Hipster: The Dead End of Western Civilization - Page 7

Originally Posted by Nico Samuel Pleninsek

Do you never tilt onto the illegal side of life? Never took a drink before age 21?

I really don't understand some of the criticisms in this topic here. What is wrong with seeking obscurity? Do we on here not do that? If you ask me the whole idea of even caring about clothes seems a bit hipster-esque.

To be honest the whole hipster thing has so many parellels to prior subcultures like skinheads, mods, punks; it is the same damn thing packaged in a different time period. And yet this article paints the picture that this hipster movement's only concern is vain aesthetic; is this not the same as the former ones?

Why is there this angst against fixed gear bikes? Who gives a fuck; personally I respect those who "adopted the fixed-gear bike as the only acceptable form of transportation" because it is a fucking workout. Yes I have one, but usually I just use my roadbike. Is it so "hip" to give a damn about the environment that one should not out of fear of being called a hipster?

Am I a hipster for doing black room photography? Am I just a fagot trying to play the irony card, should I catch up with technology and go digital? I guess everyone on here who loves nice leather shoes should emerge into the 21st century and by a comfort shoe.

"the youth of the West are left with consuming cool rather that creating it" --sounds like styleforum, but wouldn't it almost be hipster-esque to make your own clothes? I mean a sweatshop kid can make that shit for cheap. Anyhow I know some "hipsters" who are damn good artists.

Originally Posted by Nico Samuel Pleninsek

Do you never tilt onto the illegal side of life? Never took a drink before age 21?

I really don't understand some of the criticisms in this topic here. What is wrong with seeking obscurity? Do we on here not do that? If you ask me the whole idea of even caring about clothes seems a bit hipster-esque.

To be honest the whole hipster thing has so many parellels to prior subcultures like skinheads, mods, punks; it is the same damn thing packaged in a different time period. And yet this article paints the picture that this hipster movement's only concern is vain aesthetic; is this not the same as the former ones?

Why is there this angst against fixed gear bikes? Who gives a fuck; personally I respect those who "adopted the fixed-gear bike as the only acceptable form of transportation" because it is a fucking workout. Yes I have one, but usually I just use my roadbike. Is it so "hip" to give a damn about the environment that one should not out of fear of being called a hipster?

Am I a hipster for doing black room photography? Am I just a fagot trying to play the irony card, should I catch up with technology and go digital? I guess everyone on here who loves nice leather shoes should emerge into the 21st century and by a comfort shoe.

"the youth of the West are left with consuming cool rather that creating it" --sounds like styleforum, but wouldn't it almost be hipster-esque to make your own clothes? I mean a sweatshop kid can make that shit for cheap. Anyhow I know some "hipsters" who are damn good artists.

Originally Posted by Eason

West24 is my kind of guy, we should go out and beat some hipsters sometime. (no homo)

Originally Posted by v0rtex

All subcultures are in some way like this - they're a rejection of "mainstream" social values.

As the impressively attractive, wealthy or well connected tend to do quite nicely out of mainstream values, it stands to reason that all subcultures will attract poorer, uglier, less powerful members of society who will create social hierarchies based around other values (who's got the biggest mohawk or most ironic 80s sneakers...)

So I agree with you in that regard, but I don't think it's limited to hipster culture.

Originally Posted by bbaquiran

Fixed gear track bikes were very popular with bike messengers because they were cheap and simple -- no gears, no derailleur or shifters to break. There's a bit of an elitism to being part of the bike messenger subculture, and that probably spilled over into hipsterdom.

Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant

If it hasn't been posted before... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster...ary_subculture) Does anyone know why adherents to most modern subcultures almost always look unathletic? For example, do they attract people who aren't built much like the ideal and generally dislike exercise and in turn are hostile to individuals who are body-conscious?

Originally Posted by Fuuma

I think you're basically misreading hipster looks. Heroic-chic has been cool for what, 20 years now? The aesthetic and surface elements are at least as important as with guidos and other NJ luminaries.

Originally Posted by Fuuma

Fools!! The article was just a skillful ploy to advance the end of history agenda, otherwise why would anyone publish that article in 2008 instead of 2004 (at the latest).