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post #16 of 30
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I think you can hold an opinion without logical reasoning if it is subjective opinion.  I do not like the color fuscia.  I don't know why, but I needn't resort to the color wheel and spectrometer to know I don't like it or to justify my opinion.  The question of whether one likes a watch strap is implicitly subjective, right? Hey, Johnapril -- Gungagalunga.  
You do not like fuchsia, perhaps because it is too effeminate, or perhaps because it is too bright. (These may not be the reasons, but it is still true to say you have reasoning, whether you realise this reasoning or it remains sub-conscious - being a subjective contrivance really has nothing to do with it.) However, if this reasoning remains sub-conscious, general etiquette would say that you do not have a right to hold this view, subjective or objective. I really do not want to beguile this matter any more.
post #17 of 30
Although to me Armcyce's arguments did make sense, so maybe it is just the language barrier that means that ernest cannot understand. P.S. Ernest did'nt really attack him, he just gave counter points to Armcyce's
post #18 of 30
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Super.  You're happy.  That's all that matters.  But your apparent indifference is at odds with (1) the fact that this thread exists at all and (2) your aggressive reaction to negative votes. You said:  "The only problem is I do not UNDERSTAND your arguments and found them totaly senseless  (rules NOT to break, what Rolex do...) and I explained you why." >  It's all subjective.  Don't take it so personally. So I hope you could express you opinion with more sense. >    You ask if the man if he likes your strap.  The man does not like your strap, and he says so.  You attack the man.  Let it go.
Where am I agressive? He hasn't just said he didn't like the strap but gave me some RULES which I broke and some very accurate reasons. He told me he didn't like it and explained why : - BECAUSE Rolex do not sell watches with rubber (as if I was asking about if it lookes like a Rolex and as if Rolex had the monopoly of taste) - because I broke a "rule" (where does this rule come from?) = steel case diver watch implies steel bracelet - because there is a space between the case and the strap (but proposes to take a rubber with holes or a leather to look like Breit and I do not see how it would it would solve the problem of the space...) These arguments are objective (were is a space but a leather strap wouldn't change anything) or false (black matches with black...). 2 problems = 1) they are not told as if they were rules and I would like to know from where these rules are coming. 2) The solutions he gave would change nothing to the reasons why he do not like the strap = Put a strap with HOLES or a leather one
post #19 of 30
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Although to me Armcyce's arguments did make sense, so maybe it is just the language barrier that means that ernest cannot understand. P.S. Ernest did'nt really attack him, he just gave counter points to Armcyce's
Thanks. But I do not see in which way a strap with holes or a leather strap would solve the problem of the space. I do not see why a steel case should have a steel bracelet and why the black rubber doens't match as the bezel and dial are black. I do not see why I should do like Rolex for the strap. Please explain as you think these arguments are not senseless.
post #20 of 30
Ernest: Accept my apologies if I offended you. You say repeatedly that you "do not think" that something somebody said before is correct. Why? Is is it because you subjectively "do not think" they are right? Probably, because you can't point to any mathematically verifiable source to say that what "you think" is correct and what another poster "thinks" is incorrect. I "think" that is what Armsyce was saying when you challenged him for additonal explanation of what "he thinks." Anyway, you describe Armsyce as having given "very accurate reasons" for what he "thinks." Judge his reasons as good or bad. If you agree, get a new strap and burn the old one. Or put it on a plastic Casio. If you disagree, wear the thing with pride. Again, sorry if I said something inappropriate.
post #21 of 30
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Ernest: Accept my apologies if I offended you. You say repeatedly that you "do not think" that something somebody said before is correct.  Why?  Is is it because you subjectively "do not think" they are right?  Probably, because you can't point to any mathematically verifiable source to say that what "you think" is correct and what another poster "thinks" is incorrect.  I "think" that is what Armsyce was saying when you challenged him for additonal explanation of what "he thinks."  Anyway, you describe Armsyce as having given "very accurate reasons" for what he "thinks."  Judge his reasons as good or bad.  If you agree, get a new strap and burn the old one.  Or put it on a plastic Casio.  If you disagree, wear the thing with pride. Again, sorry if I said something inappropriate.
What would objectivitly change a Casio strap regarding to the space between case and strap? What would it change regarding to the "mistake" of color as it is black too?
post #22 of 30
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Ernest: Accept my apologies if I offended you. You say repeatedly that you "do not think" that something somebody said before is correct.  Why?  Is is it because you subjectively "do not think" they are right?  Probably, because you can't point to any mathematically verifiable source to say that what "you think" is correct and what another poster "thinks" is incorrect.  I "think" that is what Armsyce was saying when you challenged him for additonal explanation of what "he thinks."  Anyway, you describe Armsyce as having given "very accurate reasons" for what he "thinks."  Judge his reasons as good or bad.  If you agree, get a new strap and burn the old one.  Or put it on a plastic Casio.  If you disagree, wear the thing with pride. Again, sorry if I said something inappropriate.
"So you're violating three rules of watch styling, and not doing it artfully." Does it seem sensefull for you?
post #23 of 30
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I'm afraid I must give this a thumbs down. The watch is a stainless diver style-- basically in the style of the Rolex Submariner, but not a real Rolex. Submariners and other high-grade diving-style watches use a link piece to fill the crescent-shaped space between the metal band and the watch. They also ALWAYS match the band color to the watch color. So you're violating three rules of watch styling, and not doing it artfully.
What are these 3 rules?
post #24 of 30
This will be my last post on this: Yeah, it makes sense to me; whether I agree with it or not is another thing. My reasons for not liking it is that it purports to be one thing (a black bracelet) when it is another (a rubber strap, I assume because you call it a "strap.") With regard to the Casio comment, I meant this: If you are ashamed of how the strap looks becaue 75% of the folks who cared to vote expressed a negative opinion, then slap it on a Casio or whatever other beater watch you may have when working the garage, yard, or gym.
post #25 of 30
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This will be my last post on this: Yeah, it makes sense to me; whether I agree with it or not is another thing.  My reasons for not liking it is that it purports to be one thing (a black bracelet) when it is another (a rubber strap, I assume because you call it a "strap.") With regard to the Casio comment, I meant this:  If you are ashamed of how the strap looks becaue 75% of the folks who cared to vote expressed a negative opinion, then slap it on a Casio or whatever other beater watch you may have when working the garage, yard, or gym.
What are you talking about? This is a rubber strap and then? It has a sense to say you do not like black with steel as it is a RULE to wear a bracelet and afterwards to advice to take a Casio plastic strap or a leather one? Have you got a problem of listening or understanding? I like this strap very much so I have no reason to change it as I do not wear a trap for others but for me. You do not reply to my questions and you do not explain what a casio strap would change.
post #26 of 30
Yeah, I got a problem of listening and understanding. That must be the problem... I didn't say get a Casio strap. I did say stick the strap you have on a Casio.
post #27 of 30
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Yeah, I got a problem of listening and understanding.  That must be the problem... I didn't say get a Casio strap. I did say stick the strap you have on a Casio.
I didn't say you said to get a Casio strap I did say take a Casio
post #28 of 30
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Yeah, I got a problem of listening and understanding.  That must be the problem... I didn't say get a Casio strap. I did say stick the strap you have on a Casio.
Careful, earnest is going to blow a gasket and spray gunk on you, bone, and perhaps a bit of the black bile so commonly reviled by Greeks in the know. Step to the left. Step to the right. Serpentine. Serpentine, Shelly.
post #29 of 30
This strap is very trendy now = Chopard and Chanel use this design
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by manouche View Post
This strap is very trendy now = Chopard and Chanel use this design
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