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post #20521 of 33020

Are these a strange last shape for a black cap-toe oxford? From the last picture, it looks like the toe is maybe too square or maybe just proportionally too long in comparison to the rest of the shoe... or maybe it's just the camera angle?

 

If anyone can identify which brand and last shape this is a knock-off of as well, that would be pretty neat... I'm in China right now so this is one of the few options for decent Goodyear welt shoes, unless I buy Ferragamos at almost 2x the price in the US, so sorry for the watermarks...

 

  

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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post

I have a sports coat that I feel fits well. The measurements are..


Pit to pit 21
Sleeves 25.5
Shoulder 18
Length 29.5
 
There's a sports jacket I like.. 
 
Specs:


It's possible to get a jacket tailored to these specs if they're purchased with the below, correct? I'm OK with the length being longer. Since the sleeves match perfect, I think the shoulder being an inch wider could droop the sleeves too much.

Thanks,

Not likely. Shoulders are pretty much impossible to alter.
post #20523 of 33020

Anybody have a particular moleskin trouser they like right now? Want to pick up a couple for next year, as I always say, "I prefer to buy my straw hats in winter."

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http://www.bexley.com/Bexley/shoe-MMCACCPRD-EN.htm?cdPrd=Embauchoirs&coloris=red_cedar
 
These go down to a UK 5.5.  A lot of conversions make the difference between UK and US a whole number, but in my experience it's less - I think US sizes tend to incorporate more "wiggle room".  Either way, these are sprung trees so might squeeze into a slightly smaller shoe.  If it's really tight, then it might be best only to leave them in for a day after wearing, rather than all the time.
 
I use these trees myself for a lot of my shoes, as they're crazy cheap.  Unpolished trees are best for removing moisture, and cedar also deodorises your shoes, and probably repels moths from your wardrobe too!  Worth a try for that price anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion, though I'm not sure I wanna get those shipped here to US just to try them out. I guess I'll keep looking around. If anyone has a source in/around DC, that would be greatly appreciated!
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Originally Posted by vimkgt View Post

Are these a strange last shape for a black cap-toe oxford? From the last picture, it looks like the toe is maybe too square or maybe just proportionally too long in comparison to the rest of the shoe... or maybe it's just the camera angle?

If anyone can identify which brand and last shape this is a knock-off of as well, that would be pretty neat... I'm in China right now so this is one of the few options for decent Goodyear welt shoes, unless I buy Ferragamos at almost 2x the price in the US, so sorry for the watermarks...
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Looks like a typical Italian type of chiseled last with the distinct, marked flanks. I dunno why it should be considered inappropriate, if you like it go for it. A round classic last might be considered more classic, but hey it’s you who’s going to wear it, you decide.
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I'm looking to get a pair of blucher mocs from Quoddy (seen here). However, I'm looking for some advice color-wise. I am a fna of the "cavilier whiskey" color, but I am concerned they are too close in color to my khaki chinos. More specifically, I have a pair of Epaulet rivet chinos in Japanese khaki (an example can be seen here and here) that I worry would be too similar to this leather tone. 

 

Any insight at all?

post #20527 of 33020
I have a pair of Lauren prince-of-wales glencheque wool slacks (black and white) but cannot find a matching jacket. What color jacket should I wear with them?
post #20528 of 33020
Honestly, you probably shouldn't. Patterned trousers are very hard to pair as they tend to clash, and if they don't, they draw the eye downward instead of upwards towards your face. The fact that they are in a PoW check is even worse as they will look like orphaned suit trousers.
post #20529 of 33020
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


Not likely. Shoulders are pretty much impossible to alter.

Thank you everyone. The return policy (it was on eBay) was pretty great so I figured why not give it a try. I'll probably end up returning it.

 

Separate question - I only see one thread on Emeraldo Zegna. Are the sports coats they make (made in Mexico!!) not great quality? The thread I read didn't directly answer that. It was more addressed to Saks 5th.

 

ETA: Or is it ERMENEGILDO ZEGNA?..

post #20530 of 33020
Zegna (I'm talking about mainline, not diffusion lines) is good, not great stuff. Certainly better than department store stuff. I'd say it's similar to Canali or Corneliani in build quality, maybe a bit better.

Also, there are tons of threads talking about Zegna (there is even one that breaks down the labels and how to tell how old a jacket is based on the label)--try using Google to search with the site:styleforum.net modifier rather than the on-site search.
post #20531 of 33020
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post
--try using Google to search with the site:styleforum.net modifier rather than the on-site search.

 

That is an awesome general tip - thank you!

 

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Originally Posted by N0Direction View Post


Can someone tell me what this tie-tying method is called? 

 

I think that's a full windsor, although I'm not 100% sure I've seen  it right!

 

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Originally Posted by Perdogg View Post

I have a pair of Lauren prince-of-wales glencheque wool slacks (black and white) but cannot find a matching jacket. What color jacket should I wear with them?

 

I fear Aravenel was right; it wasn't the best choice for trousers.  But...all is not lost.  The thing is, don't try to wear them in any kind of smart or formal combination.  It just doesn't work, you can't, say, reverse the normal patterned-jacket-plain-trousers thing and be "original".  It will look silly.  The only way to wear those trousers, I feel, is to be more casual about it.  That doesn't mean you can't wear them with a jacket - I think you can - but soften the whole thing: unstructured, soft shouldered plain jacket with patch pockets perhaps.  But safer will be touse them with a plain cardigan or v-neck, with or without a tie (if with, go plain, maybe knitted, and narrow), easy white or light blue shirt - a button down might work, your funky trousers, and some proper shoes that are not too city: a country brogue, long wing or something similar.  

post #20532 of 33020
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Honestly, you probably shouldn't. Patterned trousers are very hard to pair as they tend to clash, and if they don't, they draw the eye downward instead of upwards towards your face. The fact that they are in a PoW check is even worse as they will look like orphaned suit trousers.
When you say patterned? What are you referring to exactly? Is herringbone, nailshead, birdseye, and houndstooth also included in that description?
post #20533 of 33020
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


When you say patterned? What are you referring to exactly? Is herringbone, nailshead, birdseye, and houndstooth also included in that description?

 

Can't speak for Mr Aravenel of course, but I'd say all of those things are better off as a suit.  Houndstooth I wouldn't do as odd trousers - maybe an odd jacket.  The others might be OK, being more of a texture than a pattern in my opinion, probably best in a rich/country colour and tone.  Charcoal herringbone works quite nicely for trousers.

post #20534 of 33020
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

When you say patterned? What are you referring to exactly? Is herringbone, nailshead, birdseye, and houndstooth also included in that description?

Nailhead would maybe be OK as that's almost a texture more than a pattern, and resolves to solid... Maybe some birdseyes as well. But personally I'd stay away from anything more patterned than pick-and-pick/sharkskin in trousers.

Before anyone gets up in arms about how it's *possible* to do patterned trousers in some particular niche case, I'm coming at this from a practicality perspective. A pair of trousers that are very hard to pair and only go with one outfit are not something I want in my closet. If I had infinite money and infinite closet space, perhaps I'd consider it... But I don't, so I need my trousers to be easy to pair, and I'd wager that anyone on this forum who isn't Vox is in the same boat.
post #20535 of 33020
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Honestly, you probably shouldn't. Patterned trousers are very hard to pair as they tend to clash, and if they don't, they draw the eye downward instead of upwards towards your face. The fact that they are in a PoW check is even worse as they will look like orphaned suit trousers.

Have to agree. It possible to pull off of course, but it's Advanced Course 3A.
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