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post #21376 of 30158
Hey all,

Two questions:

1 are Allen Edmonds Flatirons only for suits?

2 what's your opinion on these shoes:



Thank you.
post #21377 of 30158
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Originally Posted by Bartleby Trout View Post

Two questions

 

 

1.  No, you could definitely wear these with chinos, even jeans and a jacket.

 

2.  I think they're quite nice.  Allen Edmonds in general are decent shoes in my experience, but look for a sale - there's always some deal, somewhere.

post #21378 of 30158
How high do you wear a tie clip? I usually wear mine right below the 3rd button (starting w/ the neck as #1), but I got a comment today that I should wear it lower. Never really thought about it very much.
post #21379 of 30158

The comment was ill-informed.  You should wear it a third of the way down your tie.  Which it sounds like you did.  

 

Alternatively, don't wear one.  They're a little tacky, but I appreciate necessary from time to time - e.g. if you have some ties that are too short to tuck when tied in the knot you want, or on a windy day.

post #21380 of 30158
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

The comment was ill-informed.  You should wear it a third of the way down your tie.  Which it sounds like you did.  

Alternatively, don't wear one.  They're a little tacky, but I appreciate necessary from time to time - e.g. if you have some ties that are too short to tuck when tied in the knot you want, or on a windy day.

Thanks. I started wearing one for practical reasons.
post #21381 of 30158

Hello again,

 

Sorry I've been posting so much, I'm just shopping around and have a ton of questions. I'll make this my last for a while.

 

Are the Allen Edmonds Benton shoes mainly for suits? Would they be appropriate for chinos/jeans AND suits?

 

Thank you so much,

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF3408_1_40000000001_-1

 

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post #21382 of 30158

More appropriate for chinos than suits.  Semi-formal, not really city wear.

post #21383 of 30158

chinos/slacks and *collared shirt with tie for work shoes?
 


Edited by Bartleby Trout - 4/29/13 at 2:35pm
post #21384 of 30158

Depends where you work, but it sounds right.  Always wear a jacket though - the tie gets dropped first in my book. ;)

post #21385 of 30158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartleby Trout View Post

chinos/slacks and collard [sic] shirt with tie for work
Depends on the dress code (explicit or simply understood) at your place of work.

In any case, I would strongly recommend also wearing a jacket, if you're going to be wearing a tie.
Quote:
shoes?
At most places of work, footwear is a good idea. So yes, wear shoes.
post #21386 of 30158

*collared shirt

 

The dress code is basically look nice because clients will be passing through. Nothing is explicitly stated. We can't walk around in t shirts and shorts, but suits aren't necessarily required, either.

post #21387 of 30158
It's not that I don't want to be helpful, but it just isn't possible for me to tell you whether chinos and a collared shirt is acceptable attire at your place of business. You're the one who works there, so presumably you know how the people there dress. I, on the other hand, have no idea.

At work, do people with positions like yours routinely wear chinos and collared shirts? Do either your superiors at work, or clients, seem to have any issues with such clothing? Do you have any discomfort with the idea of dressing that way? Do you think there'd be some value in dressing either more or less formally, and if so, are there likely to be any drawbacks to the decision?

I've been to places of business where "look nice, because clients will be around," has meant everything from "no really bad stains on your shorts or t-shirts," to "wear a grey or navy Brooks Bros. suit, and your dress shirt had better be solid white," and everything in between.

Oh, and to reiterate what mimo and I have already mentioned, if you're going to wear a tie, you ought to be wearing a sport coat or suit. The necktie-with-no-jacket look is seldom a good one. (When at the office, I strongly prefer wearing a suit, over wearing a sport coat, since the sport coat is not traditionally workplace appropriate. However, this may be irrelevant at your place of work. After all, neither are chinos traditionally workplace appropriate.) (Mind you, on social occasions, I have nothing against wearing a sport coat. It's sometimes a better choice than a suit.)
post #21388 of 30158

What I really meant was, will these go well with chinos and/or trousers/dress pants. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Thank you for your well thought out response!

 

Just for your information, though:

 

When there are major clients coming, we wear suits. On typical days, most people get away with chinos/dress pants/collared shirts/nice shoes, although some still wear suits.

post #21389 of 30158

Michael, scroll back a few: I think what he means is "would the specific shoes he mentioned work with chinos and a shirt and tie".

 

But I agree: shirt and tie with no jacket says refrigerator salesman to me.  Either wear a suit/jacket and tie, or don't wear a tie at all.  If "casual" is the office look, then a nice shirt - maybe a button down - chinos, the shoes in question, and a jacket - even if only worn when arriving and leaving - is a nice laid back look for a gentleman.

post #21390 of 30158

Mimo,

 

Excellent response. Much appreciated.
 

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