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post #5281 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Huge announcement from Dana White at 2 PM. Rumor is that UFC 151 is cancelled.

Confirmed. Dan Henderson injured during training, out of title fight. Chael Sonnen accepted UFC offer to replace Henderson. Jon Jones refused fight with Sonnen, will fight Lyoto Machida at 152 instead.
post #5282 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Confirmed. Dan Henderson injured during training, out of title fight. Chael Sonnen accepted UFC offer to replace Henderson. Jon Jones refused fight with Sonnen, will fight Lyoto Machida at 152 instead.

I see people piling on Jones for not taking the Sonnen fight, but screw Dana. He wants Jones to take on an Olympic caliber wrestler with 8 days notice?? Nope, no thanks. And shame on Dana that one fight can turn this from a $50 PPV to something you wouldn't put on Fuel TV. If the rest of the card was worth something maybe it could have been salvaged somehow.
post #5283 of 5436
Wow, Dana is pissed. He's all but calling Jones a coward. I wouldn't take the fight if I was Jones either.
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post #5285 of 5436
Yeah, Dana gets that way sometimes. I remember when he was ultra pissed at Silva after the Maia fight. "I told someone else to put the belt on him, I didn't even want to be in the ring with him" he said. Look, Jones is the first UFC fighter to really get some kind of commercial recognition. Why he's trashing him is beyond me. Short term pain for long term gain by making a better fight. IMO.

Edit: and to Bisping, how did that turn out?
post #5286 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Slopho View Post

He wants Jones to take on an Olympic caliber wrestler with 8 days notice??.
Doesn't that describe Hendo as well?
post #5287 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Lendo View Post

Doesn't that describe Hendo as well?

When was the last time you saw Henderson attempt a takedown?

Edit: Also, Sonnen is getting praised for his "willingness" to go fight Jones with 8 days notice. Sure, for a big pay day I'd be willing to start the Redskins season opener as QB. I wouldn't do any good, but I'd be willing. All the fans saying Jones should step up and take the fight should ask themselves 1. Could Sonnen win this fight? IMO No. 2. Would you rather have an admitted $0 PPV card saved by a fight that probably wouldn't last 2 rounds.
post #5288 of 5436
Good point on both of those things, i was playing devil's advocate more than anything. If possible on such short notice, the could just switch it over to FOX or something like that.
post #5289 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Lendo View Post

Good point on both of those things, i was playing devil's advocate more than anything. If possible on such short notice, the could just switch it over to FOX or something like that.

People are saying that Dana knew for a couple of weeks that Henderson was hurt and that's why the Sonnen Jones beef got started, to gauge interest in a possible fight. Rankings be damned in the UFC I guess. Jones didn't let this card get scrapped, Dana did. Besides, I like having 2 championship fights on the next card, and to be quite honest a good deal of UFC 152 wasn't looking to impressive either.
post #5290 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Slopho View Post

All the fans saying Jones should step up and take the fight should ask themselves 1. Could Sonnen win this fight? IMO No. 2. Would you rather have an admitted $0 PPV card saved by a fight that probably wouldn't last 2 rounds.

Sonnen has a very small chance to win this fight, but still a chance. If he truly had no chance, Jones would take the fight in a second. The risk of losing to a guy Anderson schooled last month is just too great.
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LOL. Not sure if Sonnen is a genius or a lunatic.
post #5292 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Sonnen has a very small chance to win this fight, but still a chance. If he truly had no chance, Jones would take the fight in a second. The risk of losing to a guy Anderson schooled last month is just too great.

You're right, Sonnen would have a chance, I don't think he'd get it done though. The thing that erks me about this situation is that Dana is trying to lay the loss of this card solely on Jones. It isn't Jones' job to make a good card. Its Dana's, and if he fails at all of his attempts at a plan B that isn't Jones' fault either, its Dana's. White's attempts to save this card should be an insult to fans. What I want to see are good fights, and no matter what 8 days notice I don't believe would produce a good fight.

Edit: "Just do....nothing" Burn Sonnen rolleyes.gif
post #5293 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

LOL. Not sure if Sonnen is a genius or a lunatic.

Sonnen is currently the best troll in MMA. Always amusing.

Not sure about his comment saying he was the highest paid fighter though...
post #5294 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Slopho View Post

You're right, Sonnen would have a chance, I don't think he'd get it done though. The thing that erks me about this situation is that Dana is trying to lay the loss of this card solely on Jones. It isn't Jones' job to make a good card. Its Dana's, and if he fails at all of his attempts at a plan B that isn't Jones' fault either, its Dana's. White's attempts to save this card should be an insult to fans. What I want to see are good fights, and no matter what 8 days notice I don't believe would produce a good fight.

I agree. UFC PPVs are getting too diluted. Without the main event, UFC 151 is one of the worst PPVs I can remember.

Machida turned down the Jones fight. Now Jones is fighting Belfort. WTF?
post #5295 of 5436
After how badly Machida lost last time, I don't fault him for wanting more time to train. But Belfort? The fuck.
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