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post #6031 of 14864
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

ed, that is fantastic. i cant really reply to it all right now, but i will break it down later. would like to further this conversation, as i think it is a very good and useful one.

Stitch, don't take this the wrong way, but I am seeing a pattern with you. This is the second or third time in my casual perusal of this forum where someone has taken the time to write out some great advice/suggestions (or a detailed sartorial quote, previously) and rather than read it and think about what has been written, you are quick to tl;dr the quote (albeit politely). And yet you DO appear to have the time to post endlessly.

Quick $0.02 (unsolicited): learn to read; learn to listen and to take the time to absorb life rather than taste it in sound bites and snippets. Get a full course sometime--I bet you'll really Iike it.
post #6032 of 14864
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Ok so let me preface this by saying, I don't really know you or live with you (uhoh.gif), don't know your day to day routine and what your style is so I am going to give you some generic style advice with a bias towards what I wear/like. This type of advice is never meant to be taken word for word, but rather as a template into which you input your needs/desires and ideally come out a bit better than you went in.
It sounds like we dress in a similar fashion, probably most guys here who work in an office dress in a manner in which you described. So my first piece of advice is a navy sportcoat or two, a winter fall weight and something lighter, neither of them worsted wool. A navy coat is one of those things that you can wear 3-4 times a week, changing the shirt/tie/pants, and no one will think you are wearing the same thing. Another color that I suggest is brown for a sportcoat, something with texture and in a weight/fabric that you can wear 8 months of the year. Again, very versatile and changing the shirt/tie/pants, it won't look like you are wearing the same thing. I would further suggest getting more basic solid color or smal patterned jackets, different fabrics, until you have 4-5 or so. So there you have a stable of coats that you can wear with none being so in your face that everytime you wear it, everyone remembers the last time you wore it. After you have that, then you can go towards louder stuff.
Shirts/ties: You seem to like patterned shirts, which is fine. And you say that you wear a dress type shirt seemingly everyday. My preference for a shirt worn tieless with a sportcoat is a button down collar shirt, but I realize that is not to everyones taste. I would suggest not wearing spread collar shirts that have short to medium points tieless as they tend to disappear into a coat and also tend to make one's face look more rotund. With a tie, I wear both BD collars and regular collars. If you preference is to patterned shirts, your ties should lean to solids and micro prints. Solid ties sound boring but there are many great fabrics that provide good texture and accentuate the shirt/sportcoat. In terms of shirt colors, I would stay away from yellows, greens, purples and any solid dark colors or "odd" colors (taupe etc). Tie colors, I would stick with blues, greens, browns and red/rust.
Pants: You don't have to wear wool pants with sportcoats but I like their versatility. I would start with multiple solid grey pants (different shades/fabrics ), a brown or two, some textured stuff in browns/blues/greys (calvary twill, donegal, linen blends). In termsof khaki's, I would want to have 3-4 "dress" pairs, meaning nice fabric cotton or cotton blend pants that wear like wool pants. You can also get browns/greys in cotton/cotton blends. If it has a leather patch on the back or comes with the leg hemmed/finished, don't wear it with a sportcoat.
Shoes: I think sportcoats call for more "casual" dress shoes, meaning not super sleek, shiny shoes. NST's, brogues, boots, in suedes, dark leathers, grained etc. Sleek, formal shoes look good with suits (I don't like them but that is neither here nor there), but when you wear a pair of something very sleek with cotton pants and textured sportcoat, it looks silly to me. By the same token, don't wear cream/white suede shoes with rubber soles with grey wool pants, it just looks off.
So, all this stuff is subject to your intepretation and your style, you might not want or need multiple grey pants, or solid color ties but the basis behind this advice still stands, start off with versatile, classic basics and build out from there. If you have more patterned pants than you have solid, thats not good (assuming suit/sportcoat wardrobe). Same thing with sportcoats. Once you have the navy and grey suit, the mulitple white and blue shirts, the multiple boring ties, then you can branch out into the stuff that you think is fun. Its like anything else, build on the foundation and you'll find yourself with much more overall outfits as you'll be able to combine almost everything.
When I read on the forum someone just getting into dress shoes buying double monks or their first suit be a peak lapel slim suit or only buying unlined ties with hand rolled tips and throwing around all the buzzwords, I see someone heading into trouble. I don't know/think this because I'm some savant or incredibly knowledgeable about clothing and style but because I went through the same thing. I was the guy buying everything in sight that was an SF approved brand or trend, particularly if it was on sale. Never gave thought to how something I was buying works into my wardrobe or lifestyle. Eventually you look at your closet, full of clothes but you have a hard time putting together a good outfit. Then the purge starts.
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This is excellent Ed. I have been one of those people that have fallen trap of coming to SF and looking at all these great looks and buying individual pieces that dont always really work well together (shoes, SCs, shirts, ties). Now I feel like I am playing a little bit of damage control and catching up on some basics that you have mentioned here. I have been trying to add pieces wherever I can but as we all know takes a while for it to happen.
post #6033 of 14864
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Originally Posted by EBugatti View Post

Stitch, don't take this the wrong way, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
but I am seeing a pattern with you. This is the second or third time in my casual perusal of this forum where someone has taken the time to write out some great advice/suggestions (or a detailed sartorial quote, previously) and rather than read it and think about what has been written, you are quick to tl;dr the quote (albeit politely). And yet you DO appear to have the time to post endlessly.
Quick $0.02 (unsolicited): learn to read; learn to listen and to take the time to absorb life rather than taste it in sound bites and snippets. Get a full course sometime--I bet you'll really Iike it.

+1, very insightful post.
post #6034 of 14864
I think the first step is to stop posting pics of packages and tagged unworn clothing on the internet.
You're here to learn about style, not collecting.
post #6035 of 14864
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

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These need to be my last purchase for a long time!!!!! Warning-pictures are supersized. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Great Looking shoes. I used to have the same pair but had to get rid of them because they were a half a size too small. Enjoy.
post #6036 of 14864
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

A gray suit to go with the navy one on page 384.
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Looks a tad bit snug, but this could just be because of how you're standing in the photo. Enjoy both of the suits.

-LR
post #6037 of 14864
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Originally Posted by EBugatti View Post

Stitch, don't take this the wrong way, but I am seeing a pattern with you. This is the second or third time in my casual perusal of this forum where someone has taken the time to write out some great advice/suggestions (or a detailed sartorial quote, previously) and rather than read it and think about what has been written, you are quick to tl;dr the quote (albeit politely). And yet you DO appear to have the time to post endlessly.
Quick $0.02 (unsolicited): learn to read; learn to listen and to take the time to absorb life rather than taste it in sound bites and snippets. Get a full course sometime--I bet you'll really Iike it.

i have to disagree with you here. i think i always take the time to properly reply to these posts. at work i often do not have time to write a reply with the attention that these posts deserve, but i think i do always get back to them later on. the same wil be for eds post, i assure that i will. i read his post 3 times, and absorbed it well, i am sure i will read it a few more times.

i have taken a lot of advise from people here, and have been implementing it over time. i can read, and i do listen.

the quick post i wrote before was simply to let ed know that i saw his post and it most certainly was appreciated, and did not go unnoticed.
post #6038 of 14864
sidebar - some of those convos also end up in PM.

i dont mean to sound angry or offended, i am not. i just dont want ed, or anyone else who has taken the time to write out a long and thought out post for me, to think i do not give them the appropriate attention.
post #6039 of 14864
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

I think the first step is to stop posting pics of packages and tagged unworn clothing on the internet.
You're here to learn about style, not collecting.

i think everyone agrees there is nothing to learn from pics of boxes, it just adds a bit of fun to the thread participants. i dont think there is necessarily any harm in that.
post #6040 of 14864
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i think everyone agrees there is nothing to learn from pics of boxes, it just adds a bit of fun to the thread participants. i dont think there is necessarily any harm in that.

Agreed. I lurk a shit ton and this is one of my fave threads. I love seeing everyone's sick purchases (albeit I get a little jelly.)
However, Stitches your box pics are the equivalent of Spice Channel pr0n. We want to see what's inside the box. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifuhoh.gif
post #6041 of 14864

Stitchy, I like the teez pics at work then when I get home you have posted the great items :) Do ya thing bro.

post #6042 of 14864
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i think everyone agrees there is nothing to learn from pics of boxes, it just adds a bit of fun to the thread participants. i dont think there is necessarily any harm in that.

There should be no fun.

Fashion is srs bsnss.

Nah it's just something i'm a little perplexed by in general. I think it started out as a joke and people haven't yet realised that it's not funny.
post #6043 of 14864
A package arrived today...
post #6044 of 14864
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

There should be no fun.
Fashion is srs bsnss.
Nah it's just something i'm a little perplexed by in general. I think it started out as a joke and people haven't yet realised that it's not funny.

Have you never read a PurseForum thread with 800 pictures of a "reveal"? confused.gif
post #6045 of 14864
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Ok so let me preface this by saying, I don't really know you or live with you (uhoh.gif), don't know your day to day routine and what your style is so I am going to give you some generic style advice with a bias towards what I wear/like. This type of advice is never meant to be taken word for word, but rather as a template into which you input your needs/desires and ideally come out a bit better than you went in.
It sounds like we dress in a similar fashion,

so what i have taken from this post, is that i dress just like edmorel. bigstar[1].gif

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probably most guys here who work in an office dress in a manner in which you described. So my first piece of advice is a navy sportcoat or two, a winter fall weight and something lighter, neither of them worsted wool. A navy coat is one of those things that you can wear 3-4 times a week, changing the shirt/tie/pants, and no one will think you are wearing the same thing. Another color that I suggest is brown for a sportcoat, something with texture and in a weight/fabric that you can wear 8 months of the year. Again, very versatile and changing the shirt/tie/pants, it won't look like you are wearing the same thing. I would further suggest getting more basic solid color or smal patterned jackets, different fabrics, until you have 4-5 or so. So there you have a stable of coats that you can wear with none being so in your face that everytime you wear it, everyone remembers the last time you wore it. After you have that, then you can go towards louder stuff.

it really is truly shameful that i do own a navy SC yet. i have bought 6 SCs since joining, none are solid navy. one is navy, but it has a light brown windowpane. not loud, but still decidedly not navy. i recently bought a solid brown SC with some texture, i posted it not too long ago, and i am very pleased with it. i have worn already quote a few times, and never feel like i am wearing the same thing, because it is used with different pants and shirts each time. im sure a navy wold be even better, hopefully that will be an addition i make sooner than later.
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Shirts/ties: You seem to like patterned shirts, which is fine. And you say that you wear a dress type shirt seemingly everyday. My preference for a shirt worn tieless with a sportcoat is a button down collar shirt, but I realize that is not to everyones taste. I would suggest not wearing spread collar shirts that have short to medium points tieless as they tend to disappear into a coat and also tend to make one's face look more rotund. With a tie, I wear both BD collars and regular collars. If you preference is to patterned shirts, your ties should lean to solids and micro prints. Solid ties sound boring but there are many great fabrics that provide good texture and accentuate the shirt/sportcoat. In terms of shirt colors, I would stay away from yellows, greens, purples and any solid dark colors or "odd" colors (taupe etc). Tie colors, I would stick with blues, greens, browns and red/rust.

as i looked through my shirts, i think they are actually mostly solid color. mostly white, and a few blues. the patterned shirts i have, i really consider to me more casual shirts, ones i tend to wear sans SC. i had always been anti OCBDs, but i also had never really wore SCs, i only wore a jacket as a suit, and then i wore a tie. as i have started to wear SCs more, i realized that i really dont like non OCBDs without a tie. the collar inevitably seems to fall, and get lost under the coat, whereas the OCBDs stay up, nice and crisp, above the SC lapels. i am planning to zone in on my next shirt purchases being OCBD as i very often wear trou/SC/no tie, and i have enough solid non OCBD shirts for when i wear a tie. as well, i noticed most of my older shirts have shorter collars, which really do not work for me, especially because i have a round shaped face.

as to ties, as well, almost all my previously bought ties would fall in the louder camp. either in color, design, or sheen. i actually do not find boring solid or neat ties to be boring. i have found when employed properly, they can really add to the outfit, and pull things together, much like a good rug, in that regard (big lebowski reference). i think the last half dozen ties, or more, i have bought would be classified as boring. which i like. including solid black and navy grenadines from hober that are in transit at present. i do need to add a solid red/rust though, at some point. and a nice, small patterned shepherds check and houndstooth would also be welcome additions.
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Pants: You don't have to wear wool pants with sportcoats but I like their versatility. I would start with multiple solid grey pants (different shades/fabrics ), a brown or two, some textured stuff in browns/blues/greys (calvary twill, donegal, linen blends). In termsof khaki's, I would want to have 3-4 "dress" pairs, meaning nice fabric cotton or cotton blend pants that wear like wool pants. You can also get browns/greys in cotton/cotton blends. If it has a leather patch on the back or comes with the leg hemmed/finished, don't wear it with a sportcoat.

i agree with you here, in that i much prefer wool trou with a SC. this is my favorite part of your post, because i have 4 pairs of solid gray pants in different shades and weights, and thought i had made a mistake, i feel much better now. no brown yet though, good rec. no real textured trou either.

i can say though, i will not be getting any wool/linen blends. smile.gif

i know that there are "dress" khakis, that can worn like wools, but i have no dress khakis that i would wear with a SC, and dont really plan on that in the near future. as i really prefer wool pants with a SC, and khakis with a casual shirt, no jacket.

as an aside, the drill khakis in my post that prompted all this, i dont know if they are useful or not, or "good" pants or not, but i wore them today, and holy hell are they comfortable. cotton and linen are perfect for bmore summers. light enough that you stay cool, but structured enough to not become a wrinkle fest like all linen trou.
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Shoes: I think sportcoats call for more "casual" dress shoes, meaning not super sleek, shiny shoes. NST's, brogues, boots, in suedes, dark leathers, grained etc. Sleek, formal shoes look good with suits (I don't like them but that is neither here nor there), but when you wear a pair of something very sleek with cotton pants and textured sportcoat, it looks silly to me. By the same token, don't wear cream/white suede shoes with rubber soles with grey wool pants, it just looks off.

first, what are NSTs? shog[1].gif

i dont really have all that many shoes, but dress suedes are something that i think i need to add, thanks for the tip on using them with SCs, i would not have known that.
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So, all this stuff is subject to your intepretation and your style, you might not want or need multiple grey pants, or solid color ties but the basis behind this advice still stands, start off with versatile, classic basics and build out from there. If you have more patterned pants than you have solid, thats not good (assuming suit/sportcoat wardrobe). Same thing with sportcoats. Once you have the navy and grey suit, the mulitple white and blue shirts, the multiple boring ties, then you can branch out into the stuff that you think is fun. Its like anything else, build on the foundation and you'll find yourself with much more overall outfits as you'll be able to combine almost everything.
When I read on the forum someone just getting into dress shoes buying double monks or their first suit be a peak lapel slim suit or only buying unlined ties with hand rolled tips and throwing around all the buzzwords, I see someone heading into trouble. I don't know/think this because I'm some savant or incredibly knowledgeable about clothing and style but because I went through the same thing. I was the guy buying everything in sight that was an SF approved brand or trend, particularly if it was on sale. Never gave thought to how something I was buying works into my wardrobe or lifestyle. Eventually you look at your closet, full of clothes but you have a hard time putting together a good outfit. Then the purge starts.

i can happily say, that at present i have only 1 pair of patterned office pants, and no peak lapeled suits or double monks. not that i dont like them, but at least that is something i recognized that i was not ready for, nor could i really properly use.

sadly, i think my trajectory was similar to yours it seems, in that i bought a lot of things that i really had no idea how to use, without having any real foundation that i was building on. i am attempting (not that i dont slip from time time, i do have desires, you know) to really make more thought out purchases, and make a start, albeit late, on building my wardrobe with more functional, multi-use, staple items.

posts like yours are really helpful, to anyone who cares to pay attention, in making that foundation. there are things in there i did not know, and things i did know, but bear repeating, or i didnt really understand until now. and having those things put forth so clearly, succinctly, and in a very organized fashion, are a great resource to have, and look back to. and to keep as guide.

thank you very much for taking the time to do that. i hope it is undestood that i do read these things, and take them to heart, and apply them to my style in the ways i am comfortable with and able.
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