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post #24646 of 33005

I think chino's are appropriate where khaki's are, no?

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Originally Posted by MMoon24 View Post

are chinos appropriate for business casual?
"Business casual" is one of those terms which takes in an awful lot of ground. It can mean anything from "your jeans should be reasonably clean" to "a pale blue shirt and/or a conservative sport coat may be substituted for the standard white shirt and grey or navy suit."

Is it common and accepted practice for the people in your business casual workplace to wear chinos? If so, then I'd say chinos are appropriate for your office's version of business casual.
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


"Business casual" is one of those terms which takes in an awful lot of ground. It can mean anything from "your jeans should be reasonably clean" to "a pale blue shirt and/or a conservative sport coat may be substituted for the standard white shirt and grey or navy suit."

Is it common and accepted practice for the people in your business casual workplace to wear chinos? If so, then I'd say chinos are appropriate for your office's version of business casual.

i'd also say to just see what they are wear. if you are in a crunch, purchase trousers. it never hurts to have a solid pair anyways. i'm pretty sure no one will be like "whoa whoa man, trousers? really? you are WAY to overdressed. get out and only wear chinos when you come back" 

post #24649 of 33005
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

I think chino's are appropriate where khaki's are, no?
The two terms - chino and khaki - are basically used interchangeably as meaning the same thing, at least in much of the United States. (I throw in the "United States" bit, as for all I know it may be different in other countries.)

Technically, of course, one can also use "khaki" as a color description. For example, pants, belts, suits, etc., may all be khaki-colored. And it's equally true that not all chinos need be khaki-colored. (For that matter, not all khakis need be khaki-colored.)

But when one refers to pants as khakis, it's understood that the word is synonymous with chinos. And vice versa.
post #24650 of 33005
Are blue or black chinos also khakis?
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No, that would make no sense.

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No it really wouldn't.
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I can't for the life of me understand why people choose to wear chinos. It isn't any harder to put on a pair of decent trousers than a pair of Dockers. They are for walking the dog, or going grocery shopping, or maybe for grabbing a pint after you have been working on the house all day. I wouldn't wear them anywhere that jeans wouldn't also be acceptable.

 

I don't care if business casual is khakis and a polo shirt in your office, put on a damn pair of pants and a real shirt so you don't look like a gym teacher. 

 

In the interest of full disclosure, I don't work in an office of any sort, so you should probably just ignore this post as you would the inane ramblings of a crazy man.

 

J

post #24654 of 33005
Hi guys,

I have some questions about (dress) shirts.
  1. What is the general (or your) preferred way to store (dress) shirts: hanging or folded?
  2. When/why should i wear a shirt with a button-down collar?

Just wondering...
post #24655 of 33005

1. hanging

2. casual and with oxford cloth

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This may be a horribly stupid question but what is the difference between chinos and trousers? I'm still new to all this but I used to just think that chinos were cotton, trousers were woolen and never gave much though to anything else. Now I'm trying to 'dress like a man' and I've discovered a world of cotton suits, linen/silk/wool/etc pants, high rise and low rise, etc etc.
post #24657 of 33005
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Originally Posted by J011yroger View Post
 

I can't for the life of me understand why people choose to wear chinos. It isn't any harder to put on a pair of decent trousers than a pair of Dockers. They are for walking the dog, or going grocery shopping, or maybe for grabbing a pint after you have been working on the house all day. I wouldn't wear them anywhere that jeans wouldn't also be acceptable.

 

I don't care if business casual is khakis and a polo shirt in your office, put on a damn pair of pants and a real shirt so you don't look like a gym teacher. 

 

In the interest of full disclosure, I don't work in an office of any sort, so you should probably just ignore this post as you would the inane ramblings of a crazy man.

 

J

 

It depends... honestly.

At my last job, I wouldn't have felt comfortable dressing too well because my bosses didn't. Looking that much better than the bosses is weird.


Here, I can wear SC's/trousers to work everyday without people raising an eyebrow. At the previous gig, everyone would ask why I was dressed up. These two offices are in the same organization but in different departments. It really depends.

 

While I'm comfortable wearing SC's here, I wouldn't wear a suit here because that would put me on par with the people I work for. I don't want to do that because the difference in both our education and pay is worlds apart. So, I can dress as well as possible without going full on suit. I also won't wear shirts with cufflinks for the same reason.

post #24658 of 33005
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Originally Posted by ovlov View Post

This may be a horribly stupid question but what is the difference between chinos and trousers? I'm still new to all this but I used to just think that chinos were cotton, trousers were woolen and never gave much though to anything else. Now I'm trying to 'dress like a man' and I've discovered a world of cotton suits, linen/silk/wool/etc pants, high rise and low rise, etc etc.


I'd say that khaki's/chino's are separated from trousers/slacks by virtue of material and fit. Trousers/slacks are usually wool, which chino's are cotton. Cords are separate.

I was also under the impression that chinos were slimmer than khaki's which is how I distinguished them. Guess that was a false dichotomy!

 

Anyone more knowledgeable feel free to correct what are probably my copious errors.

post #24659 of 33005
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Originally Posted by DjangoV View Post

Hi guys,

I have some questions about (dress) shirts.
  1. What is the general (or your) preferred way to store (dress) shirts: hanging or folded?
  2. When/why should i wear a shirt with a button-down collar?

Just wondering...

1. Hanging

 

2. Casually; with jeans, chinos, a more casual suit (Tweed, Seersucker),  odd jackets, sweaters, shorts. It is one of the most casual button front shirts you can get, one step above a polo shirt, or a plaid flannel in terms of formality. Far too many people (Non sartorially inclined people that is) consider them dress shirts, when in fact they are way closer to a casual shirt. It is the most casual shirt you can wear with a suit, and though in the US it is often worn with business suits I feel that there are better choices.

 

J

post #24660 of 33005
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

 

It depends... honestly.

At my last job, I wouldn't have felt comfortable dressing too well because my bosses didn't. Looking that much better than the bosses is weird.


Here, I can wear SC's/trousers to work everyday without people raising an eyebrow. At the previous gig, everyone would ask why I was dressed up. These two offices are in the same organization but in different departments. It really depends.

 

While I'm comfortable wearing SC's here, I wouldn't wear a suit here because that would put me on par with the people I work for. I don't want to do that because the difference in both our education and pay is worlds apart. So, I can dress as well as possible without going full on suit. I also won't wear shirts with cufflinks for the same reason.

 

Dressing well is not a function of how formal you are. Don't confuse dressing well with dressing up.

 

If I go to the bar to catch some football, and I am wearing jeans, boots, and a plaid shirt, I am still dressed well, and I am dressed better than the ex-frat boys in suits who sell credit card processing services.

 

So within the realm of formality, you can still dress well. If a jacket and tie is too much, then trousers, nice shoes, and a shirt with maybe the cuffs turned up would be a well dressed alternative. If your boss is wearing a golf shirt, I am surely not advocating turning up in a three piece navy pinstripe suit, but I wouldn't dress like a bum just because my bosses looked like ragamuffins. If my golf shirt, pants, and shoes look nicer, and fit better than theirs, that is their problem. And honestly if they don't look good, they probably won't notice that you do, as long as you aren't the only one wearing a suit.

 

J

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