I am still correct
I knew just by looking at that blank collar strap/loop. Most Carusos have that.
Clark, Milano is too snug for me and I prefer a straight leg style generally. I also decided on these over the J Lawrence I had purchased earlier as my every day workplace chino. Not on quality alone, as the J Lawrence is far superior in material and construction, but based on the ability to sit in the BB Clarks for a few hours and still feel my legs. The J Lawrence will remain a valued piece in my wardrobe, just not for extended sitting activities.