bingo!
Agreed, they are used synonymously, but they shouldn't be. I've read that the English usually use balmoral and Americans use oxford. The latter is what I am referring to. Balmorals should be treated the same we treat Adelaides, which are also a type of oxford, but not a balmoral.

actually, that is a good analogy.  you are right, all sparkling wine aren't Champagne, but in common usage, for many people they are.  Just like most people use bal/oxford interchangeably.  Doesn't make it technically correct of course. 

post #26188 of 33197
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Originally Posted by gringodaddy View Post
 

actually, that is a good analogy.  you are right, all sparkling wine aren't Champagne, but in common usage, for many people they are.  Just like most people use bal/oxford interchangeably.  Doesn't make it technically correct of course. 


People use sportcoat and jacket colloquially too and I got into trouble for that on Ebay recently...

post #26189 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Hardep Singh View Post
 

How do i ask for round quarters on a blazer. Something like Liverano & Liverano cut but just as not extreme. MTM by kent wang. Just not sure what the correct terms is to get this done. Something like this but not as extreme. Thinking about making the quarters  -1.5cm on each side. Thanks. 

 

http://www.tinaloves.com/tag/antonio-liverano/

That picture you linked is not flattering at all.

post #26190 of 33197
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post


People use sportcoat and jacket colloquially too and I got into trouble for that on Ebay recently...
I could see that.

Between odd jacket, orphan jacket, sports coat, blazer, suit jacket, or simply jacket, there is a lot of hair splitting...
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