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post #22306 of 30556

I wouldn't wear that outfit.  Unless I were auditioning for the non-speaking role "Chechen pimp" in a low-budget TV series.

 

This is "Classic Menswear".  Try the other side of the forum, but they won't like it either.  Your username is not the biggest concern.

 

Welcome, though!

post #22307 of 30556
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I'm concerned you would ask for an opinion on your collar size when it's undone.  Apart from that, you look fine.  But eat something.

The collar fits nicely. I was just bothered by the excess scrunching. I just didn't want to size up on the collar since that entails having a larger chest measurement. 

post #22308 of 30556
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Originally Posted by docka View Post

are you concerned with too much scrunching near the shoulders and arms? 

Shirts aren't supposed to look like they were shrink wrapped onto you. That looks like a very good fit for OTR. Maybe ideally you'd get smaller shoulders, but that's not bad.

Can't comment on the neck size as Mimo said.
post #22309 of 30556
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I wouldn't wear that outfit.  Unless I were auditioning for the non-speaking role "Chechen pimp" in a low-budget TV series.

This is "Classic Menswear".  Try the other side of the forum, but they won't like it either.  Your username is not the biggest concern.

Welcome, though!

Is it the jacket or the unbottoned shirt? Or Both?
post #22310 of 30556

I'm glad you're not a sensitive type, KC!

 

The thing is, this part of the forum is "Classic Menswear", so we tend to go for a more formal, traditional, composed look.  There are a couple of "crossover" threads, but really, you might be better looking at the "Streetwear and Denim" side if that's your style.  However, as I personally consider that side of the forum to be desperately inferior and wish only the best for you, I will say this:

 

The shirt you're wearing is basically a dress shirt.  It's not great in this casual context.  Also, don't undo all those buttons.  If you want a proper shirt for casual purposes, maybe choose something a little heavier, perhaps with a button down collar.  In my personal opinion, that's the sharpest collar to have if you're not going to wear a tie, as it keeps its shape when unfastened.

 

The jacket is...ordinary.  I don't especially like it, but neither is it particularly offensive.  And (this is a personal thing, I appreciate that the current fashion is in your favour), I don't like tight, low-rise chino trousers.  But as you're young, slim and have them, I'm sure you can work it out.

 

So, get a better casual shirt.  Only undo one button.  Wear a belt - perhaps some sort of woven leather, but something of quality.  And don't put your hand in your pocket - in those flat, low rise trousers, there's no room and it pulls your fly open.  Which is not nice, especially as you appear to be standing in a public toilet.  And shoes?  Try a suede half-brogued oxford for a more grown up kind of casual.  Or maybe a chukka boot, even a monk.  If you give a budget and any other personal preferences, we can give you some specific ideas.

 

Anyway, good luck, keep reading, and stay on this side of the forum.  It will make a (better) gentleman of you. ;)

 

P.S.  What on earth is that watch?  It's very...shiny.  And not necessarily in a good way.  Consider.

post #22311 of 30556
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


Shirts aren't supposed to look like they were shrink wrapped onto you. That looks like a very good fit for OTR. Maybe ideally you'd get smaller shoulders, but that's not bad.

Can't comment on the neck size as Mimo said.

Would you consider this a better fit? 15/32, but a different brand.  

 

post #22312 of 30556
I think it looks short. Not ideal for tucking.
post #22313 of 30556
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Ties are unpredictable, which is why you're told to test on an inconspicuous spot first, and why a professional job (tiecrafters gets good recs around here) is really the only even close to sure thing. It's not a sign of a bad tie, but you may have ruined it depending on how noticeable the damage is.

Thanks for the info. I will be more cautious with my stained ties in the future. 

post #22314 of 30556

For a couple years I've been looking for a pair of black shoes to replace my hideous and beat all to hell Mercanti Fiorentini lace ups the ex bought when she worked for DSW. I work in IT and for the last three years have worked exclusively from home. The only time I need to wear a suit is for funerals, weddings, and job interviews.

 

So, I *need* a pair of black shoes. At one level, this is something that takes no thought, buy an AE PA or Strand in black, except that I hate how they both look. I have several pairs of AE shoes [Norwich, Kenilworth, and Berkshire] all in some shade of brown. I'm considering the Flatiron, however, for the same price, I could buy the Kent Wang plain toe balmoral and it looks about ten thousand percent nicer.
 

The real problem is that I'm looking for a do it all black shoe. I see that the AE Clifton is on sale at Nordstrom right now for $200 and that's probably what I should do, but I just don't love the cap toe shoe.

 

Anyway, I guess the question is what other quality shoe manufacturers should I be considering?

post #22315 of 30556
Thanks Mimo and CPT for the pocket square advice!

What are peoples thoughts on loafers such as these?

http://www.skoaktiebolaget.se/news/carmina-suede-string-loafers

Does anyone know of any good quality similar loafers? I think that last is probably a little narrow for my feet.

Thanks!
post #22316 of 30556
hello this is my first post. I'm a noob in the market for a blue suit and I picked up a Saks Main labeled one from Off 5th for 240 down from 1000. the label says "212" and it's a cotton wool blend, fused construction, made in Jordan. Is this an abomination that should be burned at the stake or a reasonable price for a fun suit?

here's a picture of the tag:

Thanks for the help!
post #22317 of 30556
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Originally Posted by mountainstyle View Post

The only time I need to wear a suit is for funerals, weddings, and job interviews.

 

So, I *need* a pair of black shoes. At one level, this is something that takes no thought, buy an AE PA or Strand in black, except that I hate how they both look. I have several pairs of AE shoes [Norwich, Kenilworth, and Berkshire] all in some shade of brown. I'm considering the Flatiron, however, for the same price, I could buy the Kent Wang plain toe balmoral and it looks about ten thousand percent nicer.
 

The real problem is that I'm looking for a do it all black shoe. I see that the AE Clifton is on sale at Nordstrom right now for $200 and that's probably what I should do, but I just don't love the cap toe shoe.

 

Anyway, I guess the question is what other quality shoe manufacturers should I be considering?

 

I like the Cliftons, but based on your described needs, they aren't what you are looking for. The Clifton simply isn't formal enough for weddings or job interviews. You need a balmoral.

If you're trying to stay in the <$300 range and don't like AE's, consider Florsheim or Johnston and Murphy? With these brands you need to be a little more careful with what you pick up as their quality varies. Another thread reminded me of To Boot NY which is another option. Better still, check out Andrew Lock's line of shoes. He's got some great looking shoes and has had a lot of positive reviews.

 

Good Luck

post #22318 of 30556

I don't like the Clifton in black.  Black is formal, but the shoe isn't, as it's a half brogue derby.  Even the Flatiron is not really suitable - again, it's a nice semi-casual shoe in tan or whatever, but in black, it's falling between two stools - neither smart nor casual.

 

Your "weddings, interviews and funerals shoe" for $200 should probably still be a captoe, but a plain one, and an oxford (closed lacing).  In which case, here are some easy options:  

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/loake/products/1973.php

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/4656.php

 

If you do prefer a brogue, I think a black oxford is acceptable for all those occasions, in which case maybe

 

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/loake/products/11.php

 

I have the suede version of these last ones, and the shape is very elegant.  All of these are well within your budget including shipping, and some include free stuff too!

 

If you go up to the equivalent of full price Allen Edmonds, then the world is your oyster.  This balmoral oxford from Barker is good, but nearer $300.http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/5709.php

 

Check out the Pediwear site anyway, as they ship to the US for a fixed fee, and they use EMS (USPS) so you don't get hit for customs clearance fees.  They're nice guys to deal with and helpful if you have sizing questions.

 

(N.B. Dear Pediwear, I mention you about ten times a month on here, you should totally give me free shoes!)

 

 

Alternatively, if you have a little patience, you could try www.meermin.es.  Read all about them on this forum.  There are plenty within budget, but they can be a little slow to deliver.  These both hit your $200 mark, more or less, and the second one gives you that plain toe you were thinking of: it's a wholecut, which normally is a style confined to more expensive makes as it's hard to make well.  But being a plain toe oxford, it's particularly good if you want to use it for a dinner suit ("tuxedo"), too.

 

http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=2033

http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=1920

post #22319 of 30556
This is a nice black shoe also: http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/product-info.php?&colset=1&styleid=91&shoeid=6493&brandid=6&catid=42&oldcolid=3374&stype=0&colourid=418 I have the Kent Wang plain-toe balmoral and love it, though I don't consider it as appropriate for interviews and business in general as a cap-toe. I think it is perfect for weddings and other evening social events.
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I really like dealing with Herring and have several pairs from them.  The reason I didn't mention them this time is that they normally ship by DHL and Fedex, who I'm told really screw their American customers on clearance charges.  For everyone else, they're my top pick!

 

I do wonder, though, if one emailed Herring and asked them to ship by EMS/Post Office/USPS instead, they could do it?  They're extremely helpful in every other way, and it would probably be cheaper for them anyway (their shipping charges are simple and fixed).

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