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post #23581 of 30713

^Thanks for the answer. I guess you are right in essence, although i sometimes find it hard to decide on wether to buy something or not without having seen it in real life. 

 

In general though, will cow leather always be corrected grain, or is there full grain cow as well?

post #23582 of 30713

There is no agreed technical definition, as far as I know, of the difference between "cow" and "calf", and no relation at all with corrected grain.  Basically, if it's very shiny it's usually corrected grain.  If it has a kind of dull glow, then it usually isn't.  In this case it's hard to tell, but they're not that expensive, they are a strong, traditional, masculine shape, and the "waxy brown" looks like a very pleasing colour.  Would be great with jeans.  And I don't even like jeans very much....

post #23583 of 30713
What colour suits are acceptable for business wear? I'm still trying to decide what to wear for my wedding which will be held at a winery in the daytime in summer with reception in the evening at same location. I'm a first year lawyer in a suburban practice and currently own only 2 suits (navy and dark grey). I want to justify getting a nice suit for the wedding by using it with more sober accessories at work afterwards.
So basically are any colours like mid-grey, (non navy) blue or non pinstripey patterns appropriate for work?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Btw- if I had a choice I would be going full morning suit but I'm an awkward shape for otr rental and can't justify $1k+ on something that can't double as a work uniform
post #23584 of 30713
Navy, charcoal, mid grey.

Subtle patterns are ok, but focus on the solids first, they are way more versatile.

Navy suit is great for a wedding, btw. I'd get a nice navy suit and wear it for normal wear afterwards.
post #23585 of 30713
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Navy, charcoal, mid grey.

Subtle patterns are ok, but focus on the solids first, they are way more versatile.

Navy suit is great for a wedding, btw. I'd get a nice navy suit and wear it for normal wear afterwards.

Yeah I thought as much. It might sound stupid but I feel stupid for getting a really nice navy suit as my first for work. So if I wear navy for the wedding I either end up wearing the suit I already own (doesn't sound like much fun) or buy Another nice navy suit and end up rotating a limited wardrobe of 1 plain grey and 2 plain navy.
Is that a ridiculous concern to have?
post #23586 of 30713

I've grown obsessed lately with the idea of a light, unlined, unconstructured sport coat in a charcoal linen. Being rather new to the bespoke process, I was curious where I would look to source the linen - something especially light in weight but in a rich, deep colour, preferably a charcoal? 3R2, dual vents, flap pockets, buttons in a subtle, aged gunmetal or bronze color.

 

Would this be relatively expensive to have made compared to a normal sport coat? It seems that since there would be such little construction, it would be cheaper.

post #23587 of 30713
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Hey I'm getting married soon in a daytime event but I really wouldn't like to be wearing a suit, I know it's a crime to use a tux before 6 pm but I'm the groom isn't there a license like wearing a red bow tie without a cummerbund and vest? Or something else... Any suggestions I really want to our a classic black tux

Wear a stroller.
post #23588 of 30713
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Originally Posted by books and tweed View Post

I've grown obsessed lately with the idea of a light, unlined, unconstructured sport coat in a charcoal linen. Being rather new to the bespoke process, I was curious where I would look to source the linen - something especially light in weight but in a rich, deep colour, preferably a charcoal? 3R2, dual vents, flap pockets, buttons in a subtle, aged gunmetal or bronze color.

Would this be relatively expensive to have made compared to a normal sport coat? It seems that since there would be such little construction, it would be cheaper.

Charcoal sportscoats are not very versatile (have a look through jrd's sportscoat thread). Charcoal linen strikes me as double so. I would advise against it unless you already have an enormous wardrobe (like the owner of the one charcoal sc you'll see in jrd's thread). What did you imagine wearing it with, and for what occasions?

I'd also advise talking to your tailor and sourcing cloth through them for now. They'll get something they're happy working with.
post #23589 of 30713
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Can someone give me some advice on how much to shorten these pants by to end up with a quarter break? I don't like how they're puddling in the front. I'm thinking about 0.5 inches to 0.75 inches each

Ask the tailor, but I'd guess starting with a half inch would be sensible.

Jrd you could consider getting them hemmed at an angle (I forget the technical term for this) - i.e. the front crease is slightly shorter than the back. The length at the back in some of you pics looks ok, even though they're bunched at the front.
post #23590 of 30713
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Yeah I thought as much. It might sound stupid but I feel stupid for getting a really nice navy suit as my first for work. So if I wear navy for the wedding I either end up wearing the suit I already own (doesn't sound like much fun) or buy Another nice navy suit and end up rotating a limited wardrobe of 1 plain grey and 2 plain navy.
Is that a ridiculous concern to have?


Owning two navy suits doesn't sound like a problem to me. 80% of my suits are either navy or grey.
post #23591 of 30713

It's the suit that's never wrong.  Also, they don't have to be at all similar.  Lighter or heavier, double or single breasted, etc.

 

But deep down I feel you can work a bit harder on renting a morning suit :)

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It's the suit that's never wrong.  Also, they don't have to be at all similar.  Lighter or heavier, double or single breasted, etc.

 

But deep down I feel you can work a bit harder on renting a morning suit :)

 

Mimo, to be honest  I haven't looked  that hard. But I've seen a lot of comments on other threads here about how it can be hard to pull off putting the wedding party in morning suits without making them look like kids playing dressups, and renting out suits pretty much guarantees that effect. 

I should also point out I live in Australia (not Sydney/Melbourne) so there are very few places to rent from and afaik only one store in town that sells morning attire, but almost certainly wouldn't stock it.
 
You guys might be right about the Navy though.... something in much lighter weave with peak lapels should be distinctly different enough.
post #23593 of 30713

Yeah.  Maybe go for a double breasted in a lighter shade, with higher/wider peaks (e.g. if your existing navy is single breasted, notch lapel and dark/conservative).  Brown buttons would also make it brighter and fresher, although a little less formal, depending on what line of work you're in.

post #23594 of 30713

Congratulations Buchoelbrusco

Tuxedo is very elegant worn with a marcella-pique fronted dress shirt that often fastens with decorative studs

so you don't then wear a waistcoat ( or vest ) as well . A red bow tie would suit a wing collar marcella dress shirt.

As to if you could wear this before 6pm , I wouldn't dare comment as in UK the usual most elegant attire for day weddings is morning suit,

long tails & striped trousers.

What's important is that all significant men,groom, best man, grooms-men adopt the same attire.

One and all , but not the guests.

post #23595 of 30713
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Congratulations Buchoelbrusco
Tuxedo is very elegant worn with a marcella-pique fronted dress shirt that often fastens with decorative studs
so you don't then wear a waistcoat ( or vest ) as well . A red bow tie would suit a wing collar marcella dress shirt.
As to if you could wear this before 6pm , I wouldn't dare comment as in UK the usual most elegant attire for day weddings is morning suit,
long tails & striped trousers.
What's important is that all significant men,groom, best man, grooms-men adopt the same attire.
One and all , but not the guests.

Wow, that's a lot of wrong for one post.
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