Originally Posted by why
I don't like body part splits.
They're stupid because they always include compound lifts with millions of assistance exercises. I mean, really, a whole day dedicated to shoulders? A day dedicated to chest which includes bench pressing?
Bench press involves the shoulders more than the chest and the triceps even moreso. The entire lift is very dependent upon the strength of the triceps and shoulders, yet it's a 'chest day' lift. What's the point? Why not just ignore 'shoulder day' and 'chest/triceps' and just call it bench press day? The same is true for 'back/biceps day' except in reverse. You again don't need a shoulder day because if you're doing heavy rows you should be working your back, biceps, and shoulders. Why not just do more compound lifts and call the workout days 'bench/row day'?
And for your lower body, you should be squatting, deadlifting, and maybe adding on good mornings. Quit wasting time with the BS exercises and just focus on a few good ones. You'll progress easier and the progression will be easier to evaluate.
There's no reason why deadlift can't be done on 'chest day' or squat on 'back/biceps day' except for the cookie-cutter completeness created by making sure the body part split actually includes all body parts based on the premade template. In other words, the workout is based around the concept of working body parts isolated from each other. Any body parts lacking their own day get shoehorned in somewhere based on priority and the preconceived notion that every part should receive equal attention. Respectably Utopian, but ultimately deleterious to fitness.
Are you joking?
Do you even go to a gym other than an excuse to wear overly tight leotards to show to other people because you would get beaten up in the streets if you do that?
People don't split bodyparts due to some preconceived notion. People split because it is a way to do more and harder over a period of time. I have never heard of any present Mr Olympia contestant training as you propose, because its stupid.
Like someone pointed out, if you do heavy compound exercise for chest and deadlifts and shoulders on the same day, you would run out of energy very quick.
Based on your (lack of) logic, if I do chest, I should do shoulders, traps, triceps and biceps since they are all connected. I can tell you doing that is ignorant. I did balls to the wall bench (fear factor style BTW). After that, you would be ready to puke, your triceps would be fried. You cant do military presses because your triceps would exhaust first before your shoulders and your shoulders workout would hence not be satisfactory. BTW benching only affect your front delts. If it affects your other delts, even when you do incline bench, guess what Einstein, you are doing it wrong!!
Also, if you do squats and deadlifts in the same workout, your deadlifts would be very poor as your quads will be tighter than a virgin snatch and you would be on the verge of vomiting every time you bend down to grab the bar. And you even want to add Good Mornings? How about Good Byes? You either never practise what you preach or "˜training' means doing 1 set of squats where you are a bit short of breath and rest 10 minutes reading "˜Hello!'.
By doing logical splits, you can go all out on chest today, all out on back tomorrow and all out on shoulders the day later. You would find your weight and reps are at its optimum compared to your ass backwards haphazard mixing of steak on top of ice-cream washed down with Nyquil.
Of course there is some value in doing whole body workout in 2 sessions. But those are more for strength and size filling. Those aint no bodybuilders because that don't let you do enough "˜filler' exercises to fill our the "˜missing' parts.