Don't get me wrong, those wingtips are awesome. I'm more curious if these shoes I posted could work well with some specific items.
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Styleforum Top Pickspost #21182 of 321744/18/13 at 11:07pmTheseQuote:Originally Posted by DerangedGoose
Thoughts on these Johnston and Murphys? I know the brand isnt highly regarded here but its leather soled with a goodyear stitch, and even cheaper than the charles tyrwhitt oxfords:
These don't seem to be that great a deal at $175. I reckon if you spend some time hunting around online stores and SF marketplace you could find some Allen Edmonds for close to that price. I've spent the last few weeks hunting for a bargain myself and I'm pretty sure saw some solid AEs and Jeffrey Wests at about the $200 mark in various sales.
Sorry I can't tell you where exactly as I probably checked about 50 sites and then ended up finding a bigger bargain locally instead.post #21183 of 321744/18/13 at 11:21pmAbout 15 years ago my folks went o/s and came back with a couple of very wide D&G ties made up from old noir movie poster prints (1 print covering the whole tie). Unfortunately since them they've both been destroyed/stolen. Does anyone know if they are still around or where to find them?post #21184 of 321744/19/13 at 12:05am
The leather looks quite wrinkled, but the style is not an awful square-toe, so if you had the shoes for a while and they fit you well, you should definitely keep them - they may not be the nicest shoes around, but even if you had other nice shoes, it is good to have a beater pair that you can wear without worrying about them.post #21185 of 321744/19/13 at 3:57ampost #21186 of 321744/19/13 at 5:16am
The bigger problems with that suit are firstly that it is a fashionable-Ryan-Gosling-meets-Justin-Bieber-in-horror-men-style-mag-KMart-ad two sizes too small, and missing a pair of socks. It's also a very bright colour. "Unstructured" is the least of its worries. It's horrible and doesn't fit.
More structured equals more formal, but that's not to say that a lightly-basted or soft-shouldered suit is unprofessional. I have three linen suits with basting so light it's barely there, that I wear regularly for business because I live somewhere very hot. It's not the end of the world.
But ask the question the other way around: "what suit should I wear for business?", and you'll get a better answer. Charcoal, grey or navy, darker is more formal, solid, pinstripe or chalk stripe is smartest, go conventional with lapel size (between a third and a half of the distance between opening and shoulder seam), make sure it's big enough not to crease or cling in normal movement, and wear good shoes and socks. Light blue or white shirt, and a tie in a dark colour with no pattern or a small simple one.post #21187 of 321744/19/13 at 5:25am^ Thanks.
...I would have worn socks with it for the record.
That one is actually from Suit Supply too! I was just looking for a more 'stand out' suit in addition to a formal suit. Maybe one in a 'petrol blue'. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep looking.
P.S Ryan Gosling is HoT XxX (I.D.S.T)post #21188 of 321744/19/13 at 5:38am
I'm sure he's a wonderful and charismatic man. But he does tend to wear suits that are too small.
Also, it doesn't matter where it comes from. Once you have a basic standard of fabric and construction, the brand is immaterial. An expensive suit that doesn't fit is a far worse use of money than a cheaper one that does. The best suit in the world looks awful on the wrong person, and £200 can be spent very well at M&S if the cut happens to suit you.
What colour are your suits now? Perhaps we can think up something more striking and different from what you have, that is still business enough to make you look good. Also, what's your line of business?post #21189 of 321744/19/13 at 6:40amQuote:Originally Posted by sinfjotli
The leather looks quite wrinkled, but the style is not an awful square-toe, so if you had the shoes for a while and they fit you well, you should definitely keep them - they may not be the nicest shoes around, but even if you had other nice shoes, it is good to have a beater pair that you can wear without worrying about them.
Yes, I was thinking more as a "casual" or "basic" pair of shoes to have. Now here comes my inexperience...what clothes would work best with these? Chinos/khakis, jeans...could I wear a pair of slacks with them on a more casual day?
Again, I'm really brand new to men's fashion.post #21190 of 321744/19/13 at 7:43am
Dark brown derby is pretty versatile - you can wear it with anything from jeans to chinos to odd trousers ("slacks"), even a suit if you are not English, though I'd prefer an oxford shoe instead. The difference between derby and oxford:
Another thing if you are new: Don't rush into buying things too fast. Read the threads and articles here and elsewhere, get some books (Roetzel's Gentleman, Flusser's dressing the man etc.), but wait a couple of months before you feel confident that you know enough. Your shoes are perfectly serviceable as they are and they should last you long enough before you learn about what makes a good shoe.post #21191 of 321744/19/13 at 7:48am
Not with a suit. Conceivably with slacks, even a more casual sports coat too. Definitely with khakis/chinos. Possibly with jeans but might look a bit like your dad.
Also, get some shoe trees and use them - it will help reduce the wrinkles and give them some shape back. And look up some shoe polishing tips in this forum - those shoes can be smartened up quite a bit if they're well made, and their age and use will become a mark of character rather than embarrassment!post #21192 of 321744/19/13 at 7:55am
I wear a 14.5/32 dress shirt. Brooks Brothers regular fit in that size is too tight in the chest but fits me fine in the shoulders and waist. I am worried that a 15/32 regular fit would be too sloppy in the neck and a 14.5/32 traditional fit would be too baggy. Yes, ideally I would go to the store and try them on, but I live way out in the middle of nowhere. The closest store is 5 hours away. Suggestions on how to proceed? Another brand you can suggest?post #21193 of 321744/19/13 at 8:20amQuote:
Well, since it's impossible to really alter the collar, or to let out a shirt, the only real option (other than going for a different brand) would be to buy the 14.5 traditional fit then have it altered to make it less baggy.post #21194 of 321744/19/13 at 8:22ampost #21195 of 321744/19/13 at 8:25amQuote:Originally Posted by ovlov
About 15 years ago my folks went o/s and came back with a couple of very wide D&G ties made up from old noir movie poster prints (1 print covering the whole tie). Unfortunately since them they've both been destroyed/stolen. Does anyone know if they are still around or where to find them?
If you know where to find them, keep it to yourself. Sounds hideous, and definitely not SF-approved. Just because something has a designer label, doesn't make it stylish. And ties with pictures on them certainly aren't.
And while I'm at it, shoes with designer labels are also to be avoided - perhaps even more so: they are either overpriced, terrible quality, or both.
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