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post #5176 of 5436
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Originally Posted by hrb View Post

I don't really see hendo taking him out unless he lands a lucky shot but at least he wouldn't be timid. Looking at the list, Alexander Gustafsson seems like a logical choice after his next fight (provided he wins), but don't really think he could take him either. I would really like to see Silva push back up to 205, though I don't think that would happen.

I think that Jones was timid because he couldn't go to his safe zone, which is takedown followed by vicious ground-and-pound, and his standup is not at the point, yet, where he could confidently counter the speed of Rashad. Right now, his advantage in standup is his monster reach, and that served him well against guys like Shogun and Rampage, who have good power, but are not really great at closing gaps, but he's shown some vulnerability to fast guys who have good counter wrestling. In his last fight, up until he choked Machida unconscious, it was a pretty fair match as well, and he got dinged by a couple of shots.

Hendo would be an interesting matchup. He is pretty relentless, and trusts his chin, and I could see Hendo stalking Jones down and taking shots, looking for that one big punch. Of course, Hendo is getting old, and his wrestling doesn't seem to be where it once was. And of course, he has a long history of lying on his back, which, against Jones, means that he would get completely devastated with elbows, a la Mark Hamill.

I think that Gustaffson would be an interesting matchup, although how good a matchup would depend critically on whether he has good takedown defense and whether or not he can fight off his back.

Anderson Silva would beat Jones in a standup war - there is no doubt in my mind there. Silva has more power, better setups, and a huge arsenal. However, it's not a kickboxing match. It's MMA, and Anderson Silva has shown, time after time, that he is susceptible to the takedown, and is not particularly effective off his back, nor particularly good in getting back to his feet (maybe he ought to be taking more lessons from his buddy, Lyoto, who is good at getting back to his feet, and has good takedown defense, and practicing more with Mark Munoz). And unlike in his fight against Chael Sonnen, who apparently hits like a 5 year old girl in his GnP, he would get finished by Jones on the ground.
post #5177 of 5436
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Anderson Silva would beat Jones in a standup war - there is no doubt in my mind there. Silva has more power, better setups, and a huge arsenal. However, it's not a kickboxing match. It's MMA, and Anderson Silva has shown, time after time, that he is susceptible to the takedown, and is not particularly effective off his back, nor particularly good in getting back to his feet (maybe he ought to be taking more lessons from his buddy, Lyoto, who is good at getting back to his feet, and has good takedown defense, and practicing more with Mark Munoz). And unlike in his fight against Chael Sonnen, who apparently hits like a 5 year old girl in his GnP, he would get finished by Jones on the ground.

This is exactly how I see a Silva-Jones fight going down, which is why I don't want to see it. I think Silva is better off his back than you're giving him credit for; he submitted BJJ BB Travis Lutter off his back in addition to Sonnen. The problem is that Jones' reach renders the guard completely useless. He broke Brandon Vera's orbital bone with a nasty elbow.
post #5178 of 5436
Silvia's bjj is much better than people give him credit for. I believe silva could pick a part jones standing up no doubt . I also think silva is intelligent enough to dictate the fight and that could frustrate jones. If jones was tense fighting rashad how do you think he will be against silva?
post #5179 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

This is exactly how I see a Silva-Jones fight going down, which is why I don't want to see it. I think Silva is better off his back than you're giving him credit for; he submitted BJJ BB Travis Lutter off his back in addition to Sonnen. The problem is that Jones' reach renders the guard completely useless. He broke Brandon Vera's orbital bone with a nasty elbow.

Travis Lutter did not tap so much to the submission (which he was defending effectively) as to vicious elbows to the head. Sonnen has been submitted more times than an masochist wearing a gimp mask, and it took nearly 25 minutes for Silva to do it. Anderson Silva's BJJ is good, no doubt, but he is not particularly active with his hip escapes and scrambles compared to many others.

I think that Silva could not dictate where the fight when if he went up against Jones. He's been taken down by every good wrestler he's fought, and Jones is terrific. He (Jones) was tentative against Rashad because Rashad can't easily be taken down and kept on the ground. Same deal with Machida. Anderson Silva is much easier to take down than either one of those guys.
post #5180 of 5436
....I got an idea, why not have Tim Slyvia fight Shane Del Rosario.
post #5181 of 5436
Damn Diaz...Damn!!! At least he wasn't as much of a jerk after the win.
post #5182 of 5436
Is Nate Diaz Brian Damaged?
He can't complete a sentence.
but he can submit almost any of his opponents at random
post #5183 of 5436
I believe he has some speech disorder and severe social anxiety. also lol at slopho always counting out the diaz bros.
post #5184 of 5436
i think fox should hire him and nick as commentators.
post #5185 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Shirtmaven View Post

Is Nate Diaz Brian Damaged?
He can't complete a sentence.
but he can submit almost any of his opponents at random

some sort of jiu-jitsu savant possibly or too much of that cali bud
post #5186 of 5436
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Originally Posted by Lendo View Post

some sort of jiu-jitsu savant possibly or too much of that cali bud

I've met him at a sort of MMA fighters soiree lol. I think that both he and his brother suffer from severe social anxiety, and probably were developmentally a little slow, which explains both a lot of the stories about their childhood and their extreme loyalty. It would be "fun" to spar hard with either one of those guys, though I have no illusions that my face would look like anything other than a mashed pie, and that I'd end up woken up by my training partners.
post #5187 of 5436
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I've met him at a sort of MMA fighters soiree lol. I think that both he and his brother suffer from severe social anxiety, and probably were developmentally a little slow, which explains both a lot of the stories about their childhood and their extreme loyalty. It would be "fun" to spar hard with either one of those guys, though I have no illusions that my face would look like anything other than a mashed pie, and that I'd end up woken up by my training partners.

This made me well up a little bit.
post #5188 of 5436
The entire card was fantastic for once, I was on the edge of my seat for every fight. Alan Belcher is a fucking beast, as is Diaz.
post #5189 of 5436
The previous card was fantastic indeed!! Diaz is really a beast in the cage:)
How do you feel about May 15? I find this card not less attractive!biggrin.gif
post #5190 of 5436
Anyone catch the UFC card last night? I missed it, but I heard Korean Zombie put on a show.
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