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Where can I find some nice white trousers? I like a fit like Brooks Brothers Milano, but their white is translucent. Actually, most white pants are translucent. I need something opaque that will hold a crease.

post #22622 of 30369
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Originally Posted by Logen View Post

What to wear for my sister’s wedding?
The wedding is at august and it’s going to be an outside wedding (HOT!!)
Where I live nobody wears suits to weddings so I am looking for something not formal.
I was thinking chino pants with a button up shirt and a sports coat but I am a little stuck with the colors and the patterns (and shoes).
Can anyone help me with the mixing and matching of this?
I am about 5.7 ft. tall very slim, 24 year old male.

Since you're not sure you might want to stick with the classics. So maybe a stone or khaki chino, a minimally lined navy blazer (possibly cotton or linen - check SuitSupply), and a white shirt. Or maybe a shirt with a pattern, like a light blue gingham or a tan stripe. I'd wear brown suede loafers but you could also do something like a tan captoe.
post #22623 of 30369
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The fabric is fine. Now paying $2,000+ for off the rack, on the other hand...

sigh...where I find such bargains;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

post #22624 of 30369
Good men's style books? "Dressing the Man"?

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post #22625 of 30369
I got a quick question. I got a pair of redwing iron rangers. I went to the store so the fit is spot on. However. I oiled them the first night to try and loosen them up a bit and they got darker. They are 8111 amber harness and I used redwing boot oil. I use it on my other boots and they usually lighten up with wear. Does anybody have experience with these?
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I'm thinking of adding to my suit collection. Right now I have 3 Dolce and Gabbana Martini suits (charcoal, navy, grey) and an E. Zegna (black). At 6'1" and 160lb the D&G suits fit me the best, I get complimented on them all the time, and as a result I wear them all the time. The 38R jacket fits perfect OTR and the shape is spot on and generally I get these on sale at Harry Rosen for around $1200.

 

My questions is: Can I get a Samuelsohn suit (maybe the truck show MTM?) to fit the same as the D&G suits or should I stick with what works? Also what other colours should I be looking at next?

post #22627 of 30369

Do you guys size up on sweaters when they are layered over a dress shirt? 

 

I'm typically a XS for dress shirts, but I'm thinking sweaters in XS will be a little too tight when layered.  

post #22628 of 30369
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Originally Posted by docka View Post

Do you guys size up on sweaters when they are layered over a dress shirt? 

I'm typically a XS for dress shirts, but I'm thinking sweaters in XS will be a little too tight when layered.  

In a word, no.

They stretch.
post #22629 of 30369
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Originally Posted by docka View Post

I'm typically a XS for dress shirts
I would mention, in passing, that proper dress shirts are not sized in letters (such as S/M/L), but are sized with actual numbers, indicating collar size and sleeve length (for example, 16/34).

If you typically wear an XS dress shirt, I suspect what you're actually wearing is not a dress shirt at all, but rather a sport shirt.
post #22630 of 30369
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Indeed.  Oyster, really, read a few threads about shoes on here.  What you are considering buying is utter, meritless, irredeemable dogshit, for the following reasons:

 

1. They do have square toes.  Square toes are bad, unless they are a "chiseled toe" or "soft square" which is more like a point that's been cut off.  These are just square, and I repeat, square is indeed very bad.

 

2.  They are cheap and nasty.  The leather is plastic-coated shaved off dick skin and will never look nice whatever you do to it.  Within a few short wears it will be covered in tiny wrinkles that cannot be removed, and eventually fall to pieces.

 

3.  They have plastic soles.  There are some synthetic soles that you will find to be "SF-approved", such as Dainite and Vibram.  They are approved as practical wet weather alternatives to leather that will last a long time and a....

 

 

Dear mimo,

 

First of all, thank you for a very detailed answer.  I'd like to begin by saying that I can buy very expensive stuff, but I won't, and here's my reason.  I will be wearing these shoes to school (well, private school where I have to wear polos in the spring and suits in the winter - so don't laugh at me for buying dress shoes for school!).  My school campus (especially the extensive gravel bits) is like a shoe destroying machine.  I bought a pair of dress shoes in September 2012 for school and now they barely qualify as shoes.  The front has all but turned green from scuff marks, and I also step on my heel very steeply (I don't know a better way to describe it) - but I have already chiseled away so much of my right heel that the wood is showing.  The last thing I'd like to do is torture my first pair of Allen Edmonds to death like this.  So, I have decided not to invest in nice shoes until later - when I really need them (half the people in my school get away with wearing boat shoes so $300 dress shoes really aren't imminently necessary - I hope you'll understand my logic).  

 

I was also wondering how Samuel Windsor makes shoes that cheap!  I mean, I read that finding goodyear welted shoes even under $200 is a miracle - here they are for $50!  I would say that they have been doing some serious photoshopping, but you say they are great for the money.  How would they compare to other cheap brands like Clarks?

 

Well, I was also wondering about these very attractive tassel loafers: http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?c=1208&pid=66980&VID=67016&SEARCH=breland#tabRatings

 

They are not square toe, the leather appears to be slightly less... dickskin, if I may, and they have leather soles.  Am I taking a step in the right direction now?  And, same with the Meltons (http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?c=1215&pid=38301&VID=38301#)?

 

P.S.  On an unrelated note, I found it peculiar that you put John Lobb over Edward Green.  I used to think it was the general consensus that Edward Green is sort of the "one and only."  

post #22631 of 30369
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


I would mention, in passing, that proper dress shirts are not sized in letters (such as S/M/L), but are sized with actual numbers, indicating collar size and sleeve length (for example, 16/34).

If you typically wear an XS dress shirt, I suspect what you're actually wearing is not a dress shirt at all, but rather a sport shirt.

My apologies. I'm XS in sport shirts and my measurements in dress shirts are very similar to XS in sport shirts. I only used XS for comparison purposes to the sweater. 

post #22632 of 30369
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Originally Posted by longwalker View Post

I wanna buy some basic tees, yeah, really basic pieces, V-neck, crew neck, almost every man wears everyday.  those can be worn as a layer or simply worn out in hot summer days. I heard that the basic tees from Japanese labels use really nice cotton ( Buzz Rickson, etc)  but not readily available and price is a bit high for me.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
American Apparel for American made sweat shop free shirts at a cheap price.
post #22633 of 30369
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Originally Posted by Oysters View Post

 

 

Dear mimo,

 

First of all, thank you for a very detailed answer. 

Words (Click to show)

 

 I'd like to begin by saying that I can buy very expensive stuff, but I won't, and here's my reason.  I will be wearing these shoes to school (well, private school where I have to wear polos in the spring and suits in the winter - so don't laugh at me for buying dress shoes for school!).  My school campus (especially the extensive gravel bits) is like a shoe destroying machine.  I bought a pair of dress shoes in September 2012 for school and now they barely qualify as shoes.  The front has all but turned green from scuff marks, and I also step on my heel very steeply (I don't know a better way to describe it) - but I have already chiseled away so much of my right heel that the wood is showing.  The last thing I'd like to do is torture my first pair of Allen Edmonds to death like this.  So, I have decided not to invest in nice shoes until later - when I really need them (half the people in my school get away with wearing boat shoes so $300 dress shoes really aren't imminently necessary - I hope you'll understand my logic).  

 

I was also wondering how Samuel Windsor makes shoes that cheap!  I mean, I read that finding goodyear welted shoes even under $200 is a miracle - here they are for $50!  I would say that they have been doing some serious photoshopping, but you say they are great for the money.  How would they compare to other cheap brands like Clarks?

 

Well, I was also wondering about these very attractive tassel loafers: http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?c=1208&pid=66980&VID=67016&SEARCH=breland#tabRatings

 

They are not square toe, the leather appears to be slightly less... dickskin, if I may, and they have leather soles.  Am I taking a step in the right direction now?  And, same with the Meltons (http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/product.aspx?c=1215&pid=38301&VID=38301#)?

 

P.S.  On an unrelated note, I found it peculiar that you put John Lobb over Edward Green.  I used to think it was the general consensus that Edward Green is sort of the "one and only."  

 

 

 

You're welcome, my friend.

 

Answers:

 

1.  Dress shoes are always appropriate; I wouldn't dream of ridiculing a man for dressing well.  As for the wear problem, you're being silly.  If you're heavy on your heels, you might like to consider a Dainite sole (or similar) that is very hard wearing.  Also, steel taps can be put on the edge of the heel and the end of the toe if you want to stay with leather, and will prevent these problems completely.  As for scuffs on your shoes: be more careful, and as we all live in the real world, polish them!  Shoes are designed to be robust and designed to be used, so don't be afraid of them.  With careful use of brushes and polishes, there is barely anything you can do to your shoes that cannot be covered up or transformed from damage into "character", at worst.  So don't just wear crappy ones and think of them as disposable.  Your logic is flawed - that one pair of $250 (sale, on now) Allen Edmonds can be reinforced and last you the whole time with proper care.  Or how about a Dainite-soled Church's suede chukka for your summer chinos, at $150 as a second?  (An example of something I saw on Herring's site).  Your options are wide, don't compromise too much if you don't have to.

 

2.  Samuel Windsor and their like can make Goodyear welted shoes that cheap because Chinese factory workers don't earn shit and work really long hours with no pee breaks.  Just as Loake can make a brogue on the 26 last in India and sell it for $150, whereas the near-identical shoe made in England costs $300.  Clark's have a different model.  They have a chain of high street stores, and I grew up wearing their shoes as "good quality".  The best thing about them was they were the only place on the high street that measure children's feet properly.  But as a man, I wouldn't ever shop there, because those overheads of physical shops mean they sell a glued together turd for your $50.

 

3.  Tassel loafers, good idea for your summer casuals (and so much nicer than boat shoes).  But these are indescribably horrible.  Leather that looks like it's been lining the back seat of a Bangkok taxi for the last ten years, and glued together.  And is that kiltie really a plus?  Personal thing, I suppose.  But it costs $140!  Whatever your size is, I'm sure we could find a dozen things that are both better looking and more durable within $20 of that price, in about ten minutes.  Really, you must be kidding.

 

4.  These captoes do look like they might be Goodyear welted.  But I can't be sure.  Some shoes are made with a stitch around the "welt" and a stitch around the sole as a fashion effect (and I've been caught out myself buying a pair, only last year), hiding the fact that both sets of stitching are different sizes, entirely decorative, and the sole is glued on by a monkey.  But again, even if these are welted, that's only fifty bucks shy of some of the Allen Edmonds shoes in their sale, or any number of the other options mentioned previously.  And check out that nasty plastic-looking leather.  For $175 plus shipping?  Fuck right off, Johnston, and tell Murphy to accompany.

 

Be brave.  Try something else.

post #22634 of 30369

Now, my turn to ask a question: who makes the shoes for "Suit Supply"?  I saw someone wearing some double monks earlier that looked quite decent, and was surprised when he told me where they came from.  I just looked up the site and they look awful in the pics.

 

Any ideas where they come from?

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