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It also might look a lot worse and more intentional in slow motion. I think a lot of times Jake was trying to get some sort of clinch game going so he could try to get it to the mat. I think he was waving his hands at GSP's head in a vain and half-assed attempt to grab it.

Ben Henderson vs. Jim Miller is confirmed. Although not really the fight I'd like to see. I like Miller in this fight, but I swear the brass must hate Miller because they just won't give him a top tier fight. He honestly is the 3rd best LW IMO and should fight Melendez.

they're not going to start doing cross-promotional yet, it makes senses that he's fighting bendo who is no slouch...

Yeah, Ben Henderson is no joke. I'd actually like to see Jim Miller up against Cerrone. Cerrone didn't looks terrific in his first UFC outing, but this seems to be the norm. The different size and geometry of the cage, etc...

The angel wings on bendo's back makes him rage

So I was watching the Steven Seagal trains Anderson Silva video, and saw where Seagal did a submission move on Silva's nose that looked pretty damn effective. It was pretty much a rear naked, except instead of putting your forearm on their throat you pull back on their nose. Just curious, has anyone ever seen this used in any mma fight?

maybe not legal?

One of the first things they teach you about clinching is not to zombie arm it as its a good way to great dropped, Since jake is a acclaimed grappler he has no reason to be reaching like that if hes trying to clinch up.

I go on a mma board every once and a while and even the respected and knowledgeable coaches who post on there largely say those vids and gifs and pictures are far too incriminating. Especially the down turned thumb punch.

kind of like this


I don't think i've seen any tap form it in mma.Kind of like the can opener in that it hurts but doesnt make people quit that often.

Not in mma, but i've seen it done in bjj competitions. That, or a face crack when you can't get the rnc. Hurts like hell, but not sure how effective it'd be in a mma setting.

Holy fuck, Lesnar's diverticulitis has flared up, he's out of UFC 131 and now it's CARWIN VS JDS! edit: sorry Lesnar, hope you get better but we knew JDS was gonna tool you and this fight rocks!

It works in MMA too. Actually, I think that the last incarnation was in the last Ultimate Fighter finale, done in a guillotine choke by that guy from Spokane against that English guy. He didn't have the neck, just had the jaw. Specialists can break your jaw just from the force of their squeeze, no joke. It happens at the Abudabi tournaments regularly too. Think about it, these guys practice squeezing with their arms all day. And the average MMA fighter does not have anywhere close to the amount of experience in fighting off submissions that pure BJJ and submission wrestlers have.

I'm not even a particularly good BJJ guy, and I've tapped guys out just by squeezing on the jaw. It's definitely a strength move. Another effective move that is legal in MMA, but not in BJJ or most submission grappling tournaments, is the neck crank, from either a guillotine or RNC position. Actually, I demonstrated how fast the guillotine version is on an SF member when j and I were in SF working on the new system. Once you've forced the neck into position (or tricked the guy into the position), the tap comes nearly immediately.

I'm going to give this to JDS if he can keep it on the feet and/or get up fast. Shane Carwin is a monster, but as we saw in his last fight, he is not particularly disciplined, and doesn't have a gas tank. JDS is a much better striker than anyone Carwin has fought before, much more of a disciplined striker (he is not going to go a charging forward a la Gabriel Gonzaga, and one with huge power in his hands to boot. Shane's chance is going to come in round 1, either by way of enormous haymaker (i.e. puncher's chance) or if he manages to GnP JDS to a TKO, which seems unlikely.

Of course, if Greg Jackson has somehow figured out how to make Shane Carwin into a smart fighter, as well as a powerful one, then all bets are off.

And yet, you see Royce Gracie do pretty much exactly that all of the time. Just because you are a good grappler doesn't mean that you don't get clubbed. He also leaves himself open toe the arm drag, but seriously, would Jake Shields be afraid of GSP armdragging him? Jake has a pretty decent single leg, apparently, but I think that he was getting pretty frustrated, which often leads to mistakes.

Dam Brock is out....I'm a big fan but a realistic fan of his. He was probably going to knocked out by Dos Santos in the 2nd round. I hope he gets back to form...really want to see what he can do when he gets all of the skills together. Anyhow..if Jackson is behind Carwin's corner and he taught him how to fight smart...I have Carwin by the end of 2nd.