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post #23866 of 33081
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post
 

Bought a new Samuelsohn Twill SC last week and am looking forward to pairing it with something more formal than jeans. It's my fist grey jacket so I'll ask here if charcoal trousers and mid brown shoes ought to work? I'd post pics with those pants and shoes but I haven't bought them yet, need to do some shopping so I'm asking. Thanks All!

 

 

 

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1. Never wear those jeans again.  Maybe not any jeans.  The only person over 35 who looks good in jeans is Iggy Pop.  And you don't really want to look like Iggy Pop anyway.

 

2. Buy better shoes.  There is a whole world of shoe-love here that you should investigate.  Even if it's Allen Edmonds to start with.  But get rid of those ugly fuckers; nothing brings down an outfit faster (bar novelty ties, and arguably, your jeans).

 

3.  Grey jackets are notoriously hard to pair - I've given this some thought as I'm having one made right now.  I also wear a grey suit jacket on its own sometimes.  If the jacket were very light, you could go dark grey flannels, for instance.  Yours seems a little darker, so try it with beige/khaki chinos, olive or even navy.  In any of those cases, brown/tan shoes are a good call.  Just not yours. :)

 

1. You're wearing fuchsia socks. If you're wearing fuchsia socks then I'm keeping the jeans. Hugh Jackman is older than I am and the guy looks fantastic in jeans. Sure, he's a tall, rich, ridiculously handsome and talented likeable man in phenomenal shape but I'm ...  uhhhh.... I'm tall too and you're wearing fuchsia socks. I will however look for alternatives to jeans when it comes to pairing with SCs. I really like your call with the olive pants. I had a chance to see some Samuelsohn olive trousers next to that jacket and I thought that it might be a great, if not totally formal, look. I ordered them and am looking forward to having those colourful pants the next time I take my Salsa Dancing Trinidadian girlfriend to one of her clubs.

 

2. Noted.*

 

3. For the sake of ordering the Olive trousers I tried on some very light grey pants for size that I'm thinking are 'contrasty' enough and would also work very well and could be used for a bit more conservative a look than the olive. There are 3 Harry Rosens (at least) within walking distance of each other in down town Toronto. As I was walking between them yesterday I couldn't help but notice just how many dudes actually are wearing those bicycle toed shoes these days. Also, I noticed a guy in a grey SC with a white shirt over black pants and shoes and thought it worked really well. When I googled that combo there was actually a pic of (I believe) Spoo** from the WAYWRN thread that came up and looked great. Do you have an opinion of black pants with grey jackets? 

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

Yeah, forget the labels and get more shoe for your money.  Ferragamo make some decent shoes ("Tramezza"), OK/variable ("Lavoraziane Originale") and utter shit ("Studio").  But all of them are too expensive for what they are.  I've not seen Canali shoes so I can't comment, and I love the Canali jacket I'm wearing today. But I suspect that it's a similar picture - unless there's a stunning sale on, then there's really no point in paying for the label.

 

When I asked the SA at Harry's about Canali vs. Ferregamo this was almost exactly what she said. Her comment about Canali shoes was that, while she loves their clothes, the shoes use a softer leather that ages faster through use. They may be more comfortable to some out of the box but you're giving up the longevity of the AEs to a degree that's not worth the price difference. She told me she'd show me Canali and Ferregamo if I insisted but otherwise she 'downsold' me and I walked out with my first pair of Allen Edmonds pictured below. In terms of which fantastic shoes might have been worthwhile at a higher price, I dunno. Carmina's seem to be popular but I checked Leatherfoot's site and there didn't seem to be anything available in my size. Now that I have the AEs in hand I see them as being more than enough shoe for my uses and I've now been measured for their sizing. So again, I really like your call. Thank You Sir.

 

 

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post #23867 of 33081
Is this Tommy Bahama legit?

post #23868 of 33081
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Originally Posted by donjuan17 View Post

Is this Tommy Bahama legit?


Old I think?
post #23869 of 33081
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post



1. You're wearing fuchsia socks. If you're wearing fuchsia socks then I'm keeping the jeans. Hugh Jackman is older than I am and the guy looks fantastic in jeans. Sure, he's a tall, rich, ridiculously handsome and talented likeable man in phenomenal shape but I'm ...  uhhhh.... I'm tall too and you're wearing fuchsia socks. I will however look for alternatives to jeans when it comes to pairing with SCs. I really like your call with the olive pants. I had a chance to see some Samuelsohn olive trousers next to that jacket and I thought that it might be a great, if not totally formal, look. I ordered them and am looking forward to having those colourful pants the next time I take my Salsa Dancing Trinidadian girlfriend to one of her clubs.

His point is more:

  1. Those jeans in general are just not good. The fake distressing, the terrible cut... Just no.
  2. Jeans with sportcoats are very hard, and generally only work with the most casual of sportcoats--think fuzzy Harris tweed. Certainly not that grey-ish worsted solid.
post #23870 of 33081
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


His point is more:
 
  1. Those jeans in general are just not good. The fake distressing, the terrible cut... Just no.
  2. Jeans with sportcoats are very hard, and generally only work with the most casual of sportcoats--think fuzzy Harris tweed. Certainly not that grey-ish worsted solid.

 

I read his comment differently and took the impression that he was suggesting we all dispose of all of our jeans the day before we turn 36. As for the jeans, they're a pair of Levis that I've had for years. I'm not making an argument for them but I don't remember them as having been given fake distressing. That small point may not make them any more appropriate as 'odd trousers' but I think it does make them a little less cheesy at least.

post #23871 of 33081
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Hard to tell, but there may be a neck roll in the back causing it. I have had similar things in OTR.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. This may be it as there is indeed some neck roll and when I pull the jacket taut at the back, it diminishes the bulge/ripple. And in fact, after a day of hanging, the ripple is less noticeable. I'll take it to the tailor this weekend and see if he can provide further insight, and I'll try to get a better picture. This is the first time I've bought a jacket online and I must say it all seems a bit more trouble than it's worth...
post #23872 of 33081

White bucks or brown desert boots w/ crepe soles? What would you guys choose if you only could pick one of those 2. I'm planning on either or (not both since I don't have the funds) as my next shoe. Thanks.

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Help me decide on this jacket.  It is a heavy flannel and unstructured.  Do these lapels just scream 1998?

 

 

 

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My stone is cast to the dessert boots with crep soles. Am i wrong to assume you're going with Clarks?
post #23875 of 33081
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Originally Posted by sean anon View Post

Do these lapels just scream 1998?
Only in the sense that they're not absurdly narrow, which would scream 2013. smile.gif

The lapels are fine. Feel free to wear the jacket, if all else about it meets with your approval.
post #23876 of 33081
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Only in the sense that they're not absurdly narrow, which would scream 2013. smile.gif

The lapels are fine. Feel free to wear the jacket, if all else about it meets with your approval.


Feel free to comment on the the jacket itself as well.  It is a bit short

post #23877 of 33081

Another sportcoat question:

 

I just bought a new one on EBAY.  It is a Brooks Brothers Fitz and fits well.  The fabric looks like some tweed pants I have but a larger somewhat looser weave and much softer (it is 10% cashmere).  Any name for this type of weave? I imagine I would wear this like tweed or a herringbone?  It seems wrong with dressier worsted pants but I am not sure.

 

post #23878 of 33081
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Originally Posted by giaour View Post

Thanks for taking the time to reply. This may be it as there is indeed some neck roll and when I pull the jacket taut at the back, it diminishes the bulge/ripple. And in fact, after a day of hanging, the ripple is less noticeable. I'll take it to the tailor this weekend and see if he can provide further insight, and I'll try to get a better picture. This is the first time I've bought a jacket online and I must say it all seems a bit more trouble than it's worth...

Neck roll is a pretty common thing to see--not the end of the world if the rest of the jacket is fitting well. A good tailor can take it out for you.
post #23879 of 33081
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post
 

 

I read his comment differently and took the impression that he was suggesting we all dispose of all of our jeans the day before we turn 36. As for the jeans, they're a pair of Levis that I've had for years. I'm not making an argument for them but I don't remember them as having been given fake distressing. That small point may not make them any more appropriate as 'odd trousers' but I think it does make them a little less cheesy at least.

 

You're probably both right.  I'm wearing jeans today, but not denim and not with a jacket.  Whether or not you like my (raspberry, actually!) fil d'Ecosse over the calf socks, is immaterial.  I can wear them because I'm a bad muthafucka, at least I believe that's the correct expression.  

 

The thing about jeans is that there is pretty much always a better looking alternative. Whatever dispensation Hugh Jackman might get, it's rarely achievable for mortals like you and me.  Unless you're riding a slow motorcycle or a horse, they're not going to look as good as you think they do.  What feels familiar and easy and laid back, looks careless, cheap and scruffy.  So, really, just trust me on the jeans: wear coloured ones.  Or cords or moleskins or best of all some kind of chinos.  Perfectly casual, more comfortable, just as resilient and SO much more appealing.

 

By the way, your pic at the bottom of that picture really sums it all up. That is a rapid transformation from disheveled tryer into comfortably casual serious dude.  I like.

post #23880 of 33081

What do you all think about the collar on this Land's End Canvas shirt I bought? I think it looks absurdly skimpy next to my huge head so I took a photo to get some opinions. It's a button-down. My one and only Brooks Bros button-down, on the other hand, has a beautiful flowing collar. Sorry for the general frumpiness of the photo; I just threw the shirt on to take a picture of it. This is after a machine wash & dry.

 

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