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post #23191 of 30603

I've been really following a lot of forums regarding suits and style, but now I think I made a bad decision.  I am 23 years old with a banker position, so I need suits on a daily basis.  People say that Jos. Bank suits don't last and have a VERY boxy look.  I am 6'0, 190 lbs with an athletic build and broad shoulders.  In my opinion, my shoulders look extremely big with the new suits I just purchased, but my mom and gf said I am just paranoid.

 

I got the deal where it is 70% off and if you buy 3, you get 1 for free.  I thought that was a great deal and since I need a suit 5 days out of the week, and 4 suits seem really appealing.  But like with every suit I need it altered and can imagine each suit costing around 110 to 150 in alterations.  I can stick a lot more than a fist in my jacket.

 

I just want to know my options.  I just spent 900 dollars on 4 suits but I really don't like the boxy look and can still return them since i didn't do any alterations to them.  I just bought it today and am regretting my decision.  I have 1 suit in my closet from high school that I can still wear for now because I start the job tomorrow, but I would like opinions on the route to go.

post #23192 of 30603
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Originally Posted by kevinwang1219 View Post

I just want to know my options.  I just spent 900 dollars on 4 suits but I really don't like the boxy look and can still return them since i didn't do any alterations to them.  I just bought it today and am regretting my decision.  I have 1 suit in my closet from high school that I can still wear for now because I start the job tomorrow, but I would like opinions on the route to go.

If it were me, I would return my 4 JAB suits, take my $900 and get 2 Suitsupply suits or wait for a good Brooks Brothers sale and get a few 1818 suits. If you get a solid navy and a solid charcoal that will tide you over until you can afford more variety.
post #23193 of 30603

i was looking at suitsupply's website and they don't offer all black suits and i need black suits working at chase.

post #23194 of 30603
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i was looking at suitsupply's website and they don't offer all black suits and i need black suits working at chase.

Do they explicitly say black? Because in most environments, navy and charcoal are more appropriate.

If you're indeed only wearing black, you don't need 5 suits. You need 2. You don't have to clean wool nearly as often as you have to clean cotton. It has some nice properties, that I won't go into now, that make it unnecessary. Barring spills or really dramatic sweat incidents, you may never need to clean them. Some moderate rotation does help preserve them, hence having two.

I would go to JAB looking for an exchange first. They have tailored and slim cuts. Still pretty boxy compared to most, but one of them may suit you better. If you can get a fit, JAB actually does offer pretty decent quality for the money. The issue with them is that they size things to fit clueless fat people who think they're still the same size they wore in high school and don't want to admit to themselves that they've ballooned. Failing that, 2 suit supply or Brooks Brothers suits, especially if you're only going to be wearing one color.
post #23195 of 30603

unfortunately they strictly say black.  i got the slim cut suits with JAB and its still pretty boxy.  That is why i would like to explore my options. 

post #23196 of 30603
1. If you already regret your purchases, return them asap. No matter what anyone else says, if you dont feel comfortable in your clothes, you will never confidently wear them.
2. You dont need 4 black suits, two are enough.
3. The only black suits policy might be the dumbest thing ever, unless you are a chauffeur (no offense if so, then it would make sense).
post #23197 of 30603
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Originally Posted by kevinwang1219 View Post

unfortunately they strictly say black.  i got the slim cut suits with JAB and its still pretty boxy.  That is why i would like to explore my options. 

Bringing suits to a tailor is not optional. It's a must. Get them tailored. The tailor will do the finishing touches such as bringing the jacket in at the waist, which will cure the boxy look. Both the sleeves and trousers will also need to be slimmed and shortened.

Black in the day time is just wrong. Period. Seriously, unless you're at a funeral. Get very dark charcoal grey and navy blue. I can't believe your company forbids its employees from wearing navy blue suits.
post #23198 of 30603
Guess it's true...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xGeFmYuifxsJ:betweenmypeers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/chase_dressguidelines.doc+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

"Professional Apparel – Branch Managers, Personal Bankers, Business Bankers, Loan Officers

c. Men and Women must wear a black dress jacket, blazer, or suit. Chase Brand approved sweaters (cardigan and V-neck sweaters) may be worn in place of a jacket."
post #23199 of 30603
Don't worry, in lieu of a suit, he can wear a sweater facepalm.gif

That dress code is just insane.
post #23200 of 30603
What length tie would someone who is around 6'4" 270-300 lbs need? (It's a gift, so I don't want to ask for neck size.)
post #23201 of 30603
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What length tie would someone who is around 6'4" 270-300 lbs need? (It's a gift, so I don't want to ask for neck size.)
Probably an extra-long tie. One which is at least 63", as opposed to a regular length tie which is more like 58". (These lengths can vary a little from manufacturer to manufacturer.) Possibly even an extra-extra-long tie, of more than 67", but a mere extra-long, which is most often around 63", would probably suffice.

And lest anyone argue the point, citing someone they know who is 6'5" tall, and who weighs 310 lbs., but who wears a regular length tie because his height and weight is mostly in his arms and legs... well, exceptions (and freakish builds) exist. But generally, at 6'4" and close to 300 lbs., a regular length tie will be shorter than desired. And that's just the reality of it.

It can be harder to find a nice extra-long tie, than to find a nice regular length tie, but it's really not all that difficult. My tie rack is full of nice extra-long ties, proving that it can definitely be done. Finding extra-extra-longs is considerably more difficult, particularly if one doesn't really care to shop the Big & Tall men's stores. Although I'm pretty sure Hober (among others) will make your tie just as long as you like.

I'm typically not a real fan of giving clothing as gifts - and neckties count. Especially if it's not to someone you know really, really well (like, a parent/child, a spouse, or a sibling). Since you don't know the fellow's neck size, I'm guessing he's not your parent or child, your spouse, or your sibling, since in any of these cases finding out his neck size would be pretty easy. And I'm even less of a fan of giving unusually large clothing as a gift. It's just got too much potential to go badly. So please reconsider your proposed gift. (Although it could be worse, I suppose. The recipient could work at Chase.)
post #23202 of 30603
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

I'm typically not a real fan of giving clothing as gifts - and neckties count. Especially if it's not to someone you know really, really well (like, a parent/child, a spouse, or a sibling). Since you don't know the fellow's neck size, I'm guessing he's not your parent or child, your spouse, or your sibling, since in any of these cases finding out his neck size would be pretty easy. And I'm even less of a fan of giving unusually large clothing as a gift. It's just got too much potential to go badly. So please reconsider your proposed gift. (Although it could be worse, I suppose. The recipient could work at Chase.)

Thanks for the advice. It's for a wedding/groomsman. I'd rather get him something that looks good on him instead of getting the same ties for everyone.
post #23203 of 30603
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

It's for a wedding/groomsman.
If he's your groomsman, you presumably have a decent relationship with him. So simply say to him, "I'm getting all of my groomsmen neckties. You wear an extra-long tie?" And then you'll know what length tie he wears.

Despite what I said about giving clothing as gifts, it's okay for a groom to give his groomsmen neckties. Same way that I'd discourage giving your guy friends jewelry, but giving your groomsmen matching cuff links would be okay. Groomsmen gifts fall into a special category that way.

Oh, whenever I read here on SF that someone's getting married, I have to ask - you're not having your groomsmen all dress in matching outfits, are you? Please, for the love of Dog, tell me you're not making that mistake, no matter what the bride and/or wedding planner want. You have one groomsman who is the size of Herman Munster. You probably have another who's on the short and slight side. It's unlikely that the suit and/or tuxedo which looks best on one, will also look best on the other. Moreover, in looking at old wedding photos, I've never, ever thought to myself, "I wish all of grandpa's groomsmen had been wearing identical suits." So long as the groomsmen are dressed in the appropriate tone, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having them all match, and quite a bit of reason to avoid this.
post #23204 of 30603
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

Oh, whenever I read here on SF that someone's getting married, I have to ask - you're not having your groomsmen all dress in matching outfits, are you? Please, for the love of Dog, tell me you're not making that mistake, no matter what the bride and/or wedding planner want. You have one groomsman who is the size of Herman Munster. You probably have another who's on the short and slight side. It's unlikely that the suit and/or tuxedo which looks best on one, will also look best on the other. Moreover, in looking at old wedding photos, I've never, ever thought to myself, "I wish all of grandpa's groomsmen had been wearing identical suits." So long as the groomsmen are dressed in the appropriate tone, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having them all match, and quite a bit of reason to avoid this.

No, don't worry. I've just asked them to wear solid charcoal suits (which, surprisingly, only 1/3 owned, but other other 2 were open to buying), white shirts, and black shoes (I'd prefer brown but black is safer). And I of course will provide ties, non-matching, but color coordinated. I'm trying to fight the good fight against matching, but some compromises are necessary. The wedding-industrial complex is strong.

(The white shirt thing is actually a open issue because her dress is off-white and she asked if we could get off-white dress shirts.)

I was also pissed off the one wedding I've been in that I couldn't wear my own tuxedo because it was single button, peak lapel instead of 2 button, notch lapel, so I had to shell out $200 for a Men's Wearhouse rental that didn't fit.
post #23205 of 30603
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

I was also pissed off the one wedding I've been in that I couldn't wear my own tuxedo because it was single button, peak lapel instead of 2 button, notch lapel, so I had to shell out $200 for a Men's Wearhouse rental that didn't fit.

Friggin' ridiculous.
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