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Either of these appropriate for a wedding?

 

post #22772 of 33197
Depends on the wedding, but first blush is no. Both are very informal.
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Depends on the wedding, but first blush is no. Both are very informal.

 

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Originally Posted by bklyndoc12 View Post

Either of these appropriate for a wedding?
There are all kinds of weddings, ranging from those where shorts and a t-shirt would leave you over-dressed, to those where black tie would leave you under-dressed. And you've opted to share with us absolutely no information about the wedding in question.

But if I were to receive an invitation to an unknown couple's wedding, taking place at an undisclosed time and place, with the preferred dress left a mystery, and I had to choose between the two pictures you provided, I'd pick picture #1. Because all else being equal, the blue shirt in the first picture strikes me as being appropriate in situations extending across a wider range of levels of formality than does the shirt in picture #2. And because what looks to be a navy jacket (difficult to tell navy from black on this monitor, but I think it's navy) tends to be appropriate in situations extending across a wider range of levels of formality than does the jacket in picture #2.

Okay, now that I've taken the time to provide you with a reasonably thoughtful response to your question, how about you return the favor by telling us whether you think either of the two choices would be appropriate to wear to a wedding? And why?
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I am a noob in their 20's asking a dumb question.  This is my first bespoke charcoal suit.  This is the 3rd wedding I've been to in my entire life.  After recently discovering what it means to have a shirt that fits me, I only have a small selection that actually do.  So basically I am relatively ignorant to style and to wedding formality. I agree that the blue shirt looks more formal, so that is probably the way I am going to go.  

 

What would make the 1st choice more formal?  A solid shirt? More conservative tie?

post #22776 of 33197
The tie. Ideally, to a wedding you'd wear a navy/charcoal suit, solid white shirt, and a wedding tie (e.g. shepherd check) with black shoes. If you dont have a solid white (or even solid light blue) shirt, at the least switch out the tie. The stripes or checks on both shirts however make them less formal.

Basically, the less patterns or ornamentation an item has, the more formal. Very broad guideline, of course.
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Originally Posted by bklyndoc12 View Post

I am a noob in their 20's asking a dumb question.  This is my first bespoke charcoal suit.  This is the 3rd wedding I've been to in my entire life.  After recently discovering what it means to have a shirt that fits me, I only have a small selection that actually do.  So basically I am relatively ignorant to style and to wedding formality. I agree that the blue shirt looks more formal, so that is probably the way I am going to go.  

What would make the 1st choice more formal?  A solid shirt? More conservative tie?

You have a bespoke suit but not a plain white or light blue shirt?
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Originally Posted by bklyndoc12 View Post

I am a noob in their 20's asking a dumb question.
It wasn't a dumb question; you just didn't include along with it sufficient background information to permit a meaningful response.

It was like posting to a gourmet dining forum, and asking which restaurant to visit for dinner that night, without mentioning budget, or food preferences, or where you're located.

If you've been invited to a wedding, there's an excellent chance that there's something in the invitation regarding how you should dress. Maybe it says something like "Black Tie Optional," or "Black Tie Preferred," or "Cocktail Attire," or something like that. Or perhaps the place and time specified in the invitation give a clue as to how you should dress - typically, a daytime wedding on the beach will call for less formal dress than will a nighttime wedding at a castle.

Of course, if you're being invited to a wedding, it's likely you have a friend or family member who is a member of the wedding party. Simply picking up the phone, and explaining to this person that you've been invited to the wedding and you were wondering what the dress code is, would be a straight forward way of figuring out what to wear.
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What would make the 1st choice more formal?  A solid shirt? More conservative tie?
A solid white shirt would formal it up a bit, sure. So would a more conservative tie. But at this point you still don't know whether you want to go more formal. Maybe you ought to be going less formal. Maybe you should be planning on acquiring a tuxedo.

Until you discover how you're supposed to dress for this wedding, nobody can advise you on what (if anything) to change about your shirt and tie.

Seriously, the Mother of the Bride (or the Maid of Honor, or the bride, herself) will almost never get angry with an invited guest giving her a call several weeks before the wedding, and asking "What's the dress code for the wedding? I want to dress appropriately." It's not something you should feel embarrassed about asking, assuming the invitation failed to make it clear.

If you ask, and you simply can't get a straight answer out of the person, then wear your charcoal suit, a white shirt, and a wedding tie such as aravenel described. On the theory that when it doubt when it comes to weddings, it's better to err on the more traditional, conservative, conventional side, than to err on the more informal and unusual side.

And if you own a bespoke charcoal suit, you ought to own a white dress shirt (or ten). In much the same way that someone who owns a Patek Philippe wristwatch might typically be assumed to know how to tell time. smile.gif
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What do people think of buying overcoats on ebay? I need my first db overcoat and I'm thinking of http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HART-SCHAFFNER-MARX-GOLD-TRUMPETER-DB-Over-TOP-Coat-CASHMERE-Trench-Jacket-38-L-/360694620142?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item53fb131fee
My suit shoulder to shoulder is 17".

Thanks!
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^ I love eBay and get most everything there. Saves me so much time. teacha.gif
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I bought these fabrics for a suit (top) and a sport coat (bottom) along with some lighter and darker horn buttons. Originally I was thinking darker buttons for the top and lighter for the bottom. Any thoughts on this choice?





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Originally Posted by Jwatkins View Post

What do people think of buying overcoats on ebay?
No reason not to, assuming you find an overcoat you like, at a great price. Naturally, you'll want to make sure you know your measurements, and that the overcoat's measurements are a good match.

In the case of the auction you reference, the seller's got literally tens of thousands of feedback, 99.9% of it positive, and as buyer you'd have a 14 day return privilege. I don't see too much risk.

Mind you, with 4 weeks left before the auction closes, there's no telling just how high the winning bid will have to be. Nor have I any idea what sort of import duties, if any, might have to be paid.
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Originally Posted by Jwatkins View Post

What do people think of buying overcoats on ebay? I need my first db overcoat and I'm thinking of http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HART-SCHAFFNER-MARX-GOLD-TRUMPETER-DB-Over-TOP-Coat-CASHMERE-Trench-Jacket-38-L-/360694620142?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item53fb131fee
My suit shoulder to shoulder is 17".

Thanks!

 

The auction has since ended, so perhaps you purchased the coat yourself.  I would be hesitant to purchase this coat because you reference your suit shoulder measurement is 17".  This coat is 18.5" shoulder.  Granted, you need slightly larger allowances for measurements with a coat because you must remember you are wearing a suit underneath the overcoat, but a 1.5" is excessive.  Narrow down your exact measurements for an overcoat and scavenge eBay for just the right one.  Be sure to exercise patience.

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Originally Posted by Jwatkins View Post

What do people think of buying overcoats on ebay? I need my first db overcoat and I'm thinking of http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HART-SCHAFFNER-MARX-GOLD-TRUMPETER-DB-Over-TOP-Coat-CASHMERE-Trench-Jacket-38-L-/360694620142?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item53fb131fee
My suit shoulder to shoulder is 17".

Thanks!

I've bought several overcoats from eBay, including my absolute favorite, an old PRL double breasted guards coat that weighs like 15 lbs and is super warm, and looks like it has never been worn. Didn't require a single alteration to fit me spot on. And I paid $60 for the thing.

As will all things eBay, you just need to 1) know what you are looking at--cannot always rely on descriptions, 2) know your size measurements very well, and 3) even if everything looks perfect, know that sometimes things won't work out. For example, I bought a coat once that looked great, fit well, etc, but was just a little long in the tooth. The condition was not such that I felt like I could return it for incorrect description--there were no holes or threadbare spots--it had just clearly been worn hard and didn't have much life left in it. Accept that this might happen and move on.

Also, know that it might take some time to find what you are looking for. I stalked overcoats for a good six months before finding that PRL guards coat I love so much.
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Try as I can, I cannot seem to be able to spot the difference between corrected and full grain leather from online photos.  So, if an expert could just briefly glance at the below (AE) shoes and tell me if they're CG or not, or if there's any other problems with them, that would be great.

 

Woodstock: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF44414_1_40000000001_-1

Boca Raton: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF6903_1_40000000001_-1

New Orleans: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF4112_1_40000000001_-1

Cahill: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF1139_1_40000000001_-1

Neumora: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF4233_1_40000000001_-1

Larchmont: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF1523_1_40000000001_-1

Granville: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF5544_1_40000000001_-1

 

Thanks a lot.

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