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post #21196 of 30345

Adding a half inch in the collar isn't that big a deal, especially as you have such a small size to start with and might yet get bigger. Try it, before you go to the trouble of tailored alterations.

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About 15 years ago my folks went o/s and came back with a couple of very wide D&G ties made up from old noir movie poster prints (1 print covering the whole tie). Unfortunately since them they've both been destroyed/stolen. Does anyone know if they are still around or where to find them?

 If you know where to find them, keep it to yourself.  Sounds hideous, and definitely not SF-approved.  Just because something has a designer label, doesn't make it stylish.  And ties with pictures on them certainly aren't.

 

And while I'm at it, shoes with designer labels are also to be avoided - perhaps even more so: they are either overpriced, terrible quality, or both.

post #21198 of 30345
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Dark brown derby is pretty versatile - you can wear it with anything from jeans to chinos to odd trousers ("slacks"), even a suit if you are not English, though I'd prefer an oxford shoe instead. The difference between derby and oxford:

 

Another thing if you are new: Don't rush into buying things too fast. Read the threads and articles here and elsewhere, get some books (Roetzel's Gentleman, Flusser's dressing the man etc.), but wait a couple of months before you feel confident that you know enough. Your shoes are perfectly serviceable as they are and they should last you long enough before you learn about what makes a good shoe.

Thanks for posting that picture.  Can someone advise me if these Sebagos are formal enough to be worn with a suit, when necessary?  Although they are plain toe oxfords, there has to be other elements (such as leather vs rubber soles) separating a dress shoe from a casual shoe, right?

 

 

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I'm not sure about the light (wood?) soles and burnished tip (which I really like).  They will mostly be paired with jeans or khakis, but I am looking for a versatile pair of shoes for business school.  

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I have these shoes that I bought years ago with a fairly long split toe. Do the proportions look odd to you ? 

Bump.

 

Maybe my question wasn't very specific. Most split toe shoes I see have a rouned toe, with a fairly short seam on the front. This shoe has a rather elongated toe. Is that a classic design or something strange? any advice on what I can wear this with? Thanks.

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Thanks for posting that picture.  Can someone advise me if these Sebagos are formal enough to be worn with a suit, when necessary?  Although they are plain toe oxfords, there has to be other elements (such as leather vs rubber soles) separating a dress shoe from a casual shoe, right?


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I'm not sure about the light (wood?) soles and burnished tip (which I really like).  They will mostly be paired with jeans or khakis, but I am looking for a versatile pair of shoes for business school.  

I like the picture, but don't like how they are grouping balmorals into oxfords. Balmorals are oxfords, but they are a specific type of oxford.

The top shoes do have closed lacing and a plain toe, but the leather they use and the natural heel stack and edge color make them casual IMO and should not be worn with suits.
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Thanks for posting that picture.  Can someone advise me if these Sebagos are formal enough to be worn with a suit, when necessary?  Although they are plain toe oxfords, there has to be other elements (such as leather vs rubber soles) separating a dress shoe from a casual shoe, right? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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I'm not sure about the light (wood?) soles and burnished tip (which I really like).  They will mostly be paired with jeans or khakis, but I am looking for a versatile pair of shoes for business school.  

No, those are very casual.
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Originally Posted by decogeo View Post

Bump.

Maybe my question wasn't very specific. Most split toe shoes I see have a rouned toe, with a fairly short seam on the front. This shoe has a rather elongated toe. Is that a classic design or something strange? any advice on what I can wear this with? Thanks.

These do look strange, but it could just be a very large shoe or even photo perspective.

They aren't my favorite, but I've seen way worse. Wear them a SC. Not formal enough for a suit.
post #21203 of 30345

That confirms my suspicion.  Thanks!

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Two casual shoes (Click to show)

 

Thanks for posting that picture.  Can someone advise me if these Sebagos are formal enough to be worn with a suit, when necessary?  Although they are plain toe oxfords, there has to be other elements (such as leather vs rubber soles) separating a dress shoe from a casual shoe, right?

 

 

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I'm not sure about the light (wood?) soles and burnished tip (which I really like).  They will mostly be paired with jeans or khakis, but I am looking for a versatile pair of shoes for business school.  

 

 

 

The top shoe is called a "saddle oxford".  It's traditionally a "sports" shoe (like a spectator).  I would keep it for chinos, and maybe a coat with no tie.  The bottom shoe is indeed a plain toe oxford.  But as you noted, the natural-coloured welt, prominent welt stitching, textured leather and chunky style, all make it casual.  It's also fuck ugly - don't bother.  For Sebago prices, you can get far more attractive and versatile shoes.  Give us a budget and we will spend it for you. :)

 

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 elongated toe

 

Yes, it has.  A weird looking shoe and I don't much like it.  But each to his own.

post #21205 of 30345

Random request:

 

Does anyone in the NYC area have empty Saphir renovateur containers that they would be willing to part with? (the short glass ones, square on bottom, round opening, in case there is any confusion)

 

I am a musician (bassoonist) and usually use shot glasses to soak my reeds in (anyone who took band in high school is probably familiar with the concept).  I was doing my shoe polish routine when I realized that the renovateur container would make a perfect reed soaking apparatus. It holds a decent amount of water, has a wide opening, but is squat, and made of sturdy glass, so it will resist getting kicked over and shattered (I have been through a lot of shot glasses...)

 

Just 1 would be great, 2 even better, and 3 would be like Christmas.

 

I'll pay for shipping, or I can pick up in person or whatever if you're close to/in Manhattan. And certainly if someone further away has one, I'm interested as well, just figured we might save the trouble if you are in NYC.

 

Thank you, gentlemen!

 

[also posted in the Shoe Care thread]

post #21206 of 30345

Are the PRL oxford shirts sold in USA the same size as the ones sold i Europe? Normally, I wear Custom-Fit Medium, what would the equivalent be in US sizes?

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Random request:

Does anyone in the NYC area have empty Saphir renovateur containers that they would be willing to part with? (the short glass ones, square on bottom, round opening, in case there is any confusion)

I am a musician (bassoonist) and usually use shot glasses to soak my reeds in (anyone who took band in high school is probably familiar with the concept).  I was doing my shoe polish routine when I realized that the renovateur container would make a perfect reed soaking apparatus. It holds a decent amount of water, has a wide opening, but is squat, and made of sturdy glass, so it will resist getting kicked over and shattered (I have been through a lot of shot glasses...)

Just 1 would be great, 2 even better, and 3 would be like Christmas.

I'll pay for shipping, or I can pick up in person or whatever if you're close to/in Manhattan. And certainly if someone further away has one, I'm interested as well, just figured we might save the trouble if you are in NYC.

Thank you, gentlemen!

[also posted in the Shoe Care thread]

The thing about reno is that it takes so long to go through. BTW their other creams come in the same bottle, so no need to restrict this to renovateur bottles. Renomat comes in a different bottle though.
post #21208 of 30345

Can anyone recommend a modestly priced brand of cotton trousers that are slim and mid-to-high waisted?  Just looking for a starting point.

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Adding a half inch in the collar isn't that big a deal, especially as you have such a small size to start with and might yet get bigger. Try it, before you go to the trouble of tailored alterations.

Don't do this. A half inch difference in the collar size does matter, and while you may get fat, I'm guessing that that's not a goal. The collar is the most important part of a shirt, since it's right next to your face, where people look, and it's one of the few things visible when you're wearing a suit, or for that matter, a sweater. Buy the right size. As a 14.5 size neck myself, I've had to get rid of a fair number of 15" shirts given by well intentioned relatives who thought what mimo thought, that the collar size doesn't actually matter. It does. Get the right collar size, and get a shirt body that fits. It might be wise to try a maker other than Brooks too.
post #21210 of 30345
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

The top shoe is called a "saddle oxford".  It's traditionally a "sports" shoe (like a spectator).  I would keep it for chinos, and maybe a coat with no tie.  The bottom shoe is indeed a plain toe oxford.  But as you noted, the natural-coloured welt, prominent welt stitching, textured leather and chunky style, all make it casual.  It's also fuck ugly - don't bother.  For Sebago prices, you can get far more attractive and versatile shoes.  Give us a budget and we will spend it for you. :)

 

 

Man I love this site!  The only pair of dress shoes I have at the moment are black J&M Meltons.  I don't have any true business casual dress shoes either:

 

1000

 

I'll be going to business school and want a brown pair of dress shoes.  Ideally, I'd like them to be versatile enough to go from OCBD/chinos to a suit.  It's looking like I'll need to get one pair of business casual shoes like the saddle oxford above and then another pair of dressier occasions.  In that case, I'll probably use the Meltons exclusively for suits and the sweet spot for the brown shoes will be with a dress shirt and slacks combo.  Most of my pants are slim fit, flat front, if that matters.

 

I'm willing to spend up to $200 but would prefer to stay below $150.  I plan to wear these brown shoes much more often than the JM Meltons, which is why I didn't move into AE territory then.Money is going to be tight as I build up my wardrobe and pay for school.    

 

FWIW I really love the Kent Wang captoes but they are out of my budget and I think also too dressy for casual wear.

 

 

 

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