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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear) - Page 1430post #21436 of 321735/1/13 at 12:08pm
Styleforum Top Pickspost #21437 of 321735/1/13 at 3:06pmQuote:Originally Posted by mimo
But also in a way that looks untidy and clumsy. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Because it's pulling against his shirt when he moves and is neither holding his tie in place (it's bowing out from his body), nor serving any function as his tie is tucked Mr Bean-style into his pants . The four stooges are wearing their ties too short a-la-hipster, and Connery's is tucked into his waistband. Frankly, both examples are awful.
Fleming's James Bond also was a great advocate of short sleeved shirts and nylon Y-fronts. The James-Bond-As-Style-Reference thing is an eternal red herring. The "real" Bond was, like most fictional heroes, a fantasy of his author, who like many creative types preferred lazy slip-on shoes, easy tie knots (if wearing a tie at all) and loose, utilitarian attire. Hardly the SF-standard. Peter Sellers, John Lennon...two more examples of great creators described by their peers as "too lazy to do up laces". As for the movie Bonds, they have been just as susceptible to the whims of fashion, and more lately, sponsored sartorial idiocy, as any other media creation. One might just as well cite Don Johnson in Miami Vice as an eternal style reference. So just because Fleming's Bond didn't like windsor knots or proper shoes because they're time-consuming, or because Daniel Craig had a DJ with no waistcoat and a size too small. doesn't mean we should all follow.
The gentlemen (and I use the word loosely) in the other picture look awful for all sorts of reasons, mostly related to their awful suits and pretentious posturing, but also silly hair, awful ties and general hipster wankery. The only thing bothersome about the tie clips is that they all seem to match, giving a rather peculiar sense of boy band clubbishness. But for all that, their hideous ties are all perfectly straight and flush to the body. Sean's isn't. Then again, Sean Connery still looked like Sean Connery in a poly-cotton safari shirt and sandals. But it's all relative.
Personally, as I said, I don't really like tie clips an awful lot - really only when I have that short back blade issue, as I mentioned - in which case it goes in its most functional location.
Mimo, I just want you to know I think you're a fantastic poster and a breath of fresh air round this place. But I'm afraid we must from now on we must be mortal enemies because of this tie clip issue.post #21438 of 321735/1/13 at 4:18pmpost #21439 of 321735/1/13 at 8:15pmJust found this from Flusser, which obviously reflects the Gordon Gekko image:
"The wearing of a tie holder is optional, but it certainly produces a neater, more controlled look. It should not, however, be large or gaudy. A narrow gold bar with a plain design or a small clip looks best. The clip should never dominate the tie or stand out. It should be placed in the bottom half of the tie at a forty-five-degree angle downward, adhering to the rule that nothing ought to cross the body directly."
However the problem with placing it on the bottom half is that if you have any gut whatsoever, it just accentuates it. Look at the Connery photo... he's a skinny guy, but it's still not flattering.post #21440 of 321735/1/13 at 8:28pm
Need brown shoes, these florsheim kenmoors are brand new and dirt cheap. They look suspiciously like corrected grain, but people swear up and down that the kenmoor (their new "imperial" top of the line) is full on calf. Thoughts? Should I go for the veblen instead?post #21441 of 321735/1/13 at 9:15pmpost #21442 of 321735/1/13 at 10:39pmpost #21443 of 321735/1/13 at 10:57pmpost #21444 of 321735/2/13 at 12:10amQuote:
If they are calf I will consider them, but corrected is a no go. I cant get a straight answer...post #21445 of 321735/2/13 at 2:14am
To anyone who has ordered an on-line MTM suit, is there any ADDITIONAL measurements (gorge, biceps, wrist etc.) that should be taken to ensure a better fit? I understand that the first fit may not be the best fit but if there are measurements that could be taken to alleviate the common issues then I'd like to know.post #21446 of 321735/2/13 at 3:03am
As some of you may remember from the AE thread, I'm on a quest right now to outfit myself with some footwear.
I'm having a hard time with colors though. There are so many shades. Of course there's basic black, but then there's also walnut, chili, merlot, burgundy, oxblood, light brown, dark brown, etc... And then with casual suede shoes there are all the different tones of blue, red, brown, etc.
What are the guidelines that dictate whether a given shade of shoe color goes with a given outfit? When should I wear "chili" shoes and when I should I wear blue suede shoes?post #21447 of 321735/2/13 at 3:53am
If you are talking about suits, I find this guide from PutThisOn very straightforward:
With casual outfits (save for some SW&D looks, which I am not confident enough to say anything about), brown or burgundy works generally better than black. Darker shades of brown will be easier to wear than lighter shades; it is generally easier to have your shoes darker than your trousers than vice versa. In summer, you can generally wear lighter colors since the summer outfits tend to be lighter, while in fall darker colors are more versatile.
If you are buying your first (couple of) nice shoes, stick to (darker) brown, oxblood and black. The fancier colors (blue, red) should come only after you have at least a full rotation of more versatile colors, if you find that it's your thing.post #21448 of 321735/2/13 at 4:08am
Thanks sinfjotli. That's helpful. Should the shade of shoes reflect the overall shade of the outfit? For example, if the overall tone of your outfit is darker shades (say navy blue, dark green, maroon red, etc...), then does it logically follow that the shoes should be a darker shade of brown to match with the outfit? And vice-versa, if the outfit is brighter or lighter in color tone, should the shoes be a lighter brown to match?post #21449 of 321735/2/13 at 5:02ampost #21450 of 321735/2/13 at 5:16am
Well, here in Arizona I like to keep my outfits very simple because of the heat. There's no fun in layering vests, jackets, etc when the weather is blistering hot most of the year. Just off the top of my head something that I might wear would be a light green poplin gingham shirt with either tan chinos or dark blue jeans. So I think some casual shoes that might go well with that outfit would be... a rich brown suede, such as Allen Edmonds' "Snuff" color? Shown in the spoiler below:
Am I on the right track?
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