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post #16666 of 33127

Regarding suit terminology:

 

1. What is the "drop" of a suit? (for example, a 40 drop 6)

2. What is the "roll" of a suit? (for example, the 3 roll 2 suits that were being discussed last night in another thread)

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Originally Posted by diglett View Post

Regarding suit terminology:

1. What is the "drop" of a suit? (for example, a 40 drop 6)
2. What is the "roll" of a suit? (for example, the 3 roll 2 suits that were being discussed last night in another thread)

Drop is the difference between the chest size and the waist size. So your example would have 34" pants. A 6" drop is pretty standard. Slimmer suits might be 7 or 8, and typically as suit sizes go up, the drop decreases. As an example, I think JAB has a 4" drop for size 48 and above.

Roll is for three buttons and refers to what button it buttons to. 3 roll 2 means it is meant to be buttoned at the middle button only, so it looks like a 2 button.
post #16668 of 33127

This is a total noob question, but I get different answers everywhere I ask so I'm going to ask the people who know.  When wearing a white (dress) shirt, what is the rule for undershirts?  Some say no undershirts because you can see the sleeves of the undershirt if one is not wearing a jacket.  Some say to avoid this by either, not wearing an undershirt at all, or wearing a sleeveless shirt.  Some say having the sleeves visible is just part of the look.  Who is right?

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Originally Posted by Paisan View Post

This is a total noob question, but I get different answers everywhere I ask so I'm going to ask the people who know.  When wearing a white (dress) shirt, what is the rule for undershirts?  Some say no undershirts because you can see the sleeves of the undershirt if one is not wearing a jacket.  Some say to avoid this by either, not wearing an undershirt at all, or wearing a sleeveless shirt.  Some say having the sleeves visible is just part of the look.  Who is right?

Someone can surely give you a better answer, but I'll say personal preference. If I am going to sweat through it (i.e. giving presentations), I'll go with a v-neck undershirt. I'll still wear wife beaters on more relaxing days. Showing sleeves really doesn't bother me but showing a crewneck looks terrible.
post #16670 of 33127

Does anyone know how long it takes before my image posts stop being moderated? I've tried posting a few things but usually find that it takes a long time for approval and by then my post is already bumped back so far that no one would probably see it...

post #16671 of 33127
Went looking for a new suit something more fashionable just to wear for weddings and found a Valentino at off 5th for $530, is it worth it? Can anyone suggest something better to try? I appreciate the help.
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Does anyone know how long it takes before my image posts stop being moderated? I've tried posting a few things but usually find that it takes a long time for approval and by then my post is already bumped back so far that no one would probably see it...

It varies depending on the moderators' workloads. You should post your question in the "Transparent Moderation Log" thread in the General Chat forum. They monitor that one more closely.
post #16673 of 33127
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


Drop is the difference between the chest size and the waist size. So your example would have 34" pants. A 6" drop is pretty standard. Slimmer suits might be 7 or 8, and typically as suit sizes go up, the drop decreases. As an example, I think JAB has a 4" drop for size 48 and above.
Roll is for three buttons and refers to what button it buttons to. 3 roll 2 means it is meant to be buttoned at the middle button only, so it looks like a 2 button.

 

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Originally Posted by jojov View Post

 

The drop is the difference between waist and hips.   Taper refers to the the chest to waist differential.  But in off the rack suiting, the drop refers to the difference in jacket to trouser size, which as a standard in the US, is 6".

Okay, I understand drop now, but I'm still confused about roll. If 3 roll 2 means that a 3-button suit should only be buttoned in the middle, what's a 3 roll 2.5? I saw that being mentioned just yesterday in reference to one of the characters in USA's "Suits".

 

Edit: Also, does anyone know of any reputable cobblers or tailors in the Washington, DC area? I'm looking to put sunken metal toe taps in some shoes, which I'll probably get done at Sky Valet (unless someone suggests something else), and I also need to have a shirt darted and a raincoat's sleeves taken in at the shoulders.

post #16674 of 33127
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Originally Posted by diglett View Post

Okay, I understand drop now, but I'm still confused about roll. If 3 roll 2 means that a 3-button suit should only be buttoned in the middle, what's a 3 roll 2.5? I saw that being mentioned just yesterday in reference to one of the characters in USA's "Suits".

A 3 roll 2 is a jacket constructed so that the lapels encompass the top button and buttonhole as in the photo below. You can see the buttonhole on the lapel on one side. On the opposite side the button is hidden beneath the lapel. This is different from a 3 button suit in that you could button the top button on the 3 button, but if you button the top button of the 3 roll 2 it fouls up the lapel. When someone calls a jacket a 3 roll 2.5 it means the roll ends about halfway between the top two buttons.

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Edited by Steve Smith - 8/10/12 at 9:08pm
post #16675 of 33127

Am I Doing Anything Wrong with my Outfit?

700

 

Will be wearing this for the four weddings coming up. Just wanted to know if I look awkward/weird in my choice of color/coordination. Shoes will be black oxfords.

post #16676 of 33127

Is the Zegna for Neimen Marcus the same quality as mainline Zegna?

 

I know the Sachs near me carries a lesser quality Zegna line, but they call it Z Zegna.

post #16677 of 33127
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Will be wearing this for the four weddings coming up. Just wanted to know if I look awkward/weird in my choice of color/coordination. Shoes will be black oxfords.

Personally I don't like all the black. Also with all the black, the pocket square doesn't go in my opinion. I also wouldn't puff it out so much either.
post #16678 of 33127

Evening all,

I'd appreciate some suit advice, primarily regarding colour.

I own one charcoal suit, for sombre occasions etc. (and a dinner suit, but that is neither here, nor there). I never wear suits at work (Navy, so always in uniform). Thus, any time I would wear suits the occasion will be social, so I don't need to strictly adhere to business demands. I don't want something trendy and soon to be out of date. I prefer to stick to very traditional styles, as I feel they always look refined and respectable.

 

I'm 20 years of age, quite fair skinned with dark red/brownish hair, thin and moderately tall.

 

What colour would you suggest for a single breasted (very possibly three piece) suit? I'm looking at a shade of grey (no pattern), not too light, and not too flat. This for instance appeals to my eye, but I welcome divergent views.

 

Also, any particular criticisms of a ventless italian styled suit?


Thank you for any opinions.

post #16679 of 33127

Hey guys, can anyone help me find a blazer similar to this one?

 

400

 

 

 

I've tried looking around for similar sports jackets but i just seem to only come across the generic tweed blazers, have had no luck finding anything remotely similar to this one. My budget is around £200.

Would really appreciate any help, thanks. 

post #16680 of 33127
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Originally Posted by jojov View Post

The drop is the difference between waist and hips.

Wait, what?
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