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post #24766 of 33197
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Originally Posted by mrhoangng View Post

Guys, I have a question to ask.

Long story short, I bought a suit from Hackett last Friday with all of the alterations done in house. So far they have managed to screw up twice; first time (yesterday) was forget to send the trouser to the tailor for it to be tapered and the second time (today) I realise they haven't done anything to the waist at all.

Now would I be too evil/unethical to ask for a refund on the alterations charges for the trouser? I mean I honestly don't expect this to happen; especially for a retailer of this calibre and this is their flagship store by the way.

Thanks all.

Can't you take the trousers back to hackett and get them to do the waist too?
post #24767 of 33197
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Originally Posted by MMoon24 View Post
 

Just came back from the Burberry store. My friend who works there is offering me a 50% discount on whatever suit I purchase along with any additional tailoring being taken care of. I have two questions...

 

http://us.burberry.com/slim-fit-virgin-wool-silk-suit-p38691481

 

1. I will be using this suit for evening/formal events. Mind you, in my culture, we don't wear tuxedos to weddings, so this suit may also come in handy for those situations.

 

2. Burberry doesn't sell matching vests. If I choose to go 3 piece, any advice on what vest I should look for to ensure it doesn't look too off?

 

3. Can I get away with wearing this at work as well? I noticed it has some silk in it, giving it a bit of a shiny effect.

 

Don't buy it.  It's real fashion-victim stuff with those tiny lapels and skinny trousers.  I'm sure the cloth is fine for all the uses you mentioned, it's the suit that's not.  Discount or not, don't by the brand - buy the suit.  This will look silly fairly soon as fashions inevitably change - and to my mind does already.  Go for a medium sized lapel, slightly higher waist and straighter trousers, perhaps a double vent (though I know single is popular in the US).  And if you can't slip your flat hand comfortably inside when the top button is done up, it's too tight (conversely, if your fist fits in there easily, it's too loose).

post #24768 of 33197
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Originally Posted by MMoon24 View Post

Just came back from the Burberry store. My friend who works there is offering me a 50% discount on whatever suit I purchase along with any additional tailoring being taken care of.

put it this way... you can get a hell of a lot nicer and more versatile suit for $650.
post #24769 of 33197
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

Don't buy it.  It's real fashion-victim stuff with those tiny lapels and skinny trousers.  I'm sure the cloth is fine for all the uses you mentioned, it's the suit that's not.  Discount or not, don't by the brand - buy the suit.  This will look silly fairly soon as fashions inevitably change - and to my mind does already.  Go for a medium sized lapel, slightly higher waist and straighter trousers, perhaps a double vent (though I know single is popular in the US).  And if you can't slip your flat hand comfortably inside when the top button is done up, it's too tight (conversely, if your fist fits in there easily, it's too loose).


Agreed; this is good advice.

 

That model is wafer thin and the trousers look pretty bad on him, like skinny jeans! 600 dollars for that, let alone 1,200? If you want Burberry, some of the older stuff is better, with the US suits made by Hickey Freeman, I think, generally half-canvased. Often turns up on Ebay or in consignment shops.

 

That said, I'm older, so maybe that is skewing how I look at this.

 

If you really like the look, I think you could find much cheaper at Zara or even J. Crew. Fabrics might be worse, but the look would be the same. But for the price of the Burberry at discount, you might just buy a suit a Suit Supply which are a bit fashion forward, but at least often still classic enough. Or check out Yoox who have Burberry on occasion.

post #24770 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Oysters View Post
 

REPOST - no one seemed to notice :(

 

Okay, so my Johnston and Murphy Aragon II tassel loafers just arrived, and I promised I'd post some pictures.  

 

What I'm trying to figure out is if these shoes are actually full-grain leather, as they are advertised on the website (http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?pid=65489&search=aragon).  

 

I don't think I've ever actually seen a full-grain shoe (and if I did then I didn't know) so bear with me..

 

They do look a bit shiny and plasticky (I don't know if they're supposed to look like this), but the leather certainly feels nicer and less "plasticky" than my other shoes - Clarks Chilton Lace - which I happen to know ARE corrected grain.  

 

The evidence:

 

 

 

 

 

 

AppleMark

 

If anyone has any general comments on whether the leather does appear to be full-grain, whether it is good quality leather or just whether the shoe is good in general, please reply.  Thank you.  

 

P.S.  I know you all want to bash J&M - but they were $99, come on!


I think even for $150 you could do better (e.g. Allen Edmonds: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Sale_1_40000000001_-1_______132809__1000_?facet=Styles:Tassel+Loafers)

 

Or if you look out for sales or even the B&S forum here. Not advocating the AEs but they are generally a step above or two of J&M.

 

Heck, if you can swing it: http://www.theshoemart.com/carmina-mens_duncan_black/pvc-cam-mxs-734-004_cam_m_duncan.html

 

But look, as the others have said, if you like them, that's all that matters. If you're on the fence, then I would definitely return them and look for something of better quality, save up for it. I've made enough mistakes about buying cheap and regretting it within 6 months. OK, back to grading...

post #24771 of 33197

As a glutton for punishment, I actually like kiltie loafers :)

 

If you like them and they go with what you want to wear them with then enjoy them, especially if you like the price. You can play the 'but for just 50 dollars more...' game forever.

post #24772 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Oysters View Post

REPOST - no one seemed to notice frown.gif

Okay, so my Johnston and Murphy Aragon II tassel loafers just arrived, and I promised I'd post some pictures.  

What I'm trying to figure out is if these shoes are actually full-grain leather, as they are advertised on the website (http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?pid=65489&search=aragon).  

I don't think I've ever actually seen a full-grain shoe (and if I did then I didn't know) so bear with me..

They do look a bit shiny and plasticky (I don't know if they're supposed to look like this), but the leather certainly feels nicer and less "plasticky" than my other shoes - Clarks Chilton Lace - which I happen to know ARE corrected grain.  

The evidence:


















AppleMark


If anyone has any general comments on whether the leather does appear to be full-grain, whether it is good quality leather or just whether the shoe is good in general, please reply.  Thank you.  

P.S.  I know you all want to bash J&M - but they were $99, come on!

OK, if you insist. The leather looks cheap. The two-layer apron looks odd. The stitching is bizarre and way too heavy for the shoe. The designer of the shoe attempted to make some sort of fashion statement and he missed. I would not wear them if you gave them to me.
post #24773 of 33197
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

Don't buy it.  It's real fashion-victim stuff with those tiny lapels and skinny trousers.  I'm sure the cloth is fine for all the uses you mentioned, it's the suit that's not.  Discount or not, don't by the brand - buy the suit.  This will look silly fairly soon as fashions inevitably change - and to my mind does already.  Go for a medium sized lapel, slightly higher waist and straighter trousers, perhaps a double vent (though I know single is popular in the US).  And if you can't slip your flat hand comfortably inside when the top button is done up, it's too tight (conversely, if your fist fits in there easily, it's too loose).

 

I really appreciate the advice. To be honest, I did like how it looked on me, but then again, I'm a total newb, so I wouldn't know what I'm looking for in a suit. I tried Brooks Brothers last week, but they didn't have the Milano line available at their store.

 

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Originally Posted by TweedyProf View Post
 


Agreed; this is good advice.

 

That model is wafer thin and the trousers look pretty bad on him, like skinny jeans! 600 dollars for that, let alone 1,200? If you want Burberry, some of the older stuff is better, with the US suits made by Hickey Freeman, I think, generally half-canvased. Often turns up on Ebay or in consignment shops.

 

That said, I'm older, so maybe that is skewing how I look at this.

 

If you really like the look, I think you could find much cheaper at Zara or even J. Crew. Fabrics might be worse, but the look would be the same. But for the price of the Burberry at discount, you might just buy a suit a Suit Supply which are a bit fashion forward, but at least often still classic enough. Or check out Yoox who have Burberry on occasion.

 

Haha, I guess I should have taken some pics, while at the store. In my opinion, it didn't look THAT skinny on me. I'm 5'10, 165, and overall an athletic build. It wasn't skin tight, as I still felt like I could breathe with it on. I am 23, so I guess I wouldn't want something so...regular looking I guess.

 

I have checked out Suit Supply and really like their stuff! The problem is that the Dallas location hasn't opened yet, and I'm really hesitant to order online. I would probably take it to a tailor, but I would still feel nervous about the whole situation.

 

 

 

 

post #24774 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Oysters View Post

REPOST - no one seemed to notice frown.gif

The silence was because nobody had anything nice to say, and in a remarkable turn of events for Styleforum we were being nice about it.
post #24775 of 33197
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Originally Posted by E,TF View Post


Really? The story I've heard is that the word khaki translates as " "sand" and was adopted by the British army in India to describe sandy coloured trousers.

 

Just a tangent on the khaki discussion from a few days ago.  I knew this but was too lazy to go and find the details, but the mood struck me today.

 

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"The Blue Puttees" and "The Glamour Boys"[edit]

Two current Canadian infantry regiments were given nicknames based on non-standard legwear: Newfoundland Regiment and the 48th Highlanders of Canada.

At the outbreak of World War I the Dominion of Newfoundland raised a regiment to fight. Lacking a local militia or garrison of soldiers, there were no military stores; uniforms had to be fashioned from scratch. Lacking khaki broadcloth, puttees were fashioned from blue broadcloth. The Newfoundland Regiment was thus nicknamed "The Blue Puttees".

During World War II, 1 Brigade of the 1st Canadian Division was being inspected by King George VI; there were not enough regulation khaki puttees for issue, so the 48th Highlanders made do with unofficial blue ones. The King inquired as to why the 48th wore different puttees from the rest of the brigade; he was told of the shortage. The King replied that he liked the blue puttees better and that they should keep them. The 48th Highlanders continued to wear blue puttees until the regimental service dress was eventually phased out. Reportedly other regiments nicknamed them as "The Glamour Boys" for this distinctive form of legging.

post #24776 of 33197

 

Too light of a shoe for a dark charcoal suit or does it work? Thanks. 

post #24777 of 33197
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Originally Posted by astrocyte View Post
 

 

Too light of a shoe for a dark charcoal suit or does it work? Thanks. 

 

Looks good to me.  A less formal look, but great unless you're going to a wedding, or court.

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Considering the worrying subsequent increase of animosity in every next post regarding my proposed loafers, I just want to say thank you to everyone who commented and I'll consider everyone's opinion.

 

 

 

<sigh>  I never do well on forums. 

post #24779 of 33197
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Originally Posted by Oysters View Post

Considering the worrying subsequent increase of animosity in every next post regarding my proposed loafers, I just want to say thank you to everyone who commented and I'll consider everyone's opinion.



 I never do well on forums. 

animosity - 1. Bitter hostility or open enmity; active hatred.

I saw no animosity in any response to your questions. You insisted that you wanted feedback. You received honest feedback on the shoes.
post #24780 of 33197
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Originally Posted by MMoon24 View Post
 

 

Haha, I guess I should have taken some pics, while at the store. In my opinion, it didn't look THAT skinny on me. I'm 5'10, 165, and overall an athletic build. It wasn't skin tight, as I still felt like I could breathe with it on. I am 23, so I guess I wouldn't want something so...regular looking I guess.

 

I have checked out Suit Supply and really like their stuff! The problem is that the Dallas location hasn't opened yet, and I'm really hesitant to order online. I would probably take it to a tailor, but I would still feel nervous about the whole situation.

 

 

 

 

I own a Burberry Milbury blazer that I wear a few times a month. I'm 6'0 and 140 lbs, and the lapels still look a little skinny. Also, you mention that you're an overall athletic build, Burberry--and other British houses for that matter--have strong shoulders with padding that aren't the best for athletic builds, and better for people with sloping shoulders. 

 

If you have the option of buying for $600, that's a reasonable deal as Burberry's fabrics are not that bad--better than what you'd see with Hugo Boss. But fit and a flattering silhouette outweighs fabrics and construction quality when buying a suit, so buyer beware.

 

Cheers

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