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post #13711 of 33186

i discovered the company Barbour while living in London, but I'm going to be returning to my native NYC next month. Does anyone know how Barbour's pricing works in the US? If a jacket costs 300 pounds, will it cost 300 dollars in the US, or the properly converted price of $475? If it's cheaper in the US, I'd obviously like to wait until I get home to buy stuff from them.

post #13712 of 33186

Most Barbour jackets are $375 (can't remember if this is the exact amount, but it's just shy of $400) in the NYC Barbour stores. I went into the Soho store earlier this year.

post #13713 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff View Post

If a jacket costs 300 pounds, will it cost 300 dollars in the US

I'm struggling to understand what train of logic could possibly make you think that would make sense.
post #13714 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post

I'm struggling to understand what train of logic could possibly make you think that would make sense.

When I used to work retail at Timberland, I believe that was how the pricing worked there. A pair of classic 6" work boots was $160 here in the US, but the same boot in the UK would be GBP 160. Don't ask me how any of that makes sense.

I was in the SoHo Barbour a few weeks ago to look at this jacket:

http://www.barbourbymail.co.uk/Mens-Barbour-Short-International-Waterproof-Jacket.html?utm_source=Barbour_Online&utm_medium=referral

If I recall correctly, the US price was $400. If the pricing scheme is the same across the board, you're probably better off buying in the UK and claiming back VAT upon departure.

In my last trip to London I bought a pair of C&J Drummonds. After all was said and done my out of pocket was around $480 buying from the UK as opposed to buying retail in the US where I think they sell for $600 + tax.

On another note, I also noticed that TopMan charges twice as much in the US as they do in London. You can see this clearly when you check the tags in the UK. The US price is usually converted at a rate of 2 rather than what the current rate is of approximately 1.6USD to a GBP.
post #13715 of 33186

yea that's what i've been running into here. a lot of stuff (but not all stuff) costs exactly the same price in dollars or gbp, which basically means i've been paying 160% for everything i've bought since i've been living in london. that's why i'm wondering if i should wait until i get back to the US to get this barbour jacket. the thing is, barbour is a british company though...

post #13716 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post

I'm struggling to understand what train of logic could possibly make you think that would make sense.

Years ago, I was in the Shannon duty-free shop when the Irish currency was still the Irish pound (or punt). The exchange rate at the time was about $1.50 to the punt. The American woman in line in front of me was trying to purchase a 5 punt item with a $5 bill. The cashier calmly explained to her over and over that they did not accept US currency and that, even if they did, $5 was not sufficient for her purchase. The American woman kept repeating "Money is money!", getting louder and louder until she was practically shouting, finally leaving disgusted with the "stupid" Irish shop girl. As she was on my out-going flight, I can only assume she was relying on credit cards throughout her stay and had quite a nasty shock when her statement arrived.
post #13717 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

When I used to work retail at Timberland, I believe that was how the pricing worked there. A pair of classic 6" work boots was $160 here in the US, but the same boot in the UK would be GBP 160. Don't ask me how any of that makes sense.

Timberland are an American company; it makes perfect sense for American companies products to be cheaper in America because of the extra cost of shipping products to the UK. The does often result in American products being sold for a GBP amount in the UK equal to their USD cost in the US.

It doesn't, on the other hand, make any sense for a British company (Barbour) to pay to ship stuff to the US, then to sell it for less than it would be sold for where it originated from...
post #13718 of 33186

Has anyone explained the VAT to spliff?

post #13719 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post

It doesn't, on the other hand, make any sense for a British company (Barbour) to pay to ship stuff to the US, then to sell it for less than it would be sold for where it originated from...

You would think that would be the case, but I understand that you can actually get Crockett & Jones shops in the UK to ship to the U.S. and sell it for less than you would buy here in the U.S.
post #13720 of 33186

Value Added Tax is for anything sold in the UK and is included in the sticker price.. If they're shipping out of country it is not charged, if you're a foreign national and you keep reciepts, when you leave the country they'll refund the vat (usually). Its typically around 30% IIRC so if you had something thats worth a pound, which is ~1.50 US then with the vat subbed out they're almost identical pricing and the same amount of profits for the company if they sell it for a pound or dollar in the respective markets

post #13721 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post


It doesn't, on the other hand, make any sense for a British company (Barbour) to pay to ship stuff to the US, then to sell it for less than it would be sold for where it originated from...


BTW japanese now.

post #13722 of 33186
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Originally Posted by pronxs View Post

anyone familiar with Brooks Brothers 1818 Regent Suits? Not too familiar with suiting brand/quality but found one at about 300usd brand new. Just need a nice formal suit for events, etc.
feedbacks/comments/suggestions for other brands appreciated.

Regent is one of 4 cuts in the BB 1818 line. Materials are the same across the line. Construction is half canvassed. The 1818 line is hugely popular on SF (and everywhere else) because it provides a huge bang for the buck. IMO, diminishing returns kick in when you get past 1818, and many others agree. If the Regent fits you, then it is a fabulous value, and I'm not just saying that because you recently inquired about one of mine. Go out into any retail venue and look at their $300 suits. Not. Even. Close. You can see the difference on the hanger and feel the difference with your hands.

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Originally Posted by irgator04 View Post

I just got the Fitzgerald, it is more trim looking, I tried on a Regent and it is more loose. Go to their website it explains the different styles. 

Note that on the 1818 suit section of the BB website they list the four suits top to bottom in this order: Madison (fullest), Fitzgerald, Regent, Milano (slimmest). That is not a random arrangement.

Regent is not cut larger than Fitzgerald. If anything, it is slimmer. Take a look at the Brooks Brothers Size Chart. Pants on a Regent are 1 or two inches smaller in the waist than pants on the same size Fitzgerald suit. Otherwise the most prominent difference is that Regent typically is double vented while Fitzgerald is typically single.
post #13723 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Liam O View Post

Value Added Tax is for anything sold in the UK and is included in the sticker price.. If they're shipping out of country it is not charged, if you're a foreign national and you keep reciepts, when you leave the country they'll refund the vat (usually). Its typically around 30% IIRC so if you had something thats worth a pound, which is ~1.50 US then with the vat subbed out they're almost identical pricing and the same amount of profits for the company if they sell it for a pound or dollar in the respective markets

In another thread or possibly this one we discussed that the take away price would be approximately 5/6 of the GBP retail price. GBP non-VAT price + VAT (I think 20%)= Retail UK price.
post #13724 of 33186
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Originally Posted by Liam O View Post

Its typically around 30%

VAT is only 20%, and a portion of what you save by not paying VAT would instead go on import duties if shipping from UK to US (or vice-versa).
post #13725 of 33186

Where is the cheapest current site to buy a filson original briefcase 256 in tan?  Does Crane's still have a coupon code? 

 

Thanks!

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