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post #21991 of 33196
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Originally Posted by APdress View Post

Hi
First post.

I have some questions about wearing a dress for my graduation ceremony in a months time.

1 - Does wearing a checked or stripped shirt with black suit  fit the occassion or is it better just wearing a plain shirt ?
2- What kind of tie would suit a checked shirt.

Here is the link the shirt i am looking at .
http://www.landsend.com/pp/mens-traditional-fit-pattern-no-iron-supima-pinpoint-buttondown-dress-shirt~242779_59.html?sku_0=::S97

Color Marine Windowpane




Thanks for any reply
This shirt should not be worn with a suit. The pattern and collar style are too casual. You are better off with something plain. Is a black suit your only option?
post #21992 of 33196
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post


This shirt should not be worn

 

Better.

post #21993 of 33196
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Originally Posted by Dashaansafin View Post

I need a couple new dress shirts/pants. Live in Chicago and want to go MTM (Im a pretty slim guy so I feel MTM would be best? My other shirts were made in HK). Which MTM service would you recommend? Modern Tailor, Indochino, etc?

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I've heard good thing about luxire.
post #21994 of 33196
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Originally Posted by APdress View Post


I have some questions about wearing a dress for my graduation ceremony in a months time.
Okay. Are you going to post a picture of yourself in the dress?
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1 - Does wearing a checked or stripped shirt with black suit  fit the occassion or is it better just wearing a plain shirt ?
Since I don't think a black suit fits the occasion, the question of which shirt to pair with the black suit strikes me as largely irrelevant. Like asking whether a purple "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt is more appropriate than a green "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt, when attending grandpa's funeral.

Then again, wearing a shirt and tie without a jacket (okay, or maybe a sweater, in season) also strikes me as unfortunate. Some here have called it "the Waiter at Olive Garden" look, which may be a little harsh, if somewhat accurate.

Since this will be for a graduation ceremony, I'm going to suggest it may just be one of the rare situations where you can wear the shirt and tie without a jacket. Since presumably a graduation gown will hide most of your outfit from view, anyway. And the last graduation ceremony I attended was held outdoors, in 93 degree heat, and high humidity, so I would not have faulted any of the graduates for leaving out the jacket.

As for checked or striped shirt, as opposed to solid shirt, either can work perfectly well. But if one isn't confident in choosing shirts, and doesn't trust himself to make a good choice, a solid shirt is usually the safest choice. It may or may not be the best choice; it's simply less likely to be a terrible choice.
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2- What kind of tie would suit a checked shirt.
Almost any tie, potentially. Well, perhaps not a checked tie, at least if the scale of the checks were remotely similar.

But I suppose a solid tie is probably the safest choice with a checked shirt. The choice which would lead to the least amount of second guessing, if one is unsure how to choose a tie.
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Here is the link the shirt i am looking at .
I actually own a Lands' End Traditional Fit No Iron Supima Buttondown shirt (but not the pattern in question), so I'm not going to knock the shirt, as such. Although I wear typically the shirt with chinos, not with a suit.

I do not hold with the idea embraced by some others, that buttondown collar shirts are inherently inappropriate with suits. Depending on the suit, the shirt, the setting, and various other considerations, a buttondown shirt can be an acceptable choice.

However, buttondown collar shirts are, typically, somewhat less formal than the non-buttondown alternative. And a black suit is as severe as a suit gets. So ignoring the fact that I don't approve of the black suit right from the start, it seems to me that a somewhat casual shirt is a bad match for a severe suit. The contrast in degrees of formality is jarring. And that the shirt in question is the marine windowpane one, as opposed to, say, solid white, just makes it even worse.
Edited by 12345Michael54321 - 6/2/13 at 4:21pm
post #21995 of 33196
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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

No one will be able to recommend a tailor unless you ask about a specific city.


You can have pants taken in and I suppose you can have them made skinny- but keep in mind that you will never be able to un-skinny them, so in 2 years when skinny pants are gone (again) you will not want to wear them. 

Oh sorry I forgot to mention NYC. And I won't need to un-skinny them. I wear what I think makes me look good. 

post #21996 of 33196

Any alternatives for suit hangars aside from the Hangar Project?

post #21997 of 33196
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Originally Posted by Wade View Post

Any alternatives for suit hangars aside from the Hangar Project?
Many good alternatives exist. There are dozens (hundreds, more likely) of sources of quality wooden hangers of various sorts, ranging from Jos. A. Bank during a "Buy 1, Get 2 FREE!!!" sale, to amazon.com, to places like HangersandHangers.com and ClosetHangerFactory.com , and so on . Many of my hangers come from HangerClassics.com .

FWIW, my personal experience has been that it's pretty easy and affordable to find quality shirt hangers. Quality pants hangers are almost as common, once you decide whether you prefer a felted bar, or a "grippy" bar, or clamps, or clips, or whatever.

It's when it comes to suit (and sport coat) hangers, that it pays to really understand what you want/need and to do some research. For example, most suit hangers are about 17 - 17.5" wide. As I'm a big, broad backed and shouldered guy, and wear suits that are cut accordingly, I find that 17" isn't enough to best support my suits and jackets. So I bought hangers in a larger size. For some smaller guys, the problem will be in the opposite direction, and they'll want a 15.5" suit hanger, not a 17.5" one. (A discussion of suit hanger size issues may be found at http://www.hangerproject.com/blog/Suit-Hanger-Sizing/.)

'Course, if you need 20" suit hangers, make sure your closet can accommodate them. I've heard of one fellow whose closet had the... pole, you know, the rod that the hangers hang from... positioned such that a 20" suit hanger was just a little too big - the shoulder of the suits hung in that closet, on 20" suit hangers, would rub against the back wall of his closet. So he re-mounted the rod forward, by a couple of inches. A nuisance, but nothing more. Result? His suits now barely rubbed against the closet doors, when they were completely shut. The moral of this story might be "Measure twice, mount once," or something like that.
post #21998 of 33196
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Originally Posted by jbcohen View Post

Well the derby was a type of hat and the other numbers marked would represent size 10 1/2 to 11 e (would indicate the width of the hat),  A 10 1/2E would be a large head.  Derbys have fallen out of favor with men lately but they re sometimes worn to the office and other dress ocasions.  Derbys are also a type of double edge razor blades, they come in packs of ten each and typically sell for eight cents per blade.


 

 

A derby is an open laced informal dress shoe.  Also called a Blucher. 

 

 

Edit: P.S. a size 10.5 head would be friggin' ginormous.  That would be some Rocky Dennis shit. 

post #21999 of 33196

Hah, I was assuming the other guy was kidding or joking about his reply and relating my shoe question to hats.

post #22000 of 33196
i need an affordable <$80 or so pair of work trousers for business casual (navy, gray, etc.)

where can i look?
post #22001 of 33196
Lands End has decent stuff in that price range.
post #22002 of 33196
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Lands End has decent stuff in that price range.

yea i might check them out but problem is i need it kind of quick (within a week)
post #22003 of 33196

I have a plain gray Napoli suit from Suit Supply.  I'm planning on wearing some color 8 cap-toe bals; should I pair them with a plain burgundy grenadine from KW or a navy weft / burgundy warp from VFC?  For comparison:

 

KW:

http://www.kentwang.com/grenadine-burgundy.html

 

VFC:

http://vandafineclothing.com/store/neckties/270-burgundy-navy-grenadine-fina.html

post #22004 of 33196
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Originally Posted by thefastlife View Post

i need an affordable <$80 or so pair of work trousers for business casual (navy, gray, etc.)

where can i look?
As has been suggested, Lands' End. Specifically, I'd recommend their Year'rounder line.

You have indicated that ordering from Lands' End could be a problem, as you need the pants within the week.

If, by this, you're implying that mail order is out, and you need to purchase at a local store... well, you haven't told us where you are. Tough to recommend a local store, without knowing where "local" is.

Bear in mind, you can buy from Lands' End today. Pay a few bucks extra for UPS Express or UPS 2-Day delivery. And the pants will arrive by mid-week. The extra charge for such delivery isn't outrageous.

Lands' End can also hem/cuff your pants, at no extra charge. I don't know whether this delays shipment, but it could potentially save you time, if getting the work done locally would involve a few days turn around time.

How urgent is it that you have the pants ASAP, really? I mean, surely you have a pair or two of acceptable pants already, capable of tiding you over until your new pants arrive.
post #22005 of 33196
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Originally Posted by thefastlife View Post

i need an affordable <$80 or so pair of work trousers for business casual (navy, gray, etc.)

where can i look?

 

If it's not urgent, I would wait for a sale.  I found some nice pants for $75/pair at a local higher end menswear retailer in the fall.

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