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So far that's 3 MW and 0 LHW who have accpeted a challenge. IDK, why not get one of the LHW from over at SF who are just sitting on their hands over there. Dana should be ashamed of himself.

Edit: Someone on Junkie had a really good idea. Let's make Sonnen vs. Weidmann the main event. Since both guys are willing to fight on 8 days notice. Not a bad idea I thought.

It's a shame really but it's hard to fault people when so much is on the line.

For someone who has stressed that he doesn`t back down EVER against ANY opponent, Bones sure is doing just that.

Also I understand where Machida is coming from. He took their last fight on late notice and no full training camp in and we all know what went down.

I do understand where Jones` side as well. this aint the old days of when people do a week of training camp.

But cmon, you`re practically being fed a likely out of shape MW in chael. I don`t care what conspirators are saying whether Chael has known Hendo have been injured and has been aiming to fill. Jones is the champ, Dana is the boss, take the fight.

...and if its a shitty fight do you still think its a good idea? Because that's what I would plunk down $50 bucks for, to see Jones work and out of shape opponent.

Better than no event at all. I pay to watch ANY intriguing fights. Thing is, had Jones accepted the fight, this whole argument would be invalid. Jones gets Chael while Hendo is shelved; Other UFC 151 fighters are happy to get paid win or lose (not everyone got a Nike/UFC sponsorship); MMA fans get to see Jones tool Sonnen; The whole MMA community wouldn`t be divided in the issue.

Jones would be hailed as not to backing down against any game opponent.

But see, that's the thing, you still could have had an event. The problem is that Dana didn't do enough to make this a PPV a legit $50 purchase. If he did he wouldn't be in this situation. And, I'm sorry, but Jon Jones has walked though 4 former champs in about 18 months, I don't think he generally cares how he is perceived especially since in 6 months or so this will have been forgotten.

I can agree with both of your guys points. How about maybe the UFC shouldn't write checks theirs asses can't cash. To many events. Slopho is right.
It's Zuffa's job to make the card worth while. They should have had guys in the wings. Hendo is old an injuries in training camps happen ( more than they should).
Sonnen is a shit talker and came in for damage control to take the heat away from Zuffa. As long as Chael is given the chance to talk it takes away from the big issue why wasn't the card set up so that if an injury or something threatening to the card happened there was a back up.
Is this fair?

If any of you are watching the latest installment of The Ultimate Fighter, a fighter who started with our little group here is on the show, Bristol Marunde: http://www.theultimatefighter.com/fighters/bristol-marunde He started here while he was in college, and eventually went to train full time with Xtreme Couture. Apparently, he trains with Forrest Griffin a lot. He has some decent experience, with a fight take on short notice, in Strikeforce against Jacare. Loss, but a pretty decent showing.

He has good standup, but you can tell from his first fight that his base is wrestling, with solid BJJ (which is the emphasis around here.) The guillotine was tight, technically sound (especially in positioning, which guys who learn at subpar schools often get wrong) and the result was a nearly immediate tap. Incidentally, unless you have a great squeeze, or are just that long, the guillotine from the closed guard is pretty easy to fight out of. You just post your head, lift up your body to relieve pressure and to force the guy to use a lot of core to keep the guard tight, against gravity, and push on the elbow. All working with gravity. If you see the way Bristol did it last night, his angle prevented his opponent from this rudimentary defense. If you watch a high level guy like Nate Diaz, he will often throw his leg over the shoulder for extra leverage and to prevent the opponent from squaring up the shoulders and initiating the shake and bake defense.

Also, he is huge at Welterweight. He usually fights at 185 lbs, and a lot more musclebound.

Incidentally, seeing him overpowered for part of the round against the fence reminds me of how strong and well conditioned are MMA fighters compared to how it was when I fought (back in 2000-2002).

152, i didn't realize it until tonight but i seem to have left the jon jones train. Vitor did better than (I) expected. Bisping looked like a top 4. Was looking forward to that match up and was a little disappointed. Other surprise was Grand and Dunham. Great fight with a debatable outcome. Will be interesting to read the break downs tomorrow on that one, and curious to hear what you guys have to say. I, based on judges scoring, had dunham winning that one. Scoring aside, taking simply fighting into account, I had Grant. Regardless, great fight.

On to the elephant in the corner. lots. and lots. and lots. of empty seats there..

LA: best of luck to your guy, i'll keep my eyes pealed. the AUS/UK show also just started up, will be catching up on that one this week.

I was screaming "Break it!" when Belfort had the armbar in the first round. Alas, it was not to be.

He broke something. I'm sure of it. Anyway, I think that Jones definitely showed heart. That was his toughest fight to date, easily, and he fought through an injury.

Saw a picture of him in a sling, hopefully it's just a bad hyperextension and not a brake/fracture.

Okay. That was the first time I ever saw Jones in any kind of trouble and even with that he still won the round.


I don't think you can say 10 seconds of an arm bar vs. the whole first round against Lyoto, which he lost, was a tougher fight.

Your two statements, together, don't make sense. I love Lyoto. Awesome fighter, seems like a class act. But for sure, have your elbow seriously damaged by a pretty excruciating armbar, and then having to fight for nearly three more rounds after that, is worse than being peppered and being able to catch a guy, for one single round.

L.A., which fight would you say he looked more beatable in?