1. I am a Turnbull veteran for 6 years. On the plus side they have exclusive fabric designs, its famous stripes and plaids. These are unique. The negatives: base price is about $300 per shirt (which I think is a little high), a couple of fittings may be needed if you want a precise fit (pattern and shirt are made in English factory), and wait can be 2-3 months. Turnbull is a big commercial business, therefore, your order is one of many. BTW, Turnbull sells packages of its exclusive shirtings for about $75 per, therefore, you can bring the cloth to your shirtmaker. 2. I have used Bruce Cameron Clark in NYC. He doesn't make the shirts; he'a a bespoke clothier, and he has a shirtmaker off-premises. He used to be in charge of shirts for Nutters. He's very precise, and the shirts are better than Turnbull. He can also turn-out a shirt order in 2 weeks. Negative: price is higher than Turnbull. If you want a very precise fit you would have to buy a sample shirt, launder it, and return for another fitting. Bruce is a small shop, therefore, you'll receive much personal attention in fitting, etc. 3. Both of the aforesaid recommendations require at least one fitting if you are very precise and want a very precise fit. 4. If you do not want to spend the time and energy for multiple fittings in NYC, I recommend the following: a) Find your local stores which sell Oxxford. They should also have the MTM shirt of Individualized Shirts. Under the Oxxford bespoke label (made by Individualtized) they can make one sample shirt which you can perfect before ordering more. I'm trying one, and I have found the Individualized Shirt to be very good for the money. The bespoke line is handmade and is comparable to Turnbull in quality. The price runs from about $200 to $400, and there is no minimum. I have used the regular Individualized Shirt, which is a lesser manufacture (and costs less), and I have been very satisfied with it. b) If you want a very precise fit, you have to have at least one fitting after the sample is made. Therefore, I feel that visiting shirtmakers from England and Europe are not practical. It is more practical to use a local. c) I think that the Borrelli is an excellent RTW shirt, but I have been disappointed with MTM. In a couple of cases the order did not arrive. In another case the order was botched on the second time around, and I returned the order.
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1/24/05 at 5:03pm