I have khakis. I have one tie that I wear to funerals and weddings.
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Styleforum Top Pickspost #19817 of 301151/17/13 at 6:48pmpost #19818 of 301151/17/13 at 6:51pmQuote:There's nothing idiotic about what you're thinking, and quite a lot right about it. It sounds like a fine look for a business-related dinner where you want to look nice, but not "suit nice." It's a traditional and versatile look.Quote:No problem. And since you admit that you're still a bit lost, I'm going to make it easy for you. No searching eBay for used stuff and trying to figure out what's good and what's not. No waiting for some flash site to run a sale, available for 30 minutes, to members only. No, nothing like that. What I'm going to do is suggest where you can get the stuff you want/need, easily, within budget, and with return privileges. So not necessarily the very best pieces or deals, but we'll save that for a later date, when you're feeling less lost, okay?Bonus points if you can give me links where I can buy it online and be done with it.
1. Cheap blazer. Actually, it's an "inexpensive" blazer. Go to http://andersonlittle.com/ . Hopefully, you already know your jacket size. If not, swing by some dry cleaners that does alterations, and have the alterations guy (or woman) measure you.
Then run it past Anderson Little, and ask them if, based on your height and weight, the number makes sense. (Hey, it never hurts to confirm things.) Then buy yourself an A-L blazer. $179, and free shipping.
It's not a great blazer, but it's a perfectly acceptable blazer. It's also not particularly trim-fitting, but frankly that's a plus in my book.
Once it arrives, take it to the dry cleaners where you had the alterations guy (or woman) measure you, and reward that person by paying a few bucks to get the blazer's sleeves shortened to the right length. That's may well be all you'll need to have done to it to get it to fit tolerably well. It's an inexpensive alteration to get done.
2. Khakis. You could go to Sierra Trading Post, and try to figure out which pair of Bills Khakis fits you the way you want, and get them for 30% off the already reduced price by using a coupon obtained as a result of offering Sierra Trading your undying love on Facebook or something. Or you can go to www.landsend.com, read the descriptions of the various khakis offered, and buy a mess of them in all different sizes and styles, secure in the knowledge that you can keep the one pair that works best for you, and return all the rest to any Sears store for a refund, no muss, no fuss. Oh, and Lands' End will, in most cases, even hem/cuff the pants to your preferred length, at no extra charge. (I prefer them cuffed.) And there are always discount coupons for Lands' End. $10 off $50, free shipping, 30% off, etc.
I don't know how much this will cost you, but let's say $30-60, depending on exactly what you buy, where you buy it, and which specific coupon you use.
3. White shirt. The aforementioned Lands' End. I like the combination of a button-down collar with a blazer. But either way, Lands' End. It'll probably set you back around $35. More or less. It'll be a highly acceptable white shirt. Not the best, but inexpensive and entirely satisfactory for its intended purpose.
4. A tie. This one's easy. Go to www.thetiebar.com Narrow it down to a few ties that you like, and come back and ask for people's opinions, if you want. They have a zillion ties to choose from, so you may want to decide ahead of time what sort of tie you prefer. Silk knit, or "regular" silk. Stripes or geometric pattern. With a navy blazer and white shirt, there are LOTS of perfectly reasonable ways you can go here. Both of those clothing items are dead easy to match to a tie. Anyway, not the greatest ties in the world (not even close), but they are perfectly fine ties, and The Tie Bar offers a huge selection, and the price is a mere $15 per tie.
Assuming you already have an appropriate pair of shoes, you're all set. Under budget and everything.
Michaelpost #19819 of 301151/17/13 at 6:52pmpost #19820 of 301151/17/13 at 6:57pmpost #19821 of 301151/17/13 at 6:57pm
You want to buy a dress shirt. It'll be sized in actual numbers. Like 16.5/34-35, or 16/32, or something like that. Where the first number (the 16.5 or the 16) is your collar size, in inches. And the second number(s) represent your sleeve length.
If you don't already know your shirt size (in numbers, not just that you're an XL), then find some online video on how to measure yourself for shirt size (I'm sure there are plenty of such on youtube), and find out. At most, it'll cost you about 89 cents for a tape measure.post #19822 of 301151/17/13 at 7:01pmpost #19823 of 301151/17/13 at 7:04pmQuote:It matters, and is dependent on a variety of factors - the type of tie in question, the lapel width of your jacket, your build, etc.
If you wear an XL shirt, I'm guessing that you're probably not a particularly petite fellow (hey, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry). Such being the case, and given the lapels on the blazer I suggested, you could probably wear a regular width tie. This isn't a hard and fast rule - I'm a big fellow, myself, and some of my ties are skinny, although the majority are not. But without seeing you or knowing more, that'd be my advice to you. And if the skinny tie would've had you looking more young and hip, well, you're talking about wearing this to a business-related dinner, and not to some club in search of female companionship.Quote:Not something I've ever wanted to do, but whatever makes you happy, my friend.man I need to read GQ or something.post #19824 of 301151/17/13 at 7:08pmQuote:Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321
It matters, and is dependent on a variety of factors - the type of tie in question, the lapel width of your jacket, your build, etc.
If you wear an XL shirt, I'm guessing that you're probably not a particularly petite fellow (hey, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry). Such being the case, and given the lapels on the blazer I suggested, you could probably wear a regular width tie. This isn't a hard and fast rule - I'm a big fellow, myself, and some of my ties are skinny, although the majority are not. But without seeing you or knowing more, that'd be my advice to you. And if the skinny tie would've had you looking more young and hip, well, you're talking about wearing this to a business-related dinner, and not to some club in search of female companionship.
Not something I've ever wanted to do, but whatever makes you happy, my friend.
I'm more wide than fat but definitely not petite. I'll check out the wide ties. Thanks again for your help - I'll be back if things get crazy.post #19825 of 301151/17/13 at 7:08pmQuote:You could - a navy tie with a navy blazer can be a very good look. But you don't have to, and may find that bringing in another color makes things more interesting.
For example, you might opt for something like a blue and [insert other color HERE] stripe tie.post #19826 of 301151/17/13 at 9:05pmpost #19827 of 301151/17/13 at 11:08pmpost #19828 of 301151/17/13 at 11:54pmQuote:
I'm assuming overcoat and not jacket.
Purpose? Other coats?
Blue will fill more needs. I'd get this one first. Or charcoal.post #19829 of 301151/18/13 at 12:32amQuote:
In particular, I want to buy a new single breasted trench coat (blend cotton, garbadine etc) I want to know that whether a mid-lenght honey trench coat make me looks smaller than a navy ones?
I think the navy is more versatile than the honey but I still don't own any kind of honey color coat.post #19830 of 301151/18/13 at 12:35amQuote:Originally Posted by lostinfashion
Been reading this forum but I'm still lost. I have a dinner (business related) that's not suit nice but not shorts and sandle casual. I have $300 or so to spend. I was thinking a cheap blazer, khakis, white shirt and a tie but it seems plain - I have no idea what to get. Something that doesn't make me look like an idiot would be nice but if idiocy is all I can get I'll take it.
I think a blue blazer is a great way to start your wardrobe since it is so versatile. I personally would save the khaki pants for less dressy days- I think of them as equal to jeans- but better used when boating, golfing, etc. Not wedding or funerals- khakis are sport clothes.
The advise you have received so far is great. I'd only add that you could get into a nice pair of stone, khaki or charcoal slacks for a decent price and really bring the outfit together much better than with khakis. Unless you are aged 15-28, in that case khakis/blazer/striped tie is a great preppy look. Hard to pull off when you get older. Older guys do better with charcoal/grey wool slacks or stone colored dress pants.
Also- it is impossible to overstate the importance of wearing nice shoes. The best outfit can be instantly destroyed by bad shoes. If you want to know if a man has style, look at his shoes. Simple, conservative black leather shoes will be enough to keep you safe- no tread or rubber bumpers.
Where are you located? Perhaps some members of SF might be able to suggest some local places to get into some good pieces on a budget?
Best of luck with you outfit choices!
Edit: sorry- My iPad didn't quite get my reply right.
Edited by AmericanGent - 1/18/13 at 3:36am
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