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post #25711 of 33197

I frequent a few other forums and have figured these things out over the years...  But I agree it would help save everyone a lot of headaches :fistbump: 

 

FYI there is a new Forum Support, I'm not sure how old or up to date it is though as I read some posts about the forum changing in 2011.... but for what its worth:

http://www.styleforum.net/f/20389/new-forum-support

post #25712 of 33197
Who is a good maker of exotic leather shoes? Alligator, ostrich, etc...
post #25713 of 33197
How does the quality of PRL ties compare to Brooks ties?
post #25714 of 33197

Someone with more knowledge of construction will be able to give a better answer, but just from my personal collection, PRL ties are vastly better than BB. I feel that BB ties are just a notch above ordinary store brands, PRL ones just seem, feel, and look vastly better.

 

J

post #25715 of 33197

Wished I would have seen this before posting.....

 

This might be very obvious to most of you, but since I left the great state of Texas I'm not as connected to the sartorial cognoscenti to help answer the questions that do pop up from time to time.

 

Therefore, help a guy out.

 

I've seen a few knots that are plainly works of art but I can't seem to replicate this certain one and it's been bugging me.

 

For example, Ron Rifkin in the TV show Alias frequently used this compact, roundish yet remarkably pinched at the bottom kind of knot. I'm sure it was a full/half windsor but nothing doing. Can't manage to make it happen.

 

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1573895424/nm0726492?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_1

 

The ones I'm referring to are "rounder" and more pinched where the tie exits than the one in the link.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Eric

post #25716 of 33197

Yeah tha could very well be a full windsor.  Check this video out here showing how to tie a Windsor.  There are videos showing other knots as well on the site.

post #25717 of 33197
I find a lot of it has to do with the tie; you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Many a tie have I bought because I liked the way it looked in the store only to get it home and futz with it for 15 minutes trying to get a decent looking knot.

J
post #25718 of 33197
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post
 

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FYI there is a new Forum Support, I'm not sure how old or up to date it is though as I read some posts about the forum changing in 2011.... but for what its worth:

http://www.styleforum.net/f/20389/new-forum-support

 

Thanks.  That looks like it could be useful.  I've bookmarked it.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #25719 of 33197

Edit: Moved to Streetwear and Denim Thread 

post #25720 of 33197
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post
 

What are the advantages/disadvantages or purpose of Tie Construction like this?

 

 

I have a Conrad Wu Tie that is like this towards the end of the wide end and it seems to roll up when I sit and since it has no structure to it, it kind of stays that way.  Curled up a little.  

 

Isn't that just a seven-fold?

post #25721 of 33197
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post

What are the advantages/disadvantages or purpose of Tie Construction like this?




I have a Conrad Wu Tie that is like this towards the end of the wide end and it seems to roll up when I sit and since it has no structure to it, it kind of stays that way.  Curled up a little.  

Which Wu do you have?

Im not yet sure what I feel about untipped ties. I suspect that they should be lighter, more airy and that this will be felt in the drape. I bet someone in the Noodles thread has this tie and can tell you how it drapes.

On the Wu ties, I opted for shantung. Haven't worn them yet but did tie them. The knot easily but the shantung is very dry and stiff so I expect the effect you describe. Tipping might help eliminate that but I think it's more the fabric. Looking at the Panta not sure it will have the same problem but that's a guess, fabric looks softer.

Anyway guessing your instinct is right, the untiping will make it overall more pliable, in good and bad ways
post #25722 of 33197

I have a Conrad Wu shantung, and a Panta of the same type as that above - slightly different colour.  The shantung is indeed stiff and could get a "tie boner" I suppose, although I haven't noticed it.  Must be sitting differently!  The Panta certainly doesn't - it's extremely light and thin.

 

Theoretically, the advantage of an unlined six/seven-fold tie like the Panta is that is drapes more naturally and has more character.  In practice, the main advantage is probably telling your friends on SF about your great tie, because nobody else will notice.

 

It's true that a lined tie can look a bit solid and stiff, and that's not usually good.  But some ties are also unlined at the bottom for the natural look, while lined in the rest of the tie to give more structure and an easier knot.

post #25723 of 33197
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

I have a Conrad Wu shantung, and a Panta of the same type as that above - slightly different colour.  The shantung is indeed stiff and could get a "tie boner" I suppose, although I haven't noticed it.  Must be sitting differently!  The Panta certainly doesn't - it's extremely light and thin.

 

Theoretically, the advantage of an unlined six/seven-fold tie like the Panta is that is drapes more naturally and has more character.  In practice, the main advantage is probably telling your friends on SF about your great tie, because nobody else will notice.

 

It's true that a lined tie can look a bit solid and stiff, and that's not usually good.  But some ties are also unlined at the bottom for the natural look, while lined in the rest of the tie to give more structure and an easier knot.


The drape, the knot, and the proportions (aside from fabric and pattern...what else)? The issue of untipped, hand rolled edges, n-fold on their own shouldn't, I think, tip the balance, unless they contribute to the overall aesthetic of how it looks and feels. So, I'm not convinced about untipping or handrolled edges for their own sake, but hard to know how the tie will go unless one wearw them. Will report back on the Conrad Wu ties once I start wearing them. But they look good on others.

 

Mimo do you have a pic of yours?

 

Jungleroller: to your question some threads back, these might have worked nicely with the last suit (and might still be available directly from Drake's)

 

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Terracotta-Pure-Cashmere-Solid-Tie.html

 

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Rust-Handrolled-Woven-Shetland-Wool-Tie.html

post #25724 of 33197

Can someone recommend an all-natural skincare and haircare brand for men? I am looking for something made of all natural products with no artificial products whatsoever. Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance!

 

Jon

post #25725 of 33197
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

Alden shoes marked b/d are narrow in the toebox right?

 

Not necessarily.  While the first letter is, in fact, a reference to heel size, in the vast majority of cases, Alden (and other manufactures uses the "two letter" designation) list a heel width exactly two letters more narrow than the ball width. It is sort of a default.   In other words, most Alden x D's are marked B/D, most x E's are marked C/E, etc.  Rarely have I seen a "spread" of more than two letters, e.g. A/D or B/E.

 

In any event, neither letter relates directly to toe box width.  My Alden's on their Aberdeen last are designated C/E, i.e. a spread of two letters, and the toe box is quite spacious.

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